Intensity Pro 1080p/60fps?

Is this possible on this card? The only options I see are in the attached image.

If 60 isn't possible, I would be happy with 30 but I actually get no picture from any of the 1080p options when my Xbox One is set to 1080p.

I'm fairly sure this is because of how picky the drivers for BMIP are, in that they require absolute 100% accuracy in the settings and won't show anything unless you pick the exact resolution and framerate of the output - my guess is the output from the Xbox is 60fps (even in games which aren't 60) - but even when trying to set up BMIP when I am running a 1080p/60fps/30fps game, I still only get a black screen no matter what options I choose.

720p/60fps works great with this card, but I'm at a loss with 1080p.

Unfortunately not.
The Intensity Pro will record progressive input at a max of 1080p@30.
The new model, "Intensity Pro 4k" can record at 1080p@60.

Unfortunately not.
The Intensity Pro will record progressive input at a max of 1080p@30.
The new model, "Intensity Pro 4k" can record at 1080p@60.

Thanks, do you know what I can do about not getting a picture with 1080/30?

Can you force the XB1 to output @ 30fps? (if so it might actually be 29.97)
I know it does 24/50/60. I don't have one anymore (defected to Sony) so I can't test for you.
When you go into settings it attempts to auto-detect but that won't work with the BM cards.

No there's no way to set the framerate on any console I've ever used, only the resolution. I guess I'm stuck with reverting to 720p when I want to capture, or buy a card that isn't so finicky

Thanks for the help!

It's not the card that is 'finicky'. If it's an Intensity Pro and not an Intensity Pro 4K then it doesn't support 1080p60. That's not being 'finicky' that's just a limitation of the card as stated in the tech specs

It absolutely is finicky. Every single capture card I've owned in the past didn't need to be told the exact framerate in order to understand what to show. It simply captured and displayed whatever you plugged into it, adjusting its settings accordingly.

There's absolutely no reason such an expensive card can't figure out what signal you're giving it. Having to specify 59.94 before you'll see a picture is quite ridiculous in this day and age. It's just additional steps that slow you down.

Not sure how you would expect it to detect something it doesn't support. I've been dealing with capture cards for 15 years and a lot of them don't auto detect, although with the latest drivers BM cards are now supposed to be able to auto detect

As to being expensive, the Intensity Pro is extremely cheap in comparison to other cards designed for capturing broadcast quality and that can be used in editing software

You're suggesting the BMIP doesn't support 720p/30fps? It does. But you can't select it even when recording 30fps games from modern consoles, because their outputs are locked at 60 (even if the game you're playing isn't 60)

This means you're recording at 60 for what will eventually be a 30 file. Waste of resources and just downright finicky software.

I understand the price is worth it compared to other cards, my point is for a card that costs what this cost, it should be able to do basic things such as detect your input source.

It's 100% impossible to record older consoles, for example - despite the card coming with a component/composite adapter. PS1 and PS2 don't show up at all, on any of the settings.

I'm not saying it can't record at 30fps, but the hardware passes the uncompressed stream through to the PC and the PC then converts it into the format you want.
I don't see how auto detecting would help as you clearly don't want it to auto detect as that would mean if the input signal is 720p60 it would come in at 720p60, not see 720p60 and convert it to 720p30. The Media Express software is written to capture in at the native resolution and frame rate of the source, not to decimate it by removing every other frame. If you want to do that then do a search to see if anyone has written their own capture plugin that will do this.

As I already said the latest driver (10.4) will detect the source res and frame rate on the cards I've tested it with.

The PS1 didn't output a standard broadcast resolution and therefore isn't a supported format on the Intensity Pro. Haven't checked the PS2, although it did have Macrovision on it which may be stopping the Intensity from being able to capture from it

I'm sorry but the way you just described BMIP's software is exactly why it's finicky.

As I already said the latest driver (10.4) will detect the source res and frame rate on the cards I've tested it with.

If it does, it's redundant because you still need to know the exact res and framerate and choose it from the list before it'll show you anything. I'm going to use that word again: finicky.

With the latest drivers I just choose the source input (HDMI. component, etc) and it detects what res and frame rate is coming through, as long as it's a format supported by that card. Although I don't have a standard Intensity Pro to test with all my other BM devices now auto detect the res & frame rate. If you put the 10.4 drivers on and it can't auto detect the frame rate/res then that may well be a hardware limitation of the card as the design is over 6 years old

You call it 'finicky' I call it 'standard'. Been talking to my colleagues about other professional input devices and all of the ones we can think of you need to set the source and the res and frame rate, and none of them natively decimate a 60fps to 30fps why would they, they assume that if you want to capture at 30fps your source would be 30fps, or you would change the framerate in your editing software after capturing the footage in. I can't think of any of the professional software that uses BM or other cards that allows you to decimate as it captures.

Your original complaint was that you can't capture in 1080p30 because your source is 1080p60 and that the card was finicky, well as I said back then it's not finicky, it just doesn't do 1080p60. The signal coming from your source is set to 1080p60 how do you expect it to change that to 1080p30 if it can't detect it, it's just not physically possible. It can't ignore every other frame as that's not how a video signal works when it's coming in. The source is sending out a signal through the cable announcing it's frame size and frame rate, the Intensity Pro sees that signal and as the chip on the card doesn't support it it can't do anything with it so it ignores it and you get no picture

I have no problem with my Intensity Pro. When I am recording from my Xbox 360 which is what it seems like your recording. I prefer to record at 720p. In all honesty there is really NO difference with 720p and 1080p on Xbox 360.

It's not the card that is 'finicky'. If it's an Intensity Pro and not an Intensity Pro 4K then it doesn't support 1080p60. That's not being 'finicky' that's just a limitation of the card as stated in the tech specs

Sorry Adam, but on the original specs of the Intensity Pro we would have a software update (Blackmagic promissed that) that would bring 1080p@60 support. That never happened, and if the admin guys has not deleted, the proof is right here on this forum on some old posts/threads.

I'm still hoping that one day Blackmagic will update and fulfill the promise, because I'm (like many) are stuck with 720p@60 and the original specs of thie Intensity stated that 1080p@60 WOULD HAPPEN with a driver update.

I know that the Intensity Shuttle was advertised as originally being able to do 1080p60, but I've never seen anything saying the original Intensity Pro would do it and we've been selling them since day one. The only way they could even think of doing it was if it was 1080p60 8 bit at 4:2:0. The card doesn't have enough bandwidth to do it any higher than that.