panasonic camcorder 1080i stream not getting to shuttle

I returned a Canon camcorder that would not output 1080i and exchanged for a cheaper Panasonic HC-V110 that does output 1080i, but still I'm not getting any signal into or out of the shuttle.
I've tried Media Express, Flash Media Live Encoder, and Wirecast. The shuttle will not connect this camera, but it will work with an old Sony Bloggie. What is required to set this shuttle up for a Panasonic HC-V110 camcorder?

From seeing a lot of posts like this (i mean a WHOLE ton of them) there are a couple of common things to look for.

1) The settings for the black magic capture device are not correct. e.g. the correct settings are not selected appropriately within a) the Blackmagic Design Control Panel and/or b) Media Express.

and/or

2) The camera is not outputting the EXPECTED video format via HDMI

for 1)... please post screenshots of the all the settings you have selected.

for 2)... it helps to be able to CONFIRM the camera is outputting what you expect. That can usually be accomplished by connecting it to a TV/Monitor. Many of them will display the video format/frame rate etc either when you connect the camera - or if you press the INFO button (or something like that).

I'm running on Mac mini, per following screen shots.

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Great. Looks good there...as long as the camera is <REALLY> providing that input signal.

Have you been able to 100% verify that is the signal being provided?

Also... have you checked in Media Express (although not really any reason why FMLE would not see the camera signal either)?

EDIT (IMPORTANT): Just noticed your FMLE input settings are a little odd. You have it set for 320x240 and 20fps? That's of course NOT what it should be. Have you tried changing it to what the input ACTUALLY is?

Try it in Media Express.. that at least will remove any oddities that FMLE might be adding to the mix.

Just checking you noticed my edits to my reply. Might be FMLE settings that are off

Thanks very much for your posts, Liam. We are getting there. I have a picture now in FMLE. The aspect ratio is off, but I can't find in the camera setting yet what it is actually doing.

Glad to hear you are making progress.

On the aspect ratio issues - your original FMLE settings were 320x240 which is 4x3 ratio... but your camera source is giving you 16x9 ratio. If you are trying to have FMLE output 4x3 ratio.. that is your problem. You need to use an output format that matches the 16x9 ratio of the input. E.g. 480x270 , 640x360 etc etc. If you truly want to have a 4x3 ratio output then you'll need to use something like Wirecast rather than FMLE which can crop the input to the desired output ratio.

Things were going swell and it ran for several hours last night. Today, I started FMLE and streaming abruptly stops and restarts. Audio isn't working properly now.

Try Wirecast (you mentioned you have that too?). I prefer to use that over FMLE in any case. At least that will give you an alternative to see if the issue is just with FMLE.

Did you fix the aspect ratio issues?

I haven't been able to get this camera to work with Wirecast. I only have the trial version and don't know how to configure the options FMLE shows in the UI. I guess there is some xml format for doing it.
I've used several aspect ratios proportionate to 16/9 and they work fine in FMLE.
I found one problem with the audio settings. The volume was set to the maximum, which explained the loud feedback hiss that I was getting in the player clients, but fixing the noise didn't fix the abrupt shut-down and restarts.
Now I'm also having problems with the camera and am going to have to return for an exchange. It gets into a state where you can't turn it on without removing the battery. It also won't take a charge.
This isn't the only thing on my agenda today, so it's going to take some time to resolve.

FMLE hits an error in stream from Blackmagic Shuttle. Stops and restarts per the following log. If I switch off the audio it runs fine.

