HDMI to SDI mini converter and HDCP

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Dominic Irving

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HDMI to SDI mini converter and HDCP

PostTue Apr 30, 2013 8:54 pm

Bit confused on this one?? Most HDMI devices have HDCP? Right!! Am I right in thinking that? Am I also right in thinking that if I plug a unit like a media player up to this (which has HDCP) and then connect the SDI to my vision mixer I'll get nothing as this doesn't strip out the HDCP, right??

If that's the case then what can this unit do?? And what is the point of it?? If most HDMI devices have HDCP what would you use it for.

In answer to the question that will probably be asked I want to play video files into a vision mixer from a media player which is HDMI and has HDCP, I can come out composite but I'd rather not as it isn't HD!
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Re: HDMI to SDI mini converter and HDCP

PostTue Apr 30, 2013 10:51 pm

HDCP is mandated to be included in HDMI, but that doesn't mean it's always on. Some media players only turn on HDCP when protected content is played, others have HDCP on all the time, regardless if the content is protected or not.

If you want a sure thing way to play media via HDMI without worrying about HDCP, use a PC.
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Re: HDMI to SDI mini converter and HDCP

PostTue Apr 30, 2013 10:55 pm

You are correct.

The main use would be for HDMI cameras that you want to run distances, as HDMI has a 15m limitation, or if you want to conenct it to an SDI based switcher

One possibility is to use a BM DVI extender. You will need an HDMI socket to DVI plug adaptor. For the audio you will need a RCA (I assume that's your output) to 3.5mm. This will then create an embedded SDI. I have used this with an Apple TV.

There are some other options (a product from Gefen I think it's called HDMI detecive is one) if you search the forums you will see other posts on this.
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Re: HDMI to SDI mini converter and HDCP

PostTue Apr 30, 2013 11:26 pm

Dominci : Im using PopcorHour , Xtreamer , XBMC (on nvidia ION) for playback video streams and files .. And no problem with HDCP .. its just work with BMD HDMI to SDI converter .. I have only one problem with HDCP on GEFEN optical extenders .. and we are using any chinese HDCP wizard box, whitch corecting HDCP problems , and everything works ..
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Re: HDMI to SDI mini converter and HDCP

PostSat May 04, 2013 1:08 pm

All video camera's and laptops / pc's with HDMI do not have / use HDCP. those devices can be extended with this box. Most dvd players only output HDCP protect. As stated by LAW.
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Re: HDMI to SDI mini converter and HDCP

PostMon Jun 10, 2013 12:22 am

OK. I'm new here and this is my first post. Here goes:

Can you take a consumer DVD/CD player and use the HDMI output and run it through a BMD HDMI to SDI converter? Is the converter HDCP compliant? I see nothing that says one way or the other.

If the BMD converter won't work, what will?

Thanks in advance.
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Re: HDMI to SDI mini converter and HDCP

PostMon Jun 10, 2013 2:37 am

if you have a device such as, blue ray player, media player, xbox, direct tv box, cable box etc. use the analog to sdi mini converter !!!

... you will see no noticeable difference if you keep your analog runs short ie under 10-15 feet which i wouldn't advise running hdmi longer than that anyway ...

no hdcp issues and most devices that have hdmi still usually have analog connections.

just as an fyi ... a dvd player will output standard def. there is really no such thing as a regular dvd that is hd ... so if you want to mix dvd playback into your hd system you will need to up-convert it ...

i guess a really they did make hddvd's but it gave way to blue ray ... kinda like the old vhs beta thing anyway use analog to sdi ...
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Re: HDMI to SDI mini converter and HDCP

PostMon Jun 10, 2013 6:38 am

dpeddicord : u can use any HDCP magic box .. this will correct all errors with HDMI ..
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Re: HDMI to SDI mini converter and HDCP

PostMon Jun 10, 2013 2:18 pm

Crikey. Is no-one able to post a straight answer anymore?

dpeddicord: SDI (and HD SDI) doesn't support HDCP.
Therefore, any HDMI to SDI converter will not pass any signals with HDCP.
If they did, this would be tantamount to stripping off the HDCP, and would enable you to copy the signal.
As has been said further up-thread, some players (be they disc or file based) will have HDCP on the HDMI output all the time; some will only include HDCP if the media is content protected; other things such as cameras and computers will not include HDCP.
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Re: HDMI to SDI mini converter and HDCP

PostTue Jun 11, 2013 2:06 pm

Grizzly wrote:Crikey. Is no-one able to post a straight answer anymore?


