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RED Hydrogen One

PostFri Nov 02, 2018 11:58 pm

My prediction seems to be correct:

https://www.dpreview.com/articles/19064 ... drogen-one

+ other websites with same 1st impressions. RED blew so much money on this.
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PostSat Nov 03, 2018 1:01 am

There is probaly reasons they did that, but now it looks they build it around the 3D (4V) idea that is not well taken by the reviews.

"RED level" phone camera and accessory cable to use it as low latency, exelent screen monitor with standard interfaces to be used also with other than RED cameras and I could have been interested. Now it seems by the reviews that both cameras and screen are disapointing and no accessories for the extension connector.
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Re: RED ONE

PostSat Nov 03, 2018 3:51 am

I really was hoping good things for Hydrogen One. But the truth is, I was expecting it to be a disappointing gimmick. From the looks of things, it's failed to live up to the hype around the 3D capabilities.

For RED camera users, this may be a really useful tool in the RED ecosystem. For the rest of us... meeeh.
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Re: RED ONE

PostSat Nov 03, 2018 3:51 am

Andrew, can you change the thread title to RED Hydrogen One? RED One was their first cinema camera, no?


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Re: RED ONE

PostSat Nov 03, 2018 7:16 am

rick.lang wrote:Andrew, can you change the thread title to RED Hydrogen One? RED One was their first cinema camera, no?


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I was wondering why that camera has it's own post in 2018 on BM forums and got intrigued.
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Re: RED ONE

PostSat Nov 03, 2018 10:11 pm

rick.lang wrote:Andrew, can you change the thread title to RED Hydrogen One? RED One was their first cinema camera, no?


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Re: RED Hydrogen One

PostSat Nov 03, 2018 10:45 pm

Thank you, Andrew.


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Re: RED Hydrogen One

PostSun Nov 04, 2018 3:17 am

As expected. Hopefully I can stop hearing about this now, unless they find a way to make it actually useful with a RED rig.
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Re: RED Hydrogen One

PostMon Nov 05, 2018 5:08 pm

Having been using a Hydrogen One for the past week, and showing it to several people, the response has been VERY different. The standard 2D image quality is good straight out of the camera, the hologram view gets most people who see it giddy with excitement (there is a caveat -- it's pretty disorienting if you view it from outside the optimal viewing angle, which in hologram mode is pretty narrow), and more professional oriented features are coming soon to Red's camera app.

And... a LOT of people who have Hydrogen Ones aren't Red camera owners. Not everyone is happy with them, but most are.

And most of the reviews so far are based on early alpha and beta firmware, focus on the specs (Snapdragon 835 instead of 845) rather than on actual usage (the primary improvement in the 845 was in power efficiency and graphics, but Unreal based games look great and are buttery smooth on it)...

One bozo actually though it was going to be a holograph projector like in Star Wars... even though it was obvious to everyone who was paying attention that was not the case... Seriously, that's like criticizing the Pocket 4K for not being an 8K camera, the complaining that it "only" has 13 stops of dynamic range but not bothering to shoot anything with it, yet criticizing the image quality.

And this is what passes for reviewers these days?

That said, the H4V stuff, as cool as it is, isn't all that useful right now, because it requires a Leia-equipped device to view it, and there's only one of those available... and it's expensive and rare, and doesn't photograph all that well, since the 3D effect requires stereo vision to work.

I don't know whether or not it works with VR goggles. If so, it would at least expand the potential viewership to include people with VR googles. If not, it's chicken and egg time...
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Re: RED Hydrogen One

PostMon Nov 05, 2018 5:47 pm

I have lately been seeing in Facebook some 3d images that work on 2d, the effect comes when moving mouse over the image, it changes the viewing angle. It is kind of gimick but works and is somewhat interesting. They should implement that at least.
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PostMon Nov 05, 2018 6:07 pm

One of the Hydrogen team members mentioned that Facebook support is in the works. It might be what you just described, but since I was busy moving over the weekend, I didn't keep up with the forums. :)
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