ATEM 1m/e multi view issue

Has anyone ever had this happen?

I have three 1080 cameras all using 50' or less HDMI cables, plus a laptop with HDMI out to jump to for graphics/video.

I am using the four HDMI inputs on the back of the ATEM 1. Everything ran great. I had my main TV connected with HDMI and my multi-view connected to another TV with HDMI.

All dreamy.

Now the problem happens when I want to send the program out and the multi-view out from the other outputs. I need to send the source close to 100' away. When I use BNC cables I don't get any signal.

Any ideas?

are you aware that the bnc's are sdi?
and also if you are getting 50' hdmi to work you are lucks. dont be surprised if it isn't reliable

U can use HDMI extenders over CAT5 cables .. its cheap and working up to 60m .. Or use SDI cable , and SDI to HDMI converter at end ..

You know, I actually have the HDMI to CAT 5 extenders and I can not get this stupid blackmagic to send a signal across it.

Any ideas?

maybe U need test another HDMI to CAT5

I will try some different cables but I think it works straight out of the camera to the TV. Then when I hook the camera up to the ATEM and use the multiview out from HDMI to a TV, that works.

But when I have the camera on HDMI input 1 and I use the adapters to run out to the TV I get no signal.

Help?

Please explain very clearly what these "adaptors" are (make/model numbers) you are using to get the signal over to that TV. Just so you know - mostly the issue is not with "this stupid blackmagic" but with other things that are connecting with it.

ok, not stupid blackmagic. Finicky blackmagic.

Here is the link for the adapters I have

http://fosmon.com/hdmiextenderovercat5e ... ables.aspx

1 other question. Would something like this work to use my cameras wireless?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nyrius-ARIES-Wi ... 20d91d0698

that extenders are Extend HDMI Signal Up To 30m (98ft) .. im using for 60m .. it very differ from CAT cables .. use shielded .. and preffer CAT6 ..

that extender may work .. u need to test it ..

I tried it and it only works straight from the camera to the TV. When I try to send it from the ATEM to the TV I get no signal.

if U use it on 100' , then U are on limit ..

Actually I used it on 3 foot cat 5e cable. It works great for going from the camera to the TV, but the ATEM to the TV I get nothing.

You never mentioned what camera's you are using. Sometimes the HDMI signal will be adjusted by the camera depending on the EDID it reads from the device it is connected to.

When you have them connected via you adaptor to the TV's can you verify the format of the video? I suspect with those adaptors your camera is providing a different sgnal (possibly 1080p format instead of 1080i). On most TV's when you press the INFO button on the remote it will tell you the input video signals format.

If it is giving a 1080p signal you may have to use an EDID spoofing device to force your cameras to output the correct 1080i signal needed.

You never mentioned what camera's you are using. Sometimes the HDMI signal will be adjusted by the camera depending on the EDID it reads from the device it is connected to. When connected directly to the TVS it will receive the EDID information provided and it MAY correctly set it's output to match. When you have the adaptor "in the way" it will no longer receive the EDID info from the TVS

When you have them connected via you adaptor to the TV's can you verify the format of the video? I suspect with those adaptors your camera is providing a different sgnal (possibly 1080p format instead of 1080i). On most TV's when you press the INFO button on the remote it will tell you the input video signals format.

If it is giving a 1080p signal you may have to use an EDID spoofing device to force your cameras to output the correct 1080i signal needed.

Hmm. I am using Sony HDR-XR500v. I think you might be right that it is sending out at 1080p. The ATEM is 1080i at default I think. Is there a way to change it to 1080p?

With that said. Even with no camera connected I should still get the multi-view out screen on my TV with the HDMI to cat5e adapters shouldn't I?

There is no way to change the ATEM 1/ME to 1080p - that's only possible with the 4K models.

However - I think I may have misunderstood what your issue is. Is your issue purely with using those adaptors to convert HDMI to Cat5 and get your program/multiview sent 100ft away to another TV?

In the end the some HDMI to Cat5 extenders really just don't work all that well with the ATEM's. I have not heard of your model before... so I cannot tell what may be going on. There are many reports of HDMI to Cat5/6 adaptors that do work with the ATEM. You may need to search the ATEMUser.com web site to find the ones that people have found worked (although mostly I recall these being uses for camera INPUT - not for the multiview out).

why wouldn't you use the sdi multiview out and then convert to hdmi at the other end.
as i asked before 'are you clear on what sdi is?'
i can't fathom why you would even be trying hdmi over cat5/6 if there is an sdi multiview out.
i use a tvs everyday and i don't find it stupid or finnicky.

I don't have an SDI to HDMI converter. Most of the problems I am having is because I don't have all the "right" converters that the blackmagic uses.

well i am sure you could buy an sdi to hdmi converter for the same price as hdmi over cat 5.
sdi is a professional format connector. hdmi is a consumer one.
your hdmi over cat5 solution is just trying to work around the fact that hdmi is very limited.
all companies that make pro gear use sdi, so perhaps you should embrace the fact that it is there instead of ignoring it.
you could buy a cheap converter for 40bucks and be done with it.
(or you could keep complaining that hdmi over cat 5 doesn't work)
this is the 3rd time in this thread i have tried to steeer you to sdi. maybe soon you will stop blaming blackmagic gear and listen to some of the answers you have been provided.

Not blaming the gear. It is picky but it's cool stuff. I am trying to use what I have and the cameras I have without buying $300+ sdi converters to run the lines to the ATEM. If there is a $40 option, I have not found it. I would gladly buy something like that and fix the issue. What I can't do at the moment is spend over $300 for each camera to have an adapter. It's a budget thing.

try typing "sdi to hdmi" into ebay

So something like this to send the ATEM multi-view out over DSI then convert it to HDMI before it hits the TV?


http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-SDI-HD-SDI- ... 43bf8104d1