Those are hard to come by sometimes. I appreciate the input but really didn't see the answer I was looking for.

My understanding of HDCP is that if a source (DVD/Blu-Ray) is outputing HDMI and HDCP, if connected to a non-HDCP device, the source will not output. Hence my unanswered question of is the BMD HDMI/SDI converter HDCP compliant.

However, just so you know, Roland's VC-1-HS HDMI to SDI converter IS HDCP compliant. Problems solved, plus the added benefit of lossless conversion.
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Re: HDMI to SDI mini converter and HDCP

PostTue Jun 11, 2013 4:13 pm

Hi, Im new in the forum and also a new buyer of a Blackmagic product.

We are doing a video conference project where I have 2 cameras with HDMI output which Im planing to connect to our HDMI switcher. Them, the HDMI output from the switcher needs to be connected to the SDI input on the video conference box.

1. My question is, can I use the HDMI to SDI mini converter to convert the hdmi output from the switcher that goes to the SDI input in the VC box?

2. I see there is are two outputs on the converter box, do I need to use both? (because I only need one input)

Thanks!
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Re: HDMI to SDI mini converter and HDCP

PostTue Jun 11, 2013 7:33 pm

dpeddicord wrote:My understanding of HDCP is that if a source (DVD/Blu-Ray) is outputing HDMI and HDCP, if connected to a non-HDCP device, the source will not output.


Not sure about that.

Hence my unanswered question of is the BMD HDMI/SDI converter HDCP compliant.


The BMD HDMI to SDI converter will not convert HDMI signals with HDCP into SDI signals.

However, just so you know, Roland's VC-1-HS HDMI to SDI converter IS HDCP compliant. Problems solved, plus the added benefit of lossless conversion.


No, it isn't. Not in the way you want it to be.
Read the info again: http://www.rolandsystemsgroup.co.uk/products/100120
and pay particular attention to this sentence:
Roland Systems Group wrote:The VC-1 series is HDCP compliant allowing you to convert or pass-through HDCP signals with the exception of any SDI output.


and also this from page 17 of the downloadable manual (under the 'support' tab):
Roland Systems Group wrote:The VC-1-HS supports HDCP (High-bandwidth Digital Content Protection system). When an
HDCP-applied signal is input, output is possible from only the HDMI OUT connector. Output
from the SDI OUT connector and AUDIO OUT connectors is stopped.


Like I said, you won't find a converter that will change HDCP HDMI into SDI.
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Re: HDMI to SDI mini converter and HDCP

PostTue Jun 11, 2013 7:49 pm

Use hdmi wizard box and u can use any hdmi to sdi..
http://www.media-planet.sk
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Re: HDMI to SDI mini converter and HDCP

PostTue Jun 11, 2013 7:55 pm

Great answer. Thanks for the info. So is there such a thing as a "HDCP stripper"?

Grizzly wrote:
dpeddicord wrote:My understanding of HDCP is that if a source (DVD/Blu-Ray) is outputing HDMI and HDCP, if connected to a non-HDCP device, the source will not output.


Not sure about that.

Hence my unanswered question of is the BMD HDMI/SDI converter HDCP compliant.


The BMD HDMI to SDI converter will not convert HDMI signals with HDCP into SDI signals.

However, just so you know, Roland's VC-1-HS HDMI to SDI converter IS HDCP compliant. Problems solved, plus the added benefit of lossless conversion.


No, it isn't. Not in the way you want it to be.
Read the info again: http://www.rolandsystemsgroup.co.uk/products/100120
and pay particular attention to this sentence:
Roland Systems Group wrote:The VC-1 series is HDCP compliant allowing you to convert or pass-through HDCP signals with the exception of any SDI output.


and also this from page 17 of the downloadable manual (under the 'support' tab):
Roland Systems Group wrote:The VC-1-HS supports HDCP (High-bandwidth Digital Content Protection system). When an
HDCP-applied signal is input, output is possible from only the HDMI OUT connector. Output
from the SDI OUT connector and AUDIO OUT connectors is stopped.


Like I said, you won't find a converter that will change HDCP HDMI into SDI.
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Re: HDMI to SDI mini converter and HDCP

PostTue Jun 11, 2013 8:20 pm

Pytkin wrote:Use hdmi wizard box and u can use any hdmi to sdi..


