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Re: Announcing Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera

PostThu Sep 26, 2013 1:21 pm

just got mine!

now i need to get a lens.

and according to the software a better sd card. :-|
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Re: Announcing Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera

PostFri Oct 11, 2013 10:33 pm

Well, you are a Lucky guy. Almost day one preorder in Switzerland and I have nothing. And I read thats in stock and a lot of lambda people can just go and buy one directely in good stores. Thansk a lot black magic. You forgot to respect customer and to respect communication...
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Re: Announcing Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera

PostWed Oct 16, 2013 6:18 am

The last few weeks B&H NY said it will take 2-4 months to ship the BMPCC, now the website says "This item is backordered by the manufacturer. Order now and we'll deliver when available."

I talked to someone from Blackmagic last week and she told me that they are shipping in good numbers to the reseller partners. I find this statement a little conflicting...

So what's going on here? I don't want to wait until next year :(
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Re: Announcing Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera

PostWed Oct 16, 2013 6:27 am

Being backordered doesn't mean you aren't shipping.
Just that there are pending orders that can't be shipped just yet.

CVP said my order from 2013-04-08 18:38 CET is now in stock.
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Re: Announcing Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera

PostWed Oct 16, 2013 7:11 am

You're absolutely right. I was just wondering why B&H has nothing in stock while Blackmagic is shipping big quantities now.

They set the shipping on 2-4 months when Blackmagic wasn't shipping in good numbers.
And now they say that even less items are in stock, while Blackmagic ships more of them.

I don't quite understand it. And a little more transparency would be great...

Sorry I'm a little confused about the date you gave me. Does that mean 4th of August?
I ordered mine on 8th August, and it's still out of stock... Maybe I should have ordered in Europe too... But the prices are always lower in the US. I live in Switzerland.
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Re: Announcing Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera

PostWed Oct 16, 2013 9:45 am

sierra2011 wrote:You're absolutely right. I was just wondering why B&H has nothing in stock while Blackmagic is shipping big quantities now.

They set the shipping on 2-4 months when Blackmagic wasn't shipping in good numbers.
And now they say that even less items are in stock, while Blackmagic ships more of them.

I don't quite understand it. And a little more transparency would be great...

Sorry I'm a little confused about the date you gave me. Does that mean 4th of August?
I ordered mine on 8th August, and it's still out of stock... Maybe I should have ordered in Europe too... But the prices are always lower in the US. I live in Switzerland.


ISO 8601
April the 8th.
If it where a US-Date it would be written in this insane 04/08/2013 format.
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Re: Announcing Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera

PostWed Oct 16, 2013 2:15 pm

Oh... well then... I think I have to wait a couple more weeks :|

I'd be okay with that if Blackmagic gave us some more information about how it is going with production and shipping...
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Re: Announcing Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera

PostThu Oct 17, 2013 9:17 am

Hey Sierra, where did you preorder it? BH?

I'm in Switzerland too and I preordered in May in NextWay! And still nothing... But few days ago, PBS-video had stock! I can't follow how the BMPCC are distributed in Europe or in stores...

Someone could explain? :?

By the way Sierra, you will pay Swiss taxes right?
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Re: Announcing Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera

PostThu Oct 17, 2013 11:12 am

Hey Tatum

Yes, I placed my preorder on 9th August at B&H.
I know, none of the stores here have it in stock. I assume you are "Suisse Romande" if you order from NextWay and talk about PBS? Seems like PBS has better availability than most other stores... I don't get it either.

Taxes? If you want to ask if I'm going to pay duty on the BMPCC, yes I guess, but never thought about it... Probably still cheaper than buying one in Switzerland.
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Re: Announcing Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera

PostThu Oct 17, 2013 11:21 am

Okay, I think you did the good choice for B&H. Because yes, I'm in "Suisse ROoomande" (sorry for the accent I'm not Swiss haha). And I think I'll buy in PBS (hors taxes) and ask to apply only Swiss duty. Maybe more expansive than US but faster.

