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Blackmagic RAW in Adobe Premiere

PostSat Sep 22, 2018 2:00 am

As many here would agree, it would be awesome if BRAW was supported in Adobe Premiere.
I don't know if it has been posted here before but here is a link to Adobe's suggestions page where we can vote for adding support for Blackmagic RAW:

https://adobe-video.uservoice.com/forums/911233-premiere-pro/suggestions/35405632-support-blackmagic-raw

Hopefully it will gain some traction...

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Re: BRAW in Adobe Premiere

PostSun Sep 23, 2018 6:30 pm

BM has made the new Raw codec SDK file available, and now it is up to Adobe to include it in Premiere.
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Re: BRAW in Adobe Premiere

PostTue Sep 25, 2018 11:46 pm

That's absolutely correct Denny!

Nonetheless, please follow the link and add your vote if you can.
Hopefully this will show people from Adobe that there is an actual demand for BRAW support.

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Re: BRAW in Adobe Premiere

PostThu Sep 27, 2018 2:48 am

Yes please let Adobe know that you would like this format added. We have provided an SDK and would like to see it supported in as many applications as possible.
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Re: Blackmagic RAW in Adobe Premiere

PostThu Oct 18, 2018 2:14 pm

Would it be possible for the team at Black Magic to build a plugin of sorts that Adobe users could use in the interim to playback and cut .BRAW in Premiere?
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Re: Blackmagic RAW in Adobe Premiere

PostThu Oct 18, 2018 3:22 pm

jordan spalding wrote:Would it be possible for the team at Black Magic to build a plugin of sorts that Adobe users could use in the interim to playback and cut .BRAW in Premiere?


They did. It's called an SDK.
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Re: Blackmagic RAW in Adobe Premiere

PostTue Oct 23, 2018 11:41 am

And until Adobe integrates that you'll need to transcode with Resolve.
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PostTue Oct 23, 2018 2:16 pm

Well, guess what: Scratch added Blackmagic RAW. Balls in Adobe's court, but knowing Adobe they'll be too late to the game.
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Re: Blackmagic RAW in Adobe Premiere

PostTue Oct 23, 2018 4:14 pm

Seriously, who cares? LightWorks, Resolve, and now Scratch have braw support... so it's Adobe's loss.

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Re: Blackmagic RAW in Adobe Premiere

PostSun Jan 13, 2019 2:44 am

We are launching a BETA version of a Premiere Pro BRAW import plugin, send me a private message if you want to participate !
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What's the benefit of Premiere over Resolve?
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Re: Blackmagic RAW in Adobe Premiere

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Australian Image wrote:What's the benefit of Premiere over Resolve?

At this juncture there is no benefit unless you love the Adobe ecosystem. I've switched to Resolve for editing and have been in it for editing for 3-years. So, Adobe lost me on that front. Yet, I use Adobe still for Dreamweaver to work on my website, Photoshop, Lightroom, & Illustrator for the obvious, and lastly I still occasionally use After Effects when it makes sense. However, I'm using Fusion in Resolve a lot more these days than After Effects.
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Re: Blackmagic RAW in Adobe Premiere

PostMon Jan 14, 2019 6:17 am

timbutt2 wrote: At this juncture there is no benefit unless you love the Adobe ecosystem.


Perhaps on very simple editing projects this claim may hold water, but Resolve is nowhere near as flexible or multi-faceted in terms of large scale editing projects as Premiere is, and I say this as someone who would dearly love to be able to take a project from start to finish in the Blackmagic ecosystem.

Resolve certainly is on the up & up with it's editing capabilities, but to pretend that it is not primarily a colour-grading software with some editing capabilities thrown on top is just plain wrong in my experience. Admittedly much of my work is on large-scale projects, and your experience may be on very different styles of work, but there are a multitude of reasons that many professionals around the world still pay an exorbitant monthly fee to Adobe, as opposed to just purchasing or using a free version of Resolve. The fact that I still can't even create multiple timelines of differing frame rates & resolutions within one project in Resolve (unless I've missed a recent update!) is an absolute deal-breaker, and that's just the first of the real world issues that I face in my production environment every single day, which sadly Resolve just can't handle yet.

As I've said, I'm a massive Blackmagic fanboy, and have been in their camera & grading ecosystem for over 5 years, but to have access to BRAW within Premiere would be a massive benefit to myself, and all of my co-workers. For BRAW to truly take off it's going to need to be made compatible with all major NLE's, and I am eagerly awaiting the day that it is included within a Premiere update!
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Re: Blackmagic RAW in Adobe Premiere

PostMon Jan 14, 2019 7:23 am

Nathan Wood wrote: The fact that I still can't even create multiple timelines of differing frame rates & resolutions within one project in Resolve (unless I've missed a recent update!) is an absolute deal-breaker, and that's just the first of the real world issues that I face in my production environment every single day, which sadly Resolve just can't handle yet.


Unless I misunderstand you, I've been editing video taken with different cameras, different resolutions and at different framerates, within the same project, without any problems.
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PostMon Jan 14, 2019 8:19 am

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Nathan Wood wrote: The fact that I still can't even create multiple timelines of differing frame rates & resolutions within one project in Resolve (unless I've missed a recent update!) is an absolute deal-breaker, and that's just the first of the real world issues that I face in my production environment every single day, which sadly Resolve just can't handle yet.


Unless I misunderstand you, I've been editing video taken with different cameras, different resolutions and at different framerates, within the same project, without any problems.