What is a "wizard box"?
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Re: HDMI to SDI mini converter and HDCP

PostTue Jun 11, 2013 8:41 pm

you ask:

If the BMD converter won't work, what will?


should i repeat myself ...

use analog (YPbPr) to sdi ... you will get the same quality video signal and not have to deal with any hdcp issues ... you can embed analog audio into the mini converter with stereo l/r audio on 1/4 in jacks.

none of this is blackmagic's or any other company's fault you just won't find a stand alone box that will do what you want without adding other pieces into the puzzle to make your setup even that much more complicated.
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Re: HDMI to SDI mini converter and HDCP

PostTue Jun 11, 2013 8:55 pm

Brian H wrote:you ask:

If the BMD converter won't work, what will?


should i repeat myself ... .


My wife says men always have to be told twice.

I guess they make Blurays with component out. Sounds like a simple solution. Thanks.
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Re: HDMI to SDI mini converter and HDCP

PostTue Jun 11, 2013 9:15 pm

dpeddicord wrote:
Pytkin wrote:Use hdmi wizard box and u can use any hdmi to sdi..


What is a "wizard box"?

im using this one .. http://www.grandbeing.biz/product/DH0101.htm

works perfect ..
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Re: HDMI to SDI mini converter and HDCP

PostTue Jun 11, 2013 9:28 pm

Pytkin wrote:
dpeddicord wrote:
Pytkin wrote:Use hdmi wizard box and u can use any hdmi to sdi..


What is a "wizard box"?

im using this one .. http://www.grandbeing.biz/product/DH0101.htm

works perfect ..


Wrong link? This is a DVI to HDMI converter.
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Re: HDMI to SDI mini converter and HDCP

PostTue Jun 11, 2013 9:57 pm

marteken wrote:Hi, Im new in the forum and also a new buyer of a Blackmagic product.

We are doing a video conference project where I have 2 cameras with HDMI output which Im planing to connect to our HDMI switcher. Them, the HDMI output from the switcher needs to be connected to the SDI input on the video conference box.

1. My question is, can I use the HDMI to SDI mini converter to convert the hdmi output from the switcher that goes to the SDI input in the VC box?

2. I see there is are two outputs on the converter box, do I need to use both? (because I only need one input)

Thanks!


Why hijack an existing thread with a different question?
Very poor etiquette.
Start a new thread.
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Re: HDMI to SDI mini converter and HDCP

PostTue Jun 11, 2013 10:05 pm

Brian H wrote:you ask:

If the BMD converter won't work, what will?


should i repeat myself ...

use analog (YPbPr) to sdi ...


dpeddicord wrote:I guess they make Blurays with component out. Sounds like a simple solution. Thanks.


It could be that simple...

... although you may find that if you try to play a Blu-ray disc with HDCP, your analogue outputs (component & audio) might mysteriously fail to work... or downscale to SD...
... and only the HDMI output will carry an HD signal...

... which makes perfect sense if you think about it.

Not saying that some players aren't able to circumvent the copy protection in this manner, but I've never seen one...
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Re: HDMI to SDI mini converter and HDCP

PostTue Jun 11, 2013 10:16 pm

Why hijack an existing thread with a different question?
Very poor etiquette.
Start a new thread.


Did you see "poor etiquette" in my question? Couldn't I just be wrong?
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Re: HDMI to SDI mini converter and HDCP

PostTue Jun 11, 2013 11:41 pm

Grizzly wrote:Crikey. Is no-one able to post a straight answer anymore?

Not sure what your definition is.

I stated how to use HDMI to SDI with a DVI extender, Mike Squires explained how HDCP is used, Xtreemtec expanded on that, Brian H came up with another very practical solution.

There are usually multiple ways to resolve an issue and that is where the forum comes into play. Further everyones system has their own nuances and issues and therefore seeing what other people have come across and what they have done is what a forum is all about.

If you want a straight answer than here is is: No Blackmagic Design equipment is HDCP compliant and that is written in every manual.

Grizzly wrote:Why hijack an existing thread with a different question?
Very poor etiquette.
Start a new thread.


Actually think your posts in this thread have been poor etiquette. Fristly you say no one has given a straight answer and repeat components of answers that have been give and then someone who is new to the forum you give them a discouraging and rude reply. May not be the right place for marteken's post but there are better ways of saying it. Am guessing he saw the heading "HDMI to SDI mini converter..." and thought this was the right place!
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Re: HDMI to SDI mini converter and HDCP

PostTue Jun 11, 2013 11:45 pm

Thank you Daniel. That is exactly right. Anyway, glad to see there us actually nice people willing to help right here. BTW, I did created a new post.