By the way I think in Switerland, you pay only 100 extra$, considering you have to pay shipping cost + swiss duty when you buy it in US + only US garanty (I think?).

Anyway, that's not solving the problem : still angry with this lack of communication. And no respect for pre-orders...
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Re: Announcing Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera

PostThu Oct 17, 2013 11:41 am

This is not my native language either ;)

Yeah you're probably on a better way with PBS. But wait until they confirm the order and the delivery date, could be that NextWay is faster anyway... And in the end you pay twice :-/

I don't know how high the costs are for importing the camera, but you're right, I'm gonna pay the same amount probably...

All I know is that I'm sick of waiting... And all I want is a little statement from Blackmagic.
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Re: Announcing Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera

PostThu Oct 17, 2013 1:09 pm

You are right... But I feel so helplessness... Maybe like thousand of customers.
Again, I'm waiting like you a serious statement from Blackmagic, not just playing ghost. :roll:
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Re: Announcing Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera

PostFri Oct 18, 2013 5:52 pm

My pocket camera is shipping today! So stoked... been waiting months.

Now to get lenses, extra batteries, better memory cards, and all the other things i will need.

CAN'T WAIT TO START SHOOTING!!!!

Anyone know when the SLR Magic 12mm Cine lens is going to be available again?
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Re: Announcing Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera

PostSat Oct 19, 2013 9:32 am

Good for you man...

When did you order?
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Re: Announcing Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera

PostSat Oct 19, 2013 1:41 pm

Hello Christine Peterson, are you here with me, with us?

I have a simple question. I found out the black magic world only one-two month(s) ago. I'm selling my VOIGTLANDER 17,5mm f0.95 because i want the BMPCC but its crop factor is simply too much, and i need i wider lens (maybe a 12mm to have a 35mm equivalent, just the right way. Yeah, for me 50mm is simply too much). I red about 995$ to have the pocket, and just said to me: Ok, i take it, even its sensor is 1" (there are no plans to update it, right? Maybe a m43 sensor? Cause if it is so, i just don't sell my perfect lens).

Anyway, i'm in Italy, and DON'T FIND A SINGLE BMPCC that cost me 995$! Ok, the tax, ok the vat, ok everything. But VAT IS EVERYWHERE, in every country, which more, which less. Here in Italy, price rise up to 950 EURO. NOT MY 730 EURO. UP TO 1000 euro, pratically. And then, you want to make this FANTASTIC "announcing blackmagic pocket cinema camera" for YOUR 995$?

Is it possible you don't have an office from where to ship the BMPCC? From Australia, from where you want, just to declare a lower value in the package, for this ABSURD rising of the price and for the huge custom tax? Is it possible there's such this situation?

I don't know if i'm in mistake, or this situation is "normal"..

Now that problems are solved, i would like to have my bmpcc with its firmware updated and recalibrated sensor.
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Re: Announcing Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera

PostSat Oct 19, 2013 9:58 pm

Hello Renovatio. Welcome in real world.

By the way, why do you sell the 17mm ? In fact anyway, just give me your price and I buy it haha
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Re: Announcing Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera

PostSat Oct 19, 2013 10:38 pm

Tatum wrote:Hello Renovatio. Welcome in real world.

By the way, why do you sell the 17mm ? In fact anyway, just give me your price and I buy it haha

I don't know where you are, but, anyway, you can read here all on:

personal view -> /talks/discussion/8469/fs-ue-olympus-o-md-e-m5-nokton-175mm-f0.95

Nokton for 830-840 euro.

Simply 50mm is too much for me.
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Re: Announcing Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera

PostFri Oct 25, 2013 12:08 am

Just got mine today. So stoked!

I ordered months ago from B&H but finally gave up on it, canceled my order when i heard a little computer store in Milwaukee had them coming in each week with a tiny pre-order list. 10 days later i have mine!

Big thanks to Safe Harbor Computers!