I think he means having sequences with different frame rates in the same project.
For example when I am editing TV commercials I shoot and edit in 50p. So the main sequence is in 50p for editing the spot. That sequence sits in a 50i sequence between a head and tail animation, and LUFS controls for TV output. The same main sequence also goes into a 25p sequence with company jingle intro for web output and different audio levels.
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Re: Blackmagic RAW in Adobe Premiere

PostMon Jan 14, 2019 8:24 am

Robert Niessner wrote:
Australian Image wrote:
Nathan Wood wrote: The fact that I still can't even create multiple timelines of differing frame rates & resolutions within one project in Resolve (unless I've missed a recent update!) is an absolute deal-breaker, and that's just the first of the real world issues that I face in my production environment every single day, which sadly Resolve just can't handle yet.


Unless I misunderstand you, I've been editing video taken with different cameras, different resolutions and at different framerates, within the same project, without any problems.


I think he means having sequences with different frame rates in the same project.
For example when I am editing TV commercials I shoot and edit in 50p. So the main sequence is in 50p for editing the spot. That sequence sits in a 50i sequence between a head and tail animation, and LUFS controls for TV output. The same main sequence also goes into a 25p sequence with company jingle intro for web output and different audio levels.


That's what I thought he meant and I've done that in Resolve, combining 24fps sequences with 50/60fps sequences. Or am I still missing what both of you mean?
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PostMon Jan 14, 2019 2:14 pm

Australian Image wrote:That's what I thought he meant and I've done that in Resolve, combining 24fps sequences with 50/60fps sequences. Or am I still missing what both of you mean?


You can put footage with mixed frame rates in the same timeline but you can't have timelines with different frame rates in the same project.
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Re: Blackmagic RAW in Adobe Premiere

PostMon Jan 21, 2019 4:23 am

BRAW support announced in Lightworks today:

https://twitter.com/eslightworks/status/1053269349396594689?s=21
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Re: Blackmagic RAW in Adobe Premiere

PostMon Jan 21, 2019 8:03 am

Hoping we will see BM RAW for the BMPCC4K soon now. The BMPCC4K have been out for a while, and BRAW even longer. The BMPCC4K was certainly designed for BRAW in mind, so much of the software development (if not all) must have been done already. I know it'll be out when it is ready, but I hope it will be soon :)
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Re: Blackmagic RAW in Adobe Premiere

PostTue Jan 29, 2019 11:31 pm

Hi everyone,

You can import .BRAW natively now with our BRAW Studio plugin ! More info here : https://autokroma.com/BRAW_Studio/
I am here to answer any question and receive feedback

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PostSat Feb 23, 2019 8:54 pm

That's great!

Is there a timeline for getting the plugin on Mac?
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Re: Blackmagic RAW in Adobe Premiere

PostSat Feb 23, 2019 9:24 pm

You can import BRAW into Premiere and access its metadata. I read about it recently and bookmarked the page. I'll have a look around and post it once I find it.
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Re: Blackmagic RAW in Adobe Premiere

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Australian Image wrote:What's the benefit of Premiere over Resolve?


It's more expensive. :mrgreen:
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Australian Image wrote:What's the benefit of Premiere over Resolve?

Rakesh Malik wrote:It's more expensive. :mrgreen:


:lol:

In my case, the only "benefit" is that virtually all my clients refuse to move on from Premiere for editing
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Re: Blackmagic RAW in Adobe Premiere

PostSun Feb 24, 2019 7:05 pm

antoine wrote:Hi everyone,

You can import .BRAW natively now with our BRAW Studio plugin ! More info here : https://autokroma.com/BRAW_Studio/
I am here to answer any question and receive feedback

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Work very well on different configuration, also where resolve cannot work (I had an old notebook hp where I can install only resolve 12.5).
There are many reasons to add this to your arsenal if you work on different nle and different computer. Allow you to read and develop like many other raw files, but faster ;-)


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Re: Blackmagic RAW in Adobe Premiere

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Jamie LeJeune wrote:In my case, the only "benefit" is that virtually all my clients refuse to move on from Premiere for editing


My condolences!

EVERYONE who's a Premiere user that I've convinced to try Resolve has chosen to not go back. And it seems that the handoffs are just getting worse; I can't tell whether the editors are getting dumber (or simply too blind to see the severe gamut clipping they introduced? Too used to bozo-ographers delivering terrible footage?) Premiere is getting buggier (probably both?), but the handoffs are definitely getting worse.
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Re: Blackmagic RAW in Adobe Premiere

PostMon Feb 25, 2019 1:34 am

I'd say Premiere got a bit more stable than the year before, but I don't see any other reason sticking to it than insufficient hardware.
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PostMon Feb 25, 2019 2:11 am

And the efficiency improvements in Resolve 15.4 are significant on my underpowered iMac late 2015. Much better now.

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Not to make people search for it in vain, Rick: it's 15.2.4.

Maybe NAB will bring 15.4 or even 15.5. ?
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Re: Blackmagic RAW in Adobe Premiere

PostMon Feb 25, 2019 7:00 am

Rakesh Malik wrote:Seriously, who cares? LightWorks, Resolve, and now Scratch have braw support... so it's Adobe's loss.

:mrgreen: :lol:


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Re: Blackmagic RAW in Adobe Premiere

PostMon Feb 25, 2019 5:23 pm

Uli Plank wrote:Not to make people search for it in vain, Rick: it's 15.2.4.

Maybe NAB will bring 15.4 or even 15.5. ?


BMD will almost certainly introduce v16 at NAB. If history is any indication, it's going to cause yet another massive shakedown for the post industry.
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Re: Blackmagic RAW in Adobe Premiere

PostMon Feb 25, 2019 6:58 pm

Uli Plank wrote:Not to make people search for it in vain, Rick: it's 15.2.4.

Maybe NAB will bring 15.4 or even 15.5. ?


Thanks, Uli. I just got on to correct that error as I was thinking about it this morning and saw your post from yesterday. Corrected. .


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