Thanks
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Re: HDMI to SDI mini converter and HDCP

PostWed Jun 12, 2013 12:00 am

Grizzly

you are probably right on that one ... a quick search confirmed ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_A ... ent_System

we have older blue ray players, and in reality we run into this issue much more with things like direct tv sat box.

so back to the drawing board ... or get an older player prior to 2011.

have read good things about:

http://www.hdfury.com/
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Re: HDMI to SDI mini converter and HDCP

PostWed Jun 12, 2013 1:22 am

marteken wrote:Thank you Daniel. That is exactly right. Anyway, glad to see there us actually nice people willing to help right here. BTW, I did created a new post.

Thanks


Have responded to your new post
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Re: HDMI to SDI mini converter and HDCP

PostWed Jun 12, 2013 5:38 am

Buy an avue one from amazon. Or do a search on this forum. Someone in sydney bought a box of them off ebay that somehow 'misplaced' the hdcp in the conversion process.
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Re: HDMI to SDI mini converter and HDCP

PostWed Jun 12, 2013 6:51 am

dpeddicord wrote:
Pytkin wrote:im using this one .. http://www.grandbeing.biz/product/DH0101.htm

works perfect ..


Wrong link? This is a DVI to HDMI converter.

no .. link is right .. U put HDMI to DVI cable into this box .. and HDMI out put to SDI converter , or what U want .. we are using it with gefen optical extender .. without this box U get only noise .. with this box u get picture ..
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Re: HDMI to SDI mini converter and HDCP

PostWed Jun 12, 2013 9:38 am

Daniel Knoche wrote:
Grizzly wrote:Crikey. Is no-one able to post a straight answer anymore?

Not sure what your definition is.

I stated how to use HDMI to SDI with a DVI extender, Mike Squires explained how HDCP is used, Xtreemtec expanded on that, Brian H came up with another very practical solution.

There are usually multiple ways to resolve an issue and that is where the forum comes into play. Further everyones system has their own nuances and issues and therefore seeing what other people have come across and what they have done is what a forum is all about.

If you want a straight answer than here is is: No Blackmagic Design equipment is HDCP compliant and that is written in every manual.

Grizzly wrote:Why hijack an existing thread with a different question?
Very poor etiquette.
Start a new thread.


Actually think your posts in this thread have been poor etiquette. Fristly you say no one has given a straight answer and repeat components of answers that have been give and then someone who is new to the forum you give them a discouraging and rude reply. May not be the right place for marteken's post but there are better ways of saying it. Am guessing he saw the heading "HDMI to SDI mini converter..." and thought this was the right place!


This forum is full of waffle, thread hijacks, and other poor etiquette.
My answers have been on-topic and pertinent.
Where I've "repeated components of answers" (it's called 'quoting', BTW), it has been to expand on points raised. That is how forums work.
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Re: HDMI to SDI mini converter and HDCP

PostMon Aug 19, 2013 11:53 am

Stumbled across this looking for something else, don't normally post on here. There's an awful lot of wrong information on here, and the correct information has inaccuracies all around it.

- HDCP can be carried over DVI and HDMI, many devices will switch HDCP on and off depending on whether it's required, others will leave it on all the time. For example, most laptops equipped with HDMI will use HDCP when you play a copyright protected disc through them but will not use HDCP when you show a powerpoint presentation or webpage.
- Blackmagic HDMI to SDI converters are HDCP compliant, in that, if there is HDCP on the HDMI input then they will not output a signal, they are doing exactly what they're supposed to do.
- There are legitimate, legal, commercially available devices out there which will output HD-SDI from an HDMI/DVI connection that has HDCP active, ignoring the copyright protection. I have used devices from two companies who will ship their products with firmware modified to do this, CYP and Lynx Technik (the former is cheaper, the latter is a better product), they will do this modification only for organisations who have a legitimate need to do it, the standard product behaves in the same way as the Blackmagic HDMI to SDI converter. I work for several commercial broadcasters in the UK who do this, the last time I purchased them it required a signed letter from the CEO stating the use.
- There have been a few "dodgy" strippers made by various companies in the past, they may work, but can be retrospectively disabled if the HDCP licensing body revokes the devices public key.
- Analog to SDI devices may work, however, many HDCP compliant devices will disable all/most analogue video outputs when HDCP enabled content is being shown.
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Re: HDMI to SDI mini converter and HDCP

PostTue Aug 20, 2013 2:56 am

My question is: Should any video switcher be playing out anything that requires HDCP?

When obtaining the permission for broadcast you can usually ask for a short clip. Then
you have fewer issues to work out.

