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Re: Apple and BMCC

PostWed Jan 23, 2013 2:40 pm

These are the results when I have the camera connected via Thunderbolt to my MacBook Pro 17".

Apple System Profile lists the camera under Thunderbolt as follows:
Cinema Camera:

Vendor Name: Blackmagic Design
Device Name: Cinema Camera
Vendor ID: 0x4
Device ID: 0xA125
Device Revision: 0x1
UID: 0x00040000000E26C0
Route String: 1
Firmware Version: 7.1
Port:
Status: Connected
Link Status: 2
Port Micro Firmware Version: 0.2.5
Cable Firmware Version: 0.1.18

Final Cut Pro X does not see the camera in the import dialoge under camera. Only the iSight webcam is listed.

Final Cut Pro 7 does not list the Blackmagic Cinema Camera in the device list in Log and Capture. Selecting other Blackmagic HDTV presets does not work.

Blackmagic Media Express sees the camera and can capture straight to disc in same HD 1080p formats the camera supports (23.98, 24, 25, 29.97 and 30). You can record to various Quicktime codecs and DPX.

I could not get UltraScopes to launch. Got this message every time:
Startup Failed
UltraScopes could not configure the capture hardware

No idea why that is as Media Express sees the camera just fine. I even downloaded the latest version from the Blackmagic Support Site.
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Re: Apple and BMCC

PostWed Jan 23, 2013 2:41 pm

John Brawley wrote:Goodness it's not that difficult.


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Re: Apple and BMCC

PostWed Jan 23, 2013 3:12 pm

adamroberts wrote:
John Brawley wrote:Goodness it's not that difficult.


:-)


JB not fair you got one earlier than all of us :P

LOL!
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Re: Apple and BMCC

PostWed Jan 23, 2013 3:15 pm

Thanks Adam for the breakdown.

Hmm can someone from BMD chime in on this situation asap.

I was about to rent one for a live event.

Dont want to use a HyperDeck2 with my Scarlet due to the environment of this shoot :P
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Re: Apple and BMCC

PostWed Jan 23, 2013 6:07 pm

adamroberts wrote:Blackmagic Media Express sees the camera and can capture straight to disc in same HD 1080p formats the camera supports (23.98, 24, 25, 29.97 and 30). You can record to various Quicktime codecs and DPX.


DPX too. Nice, had not realized that.

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Re: Apple and BMCC

PostThu Jan 24, 2013 7:58 am

Hi,

I have just performed a quick test using the camera with a MacBook Pro 17". UltraScope sees the camera fine, I'm not seeing any problems there. Have you made sure to use the copy of UltraScope that comes with the Cinema Camera software? Please try using the uninstaller icon in the Cinema Camera 1.1 software installer package, and then install again. Then try launching UltraScope and see if you see the same thing. If you still don't get anywhere, please do contact your regional support team using the numbers here.

Final Cut Pro X does not have any way to capture from a device such as the Cinema Camera, so I'm afraid that there's no way this can work.

I haven't been able to test with FCP7 as yet, but I don't believe it's supported.
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Re: Apple and BMCC

PostThu Jan 24, 2013 3:41 pm

Chris Pearse wrote:Hi,

I have just performed a quick test using the camera with a MacBook Pro 17". UltraScope sees the camera fine, I'm not seeing any problems there. Have you made sure to use the copy of UltraScope that comes with the Cinema Camera software? Please try using the uninstaller icon in the Cinema Camera 1.1 software installer package, and then install again. Then try launching UltraScope and see if you see the same thing. If you still don't get anywhere, please do contact your regional support team using the numbers here.

Final Cut Pro X does not have any way to capture from a device such as the Cinema Camera, so I'm afraid that there's no way this can work.

I haven't been able to test with FCP7 as yet, but I don't believe it's supported.


Thanks Chris. I now have Ultrascopes working after re-installing the software package.

Still can't capture from Resolve tho. See here:
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=4411&p=27423#p27423
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Re: Apple and BMCC

PostFri Jan 25, 2013 3:37 am

likewise for my 'early 2011' MacBook Pro 17" - Ultrascope now good
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Re: Apple and BMCC

PostMon Jan 28, 2013 1:03 pm

Chris Pearse wrote:I haven't been able to test with FCP7 as yet, but I don't believe it's supported.