Can't wait to get shooting with my new cam!
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Re: Announcing Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera

PostFri Oct 25, 2013 5:37 am

Good for you :)

Well I guess the pre-order list won't be tiny anymore after this post... :P
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Re: Announcing Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera

PostSat Oct 26, 2013 11:59 am

And for Europe, Black Magic don't give a f*ck :D
Let's cancel our order and wait for BMPCC v.2 announcement in few month.
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Re: Announcing Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera

PostMon Oct 28, 2013 6:25 am

Did I miss something or was that a joke? Does Blackmagic plan to release a v2 soon?
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Re: Announcing Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera

PostMon Oct 28, 2013 12:18 pm

Oh, that's just a joke, don't worry.
Just to remember to price drop and a new announcement each year. You know "Oh! the BMC 2.5K with m4/3 mount", "Oh, the 4K", "Oh a future active m4/3 mount", "Oh a pocket camera"... I would not be surprised by a "NEW and fantastic announcement from BlackMagic".
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Re: Announcing Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera

PostTue Oct 29, 2013 8:55 am

Oh, all right :)

I've cancelled my order yesterday... I think I'll wait until the BMPCC is on the market for a while, so the little mistakes and errors in V.1 can be eliminated. The availability will probably get better too...

I'm going to get myself a DSLR instead. A Canon T5i (700D) or a 60D maybe...

But I'm definitely going to buy a Blackmagic Camera in the future :)
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Re: Announcing Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera

PostTue Oct 29, 2013 9:11 am

I think you're totally right.

I'm still waiting for a last hope (an answer from BMC in UK). If no news, I cancel friday my pre-order. Like all my colleagues in Switzerland I think.

I'll invest in some nice lens I think. I have still my panasonic GH2.

By the way, I ask to the Swiss distributor, there is his answer :

"Hi Alexandre,

unfortunately we cannot give you any concrete information as to when you
can expect to receive your camera - we simply do not know quantities and
dates of camera shipments to us.

Please also be aware that on the web, speculations and opinions about
everything related to this subject tend to take on a life of their own,
and are not necessarily based on facts.

I`m afraid the only option we all have is to patiently wait.
Sorry for the inconvenience.

Best regards,
Gerhard Buchner"

The Joke... :roll:
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Re: Announcing Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera

PostWed Oct 30, 2013 7:22 am

A nice lens is always a good investment :)

The answer from the distributor is not really deep... Apparently they don't know what's going on either... :-/

I think I'm going to buy a Canon 70D, we'll see if it's worth the price... :)
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Re: Announcing Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera

PostWed Oct 30, 2013 9:14 am

Héhé not bad!

Just for the fun, the last answer for the same question, but from BMC in UK (sending camera to resellers)

"Hi Alexandre

Thank you for your email.

We have started to ship the Pocket Cinema Camera in much bigger quantities but as you can imagine we are still fulfilling the large number of back orders for this product. We are distributing these evenly to our resellers across Europe and while we have seen the number increase over the recent months I can not guarantee an exact shipping date for you.

If you have any further queries do not hesitate to contact me.

Best Regards

Matt"

Deep.

I hope you'll enjoy this new camera :D
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Re: Announcing Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera

PostFri Nov 01, 2013 6:24 am

Well... the depth of this answer is too damn high...

Have you already canceled your order?

My Canon 70D is ordered :) Should arrive today or Monday :)
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Re: Announcing Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera

PostSun Nov 03, 2013 10:14 am

Ordered mine on April 9th 2013, with cvp.com in UK

As yet, I have had no information regarding its shipping status.

Their website states Nov 30th. But I would imagine that is for new customers. My feelings are that Pre-order folks have paid for the entitlement to be kept in the loop.

I run my own company, I don't see the harm in posting regular updates even if it is to notify of delays. Transparency is key to keeping clients.
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Re: Announcing Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera

PostSun Nov 03, 2013 7:27 pm

pew36 wrote:Ordered mine on April 9th 2013, with cvp.com in UK

As yet, I have had no information regarding its shipping status.