EDID is another issue.
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Re: HDMI to SDI mini converter and HDCP

PostMon Sep 23, 2013 9:32 am

rcourtney wrote:My question is: Should any video switcher be playing out anything that requires HDCP?

When obtaining the permission for broadcast you can usually ask for a short clip. Then
you have fewer issues to work out.

EDID is another issue.


Yes it could be questionable, these are the two most common use cases I've dealt with:

  • Apple TV: These often output HDCP even when it's not required, I used a number of them coupled to iPad's using Airplay, most of the time using the screen mirroring feature. Presenters could then use the iPad to visit webpages or open apps (not all apps work with screen mirroring) and the vision mixer could then cut this up to give a better view to the audience, usually after some cropping and DVE manipulation within the mixer (MVS but should work with ATEM's)
  • Off Air receivers: Commonly, broadcasters will want to be able to receive their own channels off air as a confidence feed, again for confidence this is usually done using consumer receivers. The off air signals are usually fed into routers and multiviewers so needs to be HD-SDI, so yes, this is used to defeat copyright protection on the broadcasters own content.
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Re: HDMI to SDI mini converter and HDCP

PostWed Aug 27, 2014 9:20 pm

Wow, what a complicated thread for a simple issue...

Yes, BMD hardware IS HDCP compliant IN THE DIGITAL DOMAIN. You can not plug a HyperDeck Shuttle into a TiVo via HDMI and copy programming that is protected.

If the signal remains in the DIGITAL domain and is not converted or sourced in analog, the digital copy protection will remain and output will be restricted at the player side.

BUT, you CAN strip the digital protection code from the signal in a NUMBER of ways.

1) get a BluRay player with COMPONENT output and run it through an analog to digital converter (like the BMD Analog to SDI) and then into the gear. Make sure you have your resolution settings locked together.

2) Get a HDMI to COMPONENT converter and then treat as in 1. Some players are no longer providing COMPONENT outs on the chassis (or analog audio outs to connect to a FOH system or console), so this may be a good solution if you want to NEVER have to deal with this problem with ANY HD source ever again... Most HDMI to Analog converters will provide 1080p COMPONENT, along with at least L/R audio outputs. Buy the shortest, best quality component cable you can find and just velcro the two converters together is my advice.

3) run your BluRays through a PC. Mac does not do this very well right now (probably because of the HDCP issue and general licensing woes), so PC (where the pirate rules, for better or worse) are the best bet.

OK, I hope that was more concise.
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Re: HDMI to SDI mini converter and HDCP

PostFri Aug 29, 2014 8:34 am

You know.. it is pretty odd to get notifications of a new post to a year old thread.

Perhaps you could create your own post/thread to give us your words of wisdom (which are appreciated). At least then we won't have to drag up an old thread which has been long forgotten.
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Re: HDMI to SDI mini converter and HDCP

PostThu Mar 16, 2017 8:17 pm

Google search, "how to remove hdcp" -- seems it's a $20 problem using a 1x2 splitter these days.

http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-Bypassing-HDCP

As far as the other poster with over two thousand posts, some people are more about providing information to people outside of this little forum. When you google search problems, google uses something called "Google Brain" to come up with the best answers for what you're looking for. So a lot of people use Google instead of posting only on this forum. So what to you looks like an old forum post, to the internet may be one of the most useful posts on the entire site.

I apologize if I messed up the forum over here to help someone who is doing a google search on the problem where the Blackmagicdesign HDMI to SDI converter fails when HDCP is present. But obviously, this was a choice made by the designers and the HDCP could have been stripped out. I think that's the point made by the OP. It should convert even if it has to strip the HDCP because it is a PROFESSIONAL FREAKING PRODUCT.

Just my two cents. And I agree with the OP, and I also don't care about raising a topic from the grave on the Blackmagic Forum as much as I do providing answers for those who need them, even beyond this forum.

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Re: HDMI to SDI mini converter and HDCP

PostFri Mar 17, 2017 8:58 am

Well BMD could strip the HDCP. But Then they would have created a product that is against the law and big companies like Warner, Sony and others could file a law suite against them.

At the present day there are much more alternative to this dhcp problem
Then it was in 2013 were you digged this topic from :roll:

There are Some Chinese 3G converters on the market. Selling them for 40 dollars on alibaba.. which do not care About HDCP. They just tell the source they are a monitor and that handles the hdcp encryption.

Do i use them a lot? No! Because i almost don't use hdmi sources at all in the broadcast. But Yes i always have Some in the truck if Some dvd player or laptop or foreign source has dhcp for whatever reason enabled..
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