Tue Oct 08 2013 06:39:18 : Selected video input device: Blackmagic HD 1080i 59.94 - 10 Bit
Tue Oct 08 2013 06:39:18 : Selected audio input device: Blackmagic Audio
Tue Oct 08 2013 06:39:45 : Primary - Connected to FMS/3,5,7,7009
Tue Oct 08 2013 06:39:46 : Primary - Network Command: onFCPublish
Tue Oct 08 2013 06:39:46 : Primary - Stream[myStream] Status: Success
Tue Oct 08 2013 06:39:47 : Primary - Stream[myStream] Status: NetStream.Publish.Start
Tue Oct 08 2013 06:39:47 : Session Started
Tue Oct 08 2013 06:39:47 : Video Encoding Started
Tue Oct 08 2013 06:39:47 : Audio Encoding Started
Tue Oct 08 2013 06:40:18 : Unexpected error encountered in encoding process.
Tue Oct 08 2013 06:40:18 : Audio Encoding Stopped
Tue Oct 08 2013 06:40:18 : Video Encoding Stopped
Tue Oct 08 2013 06:40:18 : Session Stopped
Tue Oct 08 2013 06:40:20 : Primary - Network Command: onFCUnpublish
Tue Oct 08 2013 06:40:20 : Primary - Stream[myStream] Status: NetStream.Unpublish.Success
Tue Oct 08 2013 06:40:20 : Primary - Network Status: NetConnection.Connect.Closed status
Tue Oct 08 2013 06:40:20 : Primary - Disconnected
Tue Oct 08 2013 06:40:34 : Primary - Connected to FMS/3,5,7,7009
Tue Oct 08 2013 06:40:35 : Primary - Network Command: onFCPublish
Tue Oct 08 2013 06:40:35 : Primary - Stream[myStream] Status: Success
Tue Oct 08 2013 06:40:35 : Primary - Stream[myStream] Status: NetStream.Publish.Start
Tue Oct 08 2013 06:40:35 : Session Started
Tue Oct 08 2013 06:40:35 : Video Encoding Started
Tue Oct 08 2013 06:40:36 : Audio Encoding Started
Tue Oct 08 2013 06:40:36 : Audio Encoding Stopped
Tue Oct 08 2013 06:40:36 : Video Encoding Stopped
Tue Oct 08 2013 06:40:36 : Session Stopped
Tue Oct 08 2013 06:40:38 : Primary - Network Command: onFCUnpublish
Tue Oct 08 2013 06:40:38 : Primary - Stream[myStream] Status: NetStream.Unpublish.Success

Please post an image of your FMLE settings (without the RTMP stream point visible). It looks to me you have something wrong there and that may be why it crashes.

On Wirecast..just look in the broadcast settings - you will find equivalent settings there for all the flash formats you could want.

You configure the sources under the sources inspector.

There is a built in tutorial that will take you through the setup. It's very easy.

I have had situations where FMLE crashes but Wirecast works... So it may be worth your while spending an extra few minutes to get Wirecast working.

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I've also tried running with USB microphone and the same disconnect occurs. If I run without audio the video stream doesn't disconnect.
But I think the Blackmagic audio is not actually sending to the server. I don't hear any sound in client player unless I use USB microphone.

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I set up Wirecast with the Intensity Shuttle, and the video works, but audio is completely non-functional.

It seems now that the reason for the repeated disconnect and restart in Flash Live Media Encoder is that audio is not working in Intensity Shuttle.

The sample rate for the audio is odd. Change it to the 44 or 48Khz options (I'm running from memory). Also... humor me and change the Input video settings to match the actual video you have. (you currently have it at 20fps and 640x360).

Very good start! Thanks.
Changing the audio sample rate to 44100 and the fps to 30 has stopped the disconnects and restarts. But, I don't get any sound through the HDMI connection to Intensity Shuttle.
The only way I can get audio actually transmitted is to select a USB mic in FMLE and go around the Blackmagic HDMI audio.

Are you CERTAIN audio is coming FROM the camcorder? With my low-end camcorders they only push out audio via HDMI if you are playing back a clip from the camera. If you are just doing a live-view - they don't provide the audio.

That is real possibility. I don't know for sure because I took the camera I was using when I was getting audio back to the supplier. Now I'm using an old Sony Bloggie, and I can't remember if I tested for audio when I used it before. Quite likely you are right again, Liam.
I do get audio by USB mic to the MAC.
I'd like to use a mixer with several mics into the Intensity Shuttle audio-in jacks, and then from the Shuttle to the MAC line in. I have an old mixer that runs on a nine volt battery that can take four mic inputs, but I don't know what I need between the mixer and the Shuttle, or between the Shuttle and the MAC line in. Seems like I'll need an amp or mic preamps somewhere in there.

The issues in this post have been resolved, and I am very satisfied with the results: See related post: http://forum.blackmagicdesign.com/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=13667