B&H "BMD Expert" answers BMPCC4K questions

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Re: B&H "BMD Expert" answers BMPCC4K questions

PostWed May 09, 2018 1:37 pm

ProRes RAW Redux

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Re: B&H "BMD Expert" answers BMPCC4K questions

PostWed May 09, 2018 1:49 pm

Classic. I get this sort of confusion from people a bit too.
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Re: B&H "BMD Expert" answers BMPCC4K questions

PostThu May 10, 2018 11:04 am

Very good info here! Though, what confuses me - why is B&H answering questions and BMD doesn't simply put infos on ther Specs site like ISO range, weight etc.?
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Re: B&H "BMD Expert" answers BMPCC4K questions

PostThu May 10, 2018 3:53 pm

Janis Lionel wrote:Very good info here! Though, what confuses me - why is B&H answering questions and BMD doesn't simply put infos on ther Specs site like ISO range, weight etc.?


You mean this? https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/produc ... nemacamera
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Re: B&H "BMD Expert" answers BMPCC4K questions

PostThu May 10, 2018 10:34 pm

michaeldhead wrote:
Janis Lionel wrote:Very good info here! Though, what confuses me - why is B&H answering questions and BMD doesn't simply put infos on ther Specs site like ISO range, weight etc.?


You mean this? https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/produc ... nemacamera


of course i visited that page but for instance; it doesn't state the ISO values as the BH tech did...it only says "up to 25'000" iso. Believing the infos of the BH tech; its 400 and 3200 base iso. so why not put the info online? Maybe they're scared because they promised to much before...global shutter ;P
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Re: B&H "BMD Expert" answers BMPCC4K questions

PostFri May 11, 2018 1:01 am

Janis Lionel wrote:
michaeldhead wrote:
Janis Lionel wrote:Very good info here! Though, what confuses me - why is B&H answering questions and BMD doesn't simply put infos on ther Specs site like ISO range, weight etc.?


You mean this? https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/produc ... nemacamera


of course i visited that page but for instance; it doesn't state the ISO values as the BH tech did...it only says "up to 25'000" iso. Believing the infos of the BH tech; its 400 and 3200 base iso. so why not put the info online? Maybe they're scared because they promised to much before...global shutter ;P



If you look at their other cameras, they never state the native ISO for any of their cameras. Sony doesn't list it on their site either. Grant talked about it at NAB 2018. Check out that video.
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Re: B&H "BMD Expert" answers BMPCC4K questions

PostMon May 14, 2018 5:28 pm

Can't copy from SD or CFast to SSD

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Re: B&H "BMD Expert" answers BMPCC4K questions

PostThu May 17, 2018 3:47 pm

Does not support USB-C to Ethernet

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Re: B&H "BMD Expert" answers BMPCC4K questions

PostSun May 20, 2018 9:30 pm

Can the new pocket use slower FRAME RATES, 1-24fps?

Has this been answered yet?
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Re: B&H "BMD Expert" answers BMPCC4K questions

PostMon May 21, 2018 5:45 pm

At this point in time, slower than 24fps is not available on BM cameras, even though it has been requested for some time.
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Re: B&H "BMD Expert" answers BMPCC4K questions

PostMon May 21, 2018 6:22 pm

Joe Giambrone wrote:Can the new pocket use slower FRAME RATES, 1-24fps?

Has this been answered yet?


If you mean something like shooting 16 or 18 frames per second (for example) no but you can sort play with the time lapse interval to shot one frame and at a 2 frame interval (etc) for off speed effect.
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Re: B&H "BMD Expert" answers BMPCC4K questions

PostMon May 21, 2018 7:58 pm

According to "Indie Shooter" (URL's not allowed), the Ursa firmware 4.0 can do it.

Where is the documentation on "Off-Speed Frame Rate?"

And more importantly: is the new Pocket 4K going to have it?


" You can toggle “Off Speed Frame Rate” to slide between every single number between 12 and 60 to get the exact frame rate you want. Many will be quick to say this is useless, while many others will recognize the uncapping of creativity this unleashes, especially for those who love to shoot with higher or lower than normal frame rates."
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Re: B&H "BMD Expert" answers BMPCC4K questions

PostTue May 22, 2018 2:16 am

Joe Giambrone wrote:Where is the documentation on "Off-Speed Frame Rate?"


This is documented in page 66 / 67 of the URSA Mini Manual.

Joe Giambrone wrote:And more importantly: is the new Pocket 4K going to have it?


Yes, this will also be available in the Pocket Cinema Camera 4K. As to high low the off speed frame rate can go, this is yet to be confirmed.
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Re: B&H "BMD Expert" answers BMPCC4K questions

PostTue May 22, 2018 3:24 am

Yes, this will also be available in the Pocket Cinema Camera 4K. As to high low the off speed frame rate can go, this is yet to be confirmed.



This is very good news (and a sale). We need all the functionality we can get!
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Re: B&H "BMD Expert" answers BMPCC4K questions

PostWed May 23, 2018 2:04 pm

Suggestion for cDNG in MXF wrapper
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Re: B&H "BMD Expert" answers BMPCC4K questions

PostWed May 23, 2018 2:09 pm

Does B&H not queue questions from mobile apps? I asked a couple over the weekend regarding NVMe support over USB-C and wether plugging the BMPCC 4K to a computer would recognize cards as attached drives. Neither has made it to the viewable list.


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Re: B&H "BMD Expert" answers BMPCC4K questions

PostWed May 23, 2018 2:13 pm

Andres Guzman wrote:Does B&H not queue questions from mobile apps? I asked a couple over the weekend regarding NVMe support over USB-C and wether plugging the BMPCC 4K to a computer would recognize cards as attached drives. Neither has made it to the viewable list.


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If the NVMe memory in a USB-C enclosure, it will get recognised but your bottleneck is still the USB-C interface.

No, plugging in the camera to a computer will not allow the media in the camera to be accessed.
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Re: B&H "BMD Expert" answers BMPCC4K questions

PostWed May 23, 2018 10:32 pm

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If the NVMe memory in a USB-C enclosure, it will get recognised but your bottleneck is still the USB-C interface.



Thanks Kristian; however, my assessment is a little different. I see USB-C as the pipe but not what flows through it. Sure, if the BMPCC 4K comes out with USB 3.1 Gen 1 specs (5 Gbps theoretical), I totally see that being a bottleneck. But — if it comes out swinging with 3.1 Gen 2 or later... we are looking at ~10 Gbps speeds. Whereas SATA interface caps out at 6 Gbps, NVMe is based on PCIe protocols (e.g. 18 Gbps write speeds).

My point? I envision an M.2 SSD USB-C enclosure, capable of more than 6 Gbps so... if we want to push 4K60 DCI Uncompressed RAW out of the Pocket to small/inexpensive SSDs (smaller and cheaper than Samsung T5s), then why not? CFast 2 sure can’t hang at those speeds.

I can’t wait for September 3rd!


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Re: B&H "BMD Expert" answers BMPCC4K questions

PostSat May 26, 2018 12:10 am

Info about USB-C port closer to release.

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Re: B&H "BMD Expert" answers BMPCC4K questions

PostSat May 26, 2018 12:13 am

More info about 12V connector coming closer to release

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PostSat May 26, 2018 12:22 am

Andres Guzman wrote:Thanks Kristian; however, my assessment is a little different. I see USB-C as the pipe but not what flows through it. Sure, if the BMPCC 4K comes out with USB 3.1 Gen 1 specs (5 Gbps theoretical), I totally see that being a bottleneck.


It will be USB 3.1 Gen 1 (5 Gbps).
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