My CVP order from 2013-04-08 was shipped on 2013-10-17.
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Re: Announcing Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera

PostMon Nov 04, 2013 9:00 am

MarcusWolschon : And did you receive it?
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Re: Announcing Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera

PostMon Nov 04, 2013 9:06 am

Tatum wrote:MarcusWolschon : And did you receive it?

Of cause. 3 weeks ago.
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Re: Announcing Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera

PostMon Nov 04, 2013 2:53 pm

Christine Peterson wrote:Blackmagic Design today announced Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera, a beautifully designed, pocket sized digital cinema camera that includes powerful features such as Super 16mm sized 1080HD sensor, super wide 13 stops of dynamic range, built in SD card recorder for Apple ProRes, lossless compressed CinemaDNG RAW capture and active Micro Four Thirds lens mount, all in an attractive compact design for only US$995.

Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera will be demonstrated on the Blackmagic Design NAB 2013 booth at #SL218.

To learn more, please visit: http://www.blackmagicdesign.com/press/p ... seID=38108

lossless compressed CinemaDNG RAW capture
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Re: Announcing Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera

PostMon Nov 04, 2013 7:56 pm

I ordered mine on the day it was announced through CVP. It arrived last Thursday. All I can say is hang in there. It's worth the wait. I recognise all the cameras faults, no levels, no histogram, no remaining media indication etc etc. I don't mind the battery situation. It keeps it small and portable. It shoots a beautiful image - on another level to a non hacked DSLR. (I would never use the RAW hack on a job). I have two lenses for it - the Lumix Panasonic 12-35 2.8 and the Olympus 60mm 2.8 Macro. So impressed by these but will probably add at some stage the Voigtlander Noktons. Oh and I've added the Viewfactor cage which is an equally superb piece of kit. Here is a bit of footage shot the afternoon it came and hastily put together and graded in FCPX. All of it shot at a 144 degree shutter and mostly wide open and hand held.
http://iainphilpott.smugmug.com/Beauty/IJP/9749791_WTRSVn#!i=2876556669&k=7zFbtbx

It's going to be fun learning how this camera ticks and how to get the best out of it. My only regret is I didn't order two of them.
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Re: Announcing Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera

PostMon Nov 04, 2013 8:00 pm

Out of curiosity, what are you using the cage for?
Protection? Mounting stuff? Mounting rails?
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Re: Announcing Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera

PostTue Nov 05, 2013 9:17 am

MarcusWolschon wrote:Out of curiosity, what are you using the cage for?
Protection? Mounting stuff? Mounting rails?


It's all of those things really. In the studio to mount things, handheld it just gives you more to grip if not using a shoulder rig or something, and then, aside from my fashion/beauty work, I shoot marine stuff that I'm being thrown around in a RIB so offers a lot of protection.
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Re: Announcing Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera

PostTue Nov 05, 2013 9:39 am

Does anybody know when Blackmagic announce RAW CinemaDNG format support?

I have one BMPCC and even on box there is information about support for that format.
It isn't fair advertise that product as camera with ProRes and RAW.
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Re: Announcing Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera

PostTue Nov 05, 2013 5:25 pm

I just spoke to cvp.com

They are processing orders based on the time stamp and they are currently fulfilling orders placed up to 8pm on April 8th. They told me they have 90+ orders between where they are now and where I am on the list (approx 6pm on the 9th).

The orders are being filled at a rate of 7 per week.

That is what I consider to be very clear and transparent information from a supplier.

Still, I can get the camera elsewhere if I want, but cvp have earned my patience through being so helpful just now.
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Re: Announcing Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera

PostTue Nov 05, 2013 5:27 pm

The only thing that risks me cancelling the order is how much fun I am having with my slr with magic lantern
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Re: Announcing Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera

PostWed Nov 06, 2013 1:53 pm

Hi,

I had a similar information today!

Distributor are still waiting for 80 BMPCC before I have a chance to be in the good "pool" to get mine.
So, I think I'll just cancel! And forget BlackMagic!