Page 21 of the manual, as quoted by Christine, certainly refers to being able to "capture video from the Thunderbolt port" using Final Cut Pro 7.
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Re: Apple and BMCC

PostThu Feb 28, 2013 9:00 pm

Yeah, this is frustrating. BMDCC via TBolt to Ultrascope works fine. Can Capture on the fly to Express either live camera or free run playback.
But no Log & Capture anywhere. FCP7, Express, Resolve, there doesn't seem to be any deck control anywhere. Is this correct?
I mean I rely on logging clips by Mark In, Mark Out, Add Metadata, then Batch capture. I can't believe this doesn't work on this camera, I mean whats the point of giving Express if it can't control the camera transport? What am I missing?
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Re: Apple and BMCC

PostThu Sep 26, 2013 1:59 pm

Chris Pearse wrote:Hi,

I have just performed a quick test using the camera with a MacBook Pro 17". UltraScope sees the camera fine, I'm not seeing any problems there. Have you made sure to use the copy of UltraScope that comes with the Cinema Camera software? Please try using the uninstaller icon in the Cinema Camera 1.1 software installer package, and then install again. Then try launching UltraScope and see if you see the same thing. If you still don't get anywhere, please do contact your regional support team using the numbers here.

Final Cut Pro X does not have any way to capture from a device such as the Cinema Camera, so I'm afraid that there's no way this can work.

I haven't been able to test with FCP7 as yet, but I don't believe it's supported.


Hello Chris,

I downloaded Ultrascope 1.6 and tried to hook up my BMCC, with no luck. It came up with "Ultrascope could not configure the capture hardware."

Any advice?
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Re: Apple and BMCC

PostThu Sep 26, 2013 3:46 pm

You need to use the version of UltraScopes that is installed with the Cinema Camera Utility if you want to use it with the BMCC.

Uninstall UltraScopes. Download the latest Camera Utility (ver 1.4.2) and run the installer. Then launch the version of UltraScopes that this installer installs.
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Re: Apple and BMCC

PostThu Sep 26, 2013 11:03 pm

Samjack wrote:I'm aware its been discussed before but has anyone got further info why Apple included an image of a BMCC hooked up to an iMAC in their store website?
Image

Does the new iMAC and Final Cut X an ideal choice for BMCC?


Probably because the black and silver matches their products, no other reason. Most other cameras are black and would not match.
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Re: Apple and BMCC

PostThu Sep 26, 2013 11:23 pm

Now that Apple has 120fps video coming out of a phone, they should give BMC some advice on how to get at least 1080/60P out of the Production Camera.
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Re: Apple and BMCC

PostFri Sep 27, 2013 12:39 am

Marcel Beck wrote:
Hello Chris,

I downloaded Ultrascope 1.6 and tried to hook up my BMCC, with no luck. It came up with "Ultrascope could not configure the capture hardware."

Any advice?


Hi Marcel,

Adam's advice to use the version of UltraScope included with the Camera Utility I think should work. But if not, please check that Media Express can see the camera is attached in the 'devices' menu. If it can, close Media Express and try UltraScope again. If it cannot see the camera, then something else could be wrong. In which case I would suggest contacting support.
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Re: Apple and BMCC

PostFri Sep 27, 2013 9:56 am

Thanks Adam & Chris,

Works now, did the update to 1.4.2.


Any updates when Ultra scope goes Fullscreen on MBP Retina? Still get the error that my resolution is incorrect (Even though its 1920x1200)
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Re: Apple and BMCC

PostThu Oct 31, 2013 6:44 pm

Marcel Beck wrote:Thanks Adam & Chris,

Works now, did the update to 1.4.2.


Any updates when Ultra scope goes Fullscreen on MBP Retina? Still get the error that my resolution is incorrect (Even though its 1920x1200)


Same here. Would be great to have fullscreen on MBP Retina.
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Re: Apple and BMCC

PostThu Oct 31, 2013 11:00 pm

satyablack wrote:
Christian Schmeer wrote:Just wondering, how well is Resolve supposed to run on a 15" Retina MacBook Pro / 2.3GHz i7 Quad-Core/ 8GB RAM / 256GB SSD? I've tried making adjustments to a short RAW clip from the BMCC and it seems that, unless I am doing something wrong, Resolve is unusable. I don't expect (or even need) real-time playback of 2.5k RAW files, but it takes ages for any image adjustments to show in the preview window. The UI isn't sluggish though, so maybe I just need to tweak some setting?



Wonder if the 15" Retina MacBook Pro / 2.3GHz i7 Quad-Core/ 8GB RAM / 256GB SSD is enough to edit prores files. At least I dont intend to shoot RAW.



I use a 15' Retina 2.3GHz i7 16G / 256GB with no issues at all in Resolve or FCPX
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Re: Apple and BMCC

PostFri Nov 01, 2013 2:12 pm

Now the Windows laptops have Thunderbolt, any chance that Ultrascope will work on them? or still a Mac only program.

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