Camera Shipping Update: 11/15

... and can you name some manufacturers that gave a specific date and did not meet the deadlines 6 months down the line?

RED.

The original scarlet was never delivered after...2 years ?

EPIC was late by nearly a year.

RED MX was very late delivering

Bomb EVF's were 2 years late delivering and they even withdrew the original EVF so you couldn't even BUY an EVF for a RED camera for quite a while.

I've never seen the original RED SSD RAID that you could buy on the RED site for more than 2 years.

Looks like the Mysler modules I was planning on using in December won't be shipping...

Zeiss just told me that the 135mm CP2 I ordered (as soon as it was able to be ordered)  has had its delivery pushed back again, from December to February at the earliest. (it was announced in April)

Panasonic are chronically months and years late with nearly every broadcast camera they make, especially if you want 25FPS 50Hz versions of their cameras, from the AF100 up to their studio cameras

Again.  You're making assertions that just aren't true.  Let's stop hey ?

 There is no excuse for being this late AND then not updating when you say you will.

If there is no excuse then you should definitely move on and you won't have to be so disappointed.  

BMD and this camera clearly isn't for you.  They haven't won your trust so you should find something else that doesn't keep you posting incessantly about it being delayed.  Clearly it's keeping you awake at night.

jb

Ah RED... pretty sure I asked for a company that released EXACT dates... I may be wrong but didn't RED always give approx dates? They never said "End of July 2012" for example and made a big deal out of it;)

As I stated before I will wait until the end of this month before moving on to another camera! However even then I will still post here complaining until people get their camera and do you know why jb? Because it's a free world;)

Not to be adversarial.. Red was actually over 3 years late with the original 3K Scarlet pocket camera.. I know this because I was going to buy one.. They had the little camera in fancy displays at NAB and other shows around the world.. then they pulled it from the market when Canon announced the 5Dmk2.. which I ended up buying because RED crapped out on their 3K for $3K cinema camera..
So.. yes.. 3 years late

all this talk isnt productive...just be content to wait.

Grant did say

"We will update next week WHEN WE KNOW"

jb

"WHEN WE KNOW" suggest to me Grant will know by next week which is now.
It is not a matter of "if" but "when".

For the life of me, I do not understand when people asking legitimate questions about late shipping of BMCC, on a blackmagic forum under shipping threat concerning promises made and not kept by a blackmagic staff, end up being called whiners! I just don't get it! I have clients and if I tell them something about their order, I have to keep my word.

There is Digital Bolex and Kineraw that we already know about, believe me there will be competitors.

If Digital Bolex actually happens I'll be very surprised, and yet it's still not a competitor. You can likely count on those guys never doing a camera again, either.

Kineraw Mini by March of 2013? Aren't they still trying to get their first camera out of the door? Also, they can't sell stateside as of yet. And what about the insane rolling shutter that's being reported? Worse than MKII is a pretty bad way to start off. Likleyhood of similar/amazing Blackmagic color science? What about Dynamic Range? The current Kineraw's said to hit eleven no?

I guess it's this conversation again, but when I think "competitor" I am thinking someone that offers something equal to or better than what's available at a give price point, matching features etc. So, yeah, who's going to offer a competing product in the span of three-to-four months that'll be shipping by the third quarter of 2013?

=P

You have to waite for NAB 2013 to find out otherwise it would'nt be NAB if there is no surprises. I hope whoever unleash upon us their next new toys can be more realistic about the shipping date and learn from the bad PR by BMD which is drastically undoing what is otherwise a great product.

For the life of me, I do not understand when people asking legitimate questions about late shipping of BMCC, on a blackmagic forum under shipping threat concerning promises made and not kept by a blackmagic staff, end up being called whiners! I just don't get it! I have clients and if I tell them something about their order, I have to keep my word.

It is those few apologists and old pals act at work. Just ignore them and keep up the pressure. If people say nothing BMD will just slack and forget the whole darn thing ever happen and move on to their next fad.

For the life of me, I do not understand when people asking legitimate questions about late shipping of BMCC, on a blackmagic forum under shipping threat concerning promises made and not kept by a blackmagic staff, end up being called whiners! I just don't get it! I have clients and if I tell them something about their order, I have to keep my word.

It is those few apologists and old pals act at work. Just ignore them and keep up the pressure. If people say nothing BMD will just slack and forget the whole darn thing ever happen and move on to their next fad.

And a post on a forum is pressure how....are you serious ?

Especially when it's repetative by the same people over and over and over and over and over again.

For goodness sake !

Am pretty sure BMD drivers are to get cameras rolling out the door as fast as possible, regardless of the nonsense that goes on here.

Apparently the more you complain the further down in the pre-order queue you go.

I moved on, got a Red Scarlet, to get a working package came in almost 5 times the cost of the BMCC. Was it worth it, yes, i love the camera, am i still rooting for BMCC, yes i am, but i no longer feel the frustration with the delays etc, and hope to pick one up next year.

At the end of the day is just a tool, and being a cynical Scot, i dont drink Kool aid, no matter where it is.

A.