Have still a lot a fun with my GH2!
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Re: Announcing Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera

PostWed Nov 06, 2013 4:07 pm

I ordered mine last week and received it the very next day. I'm thinking if you pre-ordered and you're still waiting, maybe you're better off seeking a reseller internationally that's willing to ship the product overseas.
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Re: Announcing Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera

PostFri Nov 15, 2013 10:04 pm

So RAW has arrived……..So looking forward to it……..So shot all RAW today……imported in to Resolve 10 Lite……..Now the 5th time its reached a point and just 'hung' because of a dropped frame……And people wonder why Sony don't go out of business????????? For all the advantages of RAW??????? Not worth it till the bugs are sorted…..going back to ProRes.
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Re: Announcing Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera

PostFri Nov 15, 2013 10:25 pm

And it's written the first clip to where it's supposed to be then every subsequent clip to I don't know where. It's certainly not in the folder that the first one is. It's not on the external drive that it was supposed to be writing to and it certainly is not on the computer…….86% of 61gb is somewhere - I just don't know where? Nothing comes up in a search. This really sucks.
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Re: Announcing Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera

PostSat Nov 16, 2013 6:27 am

Iain Philpott wrote:And it's written the first clip to where it's supposed to be then every subsequent clip to I don't know where. It's certainly not in the folder that the first one is. It's not on the external drive that it was supposed to be writing to and it certainly is not on the computer…….86% of 61gb is somewhere - I just don't know where? Nothing comes up in a search. This really sucks.


What type of memory card are you using?
I haven't experienced a single dropped frame in RAW so far.
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Re: Announcing Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera

PostTue Dec 17, 2013 9:01 pm

HAZZAH!

My pocket of black magic arrived today

perfect timing too...i have to shoot something this week......just need a lens for it
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Re: Announcing Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera

PostMon Oct 13, 2014 3:52 am

With all the great recent updates for Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera, it would be great to add:
a) Black and White shooting option.
b) 21:9 frame option.
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Re: Announcing Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera

PostThu Nov 27, 2014 2:31 am

I feel the battery die fast. Now I bring two more in case.
How do you all deal with this?
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Re: Announcing Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera

PostFri Nov 28, 2014 6:00 am

Another wise thing, in my opinion, would be good quality microphone system on board, something like zoom H4 type and quality. I don't think any camera maker decided to go that way yet.
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Re: Announcing Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera

PostThu Nov 15, 2018 9:54 pm

I just got off with customer service for the 2nd time and can confirm that Black Magic will not be manufacturing more cameras because of the holiday season. This is incredibly worrying as another user stated that B&H was scheduled for a shipment last week and they received 3... 3 cameras. Think about that. Not 300, not 30... 3. The sales rep told me the production for the camera will not change. He 'assured' me that they are sending out large quantities of cameras (I'm not too sure I believe this). I ordered my camera in October and was hoping to receive it at the very latest a month after, but I'm almost loosing all hope I'll even get it in February of next year. This is absolutely ridiculous. How could Black Magic not have prepared for something like this? Obviously people want to buy the camera, so why stunt your sales and production by only shipping out literally 3 cameras to each reseller. It's a shame this camera has received so much attention and become a favorite among 'youtubers'. I was on the hype train too... but it's honestly a joke. I may move away from Black Magic entirely and go with the Canon cinema lineup.
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Re: Announcing Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera

PostThu Nov 15, 2018 11:15 pm

First off, this is thread is in regards to the Pocket Cinema Camera. Not the Pocket Cinema Camera 4K.

Secondly, manufacturing goals would not be changing due to holiday shipments. These are being shipped out as quickly as possible to distributors and from there, to the resellers to fulfill orders in the order they received them.

Last thing to bring up here is that ordering this in October will most likely push you farther down the list as this camera has had orders from resellers since April. you may want to look in the Cinematography section to see what people are getting as far as shipments. Also, locking this thread as this in no longer a relevant thread.
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