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Music Clip Shot on the 2.5k

PostPosted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 3:09 am
by Nilscrompton
Hello All,

Just thought I'd share a music clip I've directed, shot on the 2.5k using Samyang Cine lenses:


Cheers,
Nils

Re: Music Clip Shot on the 2.5k

PostPosted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 6:16 am
by David Regenthal
I like everything about that (including the song).
Very creative, well shot, really good pace . . . thanks for posting.

Re: Music Clip Shot on the 2.5k

PostPosted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 6:24 am
by Nilscrompton
Thanks man, nice to hear, you never really know what you've made by the end of post production...

Re: Music Clip Shot on the 2.5k

PostPosted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 8:39 am
by Manu Gil
Very good. I like. Thanks for sharing.

Re: Music Clip Shot on the 2.5k

PostPosted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 11:00 am
by Darko Djerich
Nice +1

Re: Music Clip Shot on the 2.5k

PostPosted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 6:45 pm
by georgetsirogiannis
Great, well done!

The only thing I have to ask, those flares on the astronaut's suit, they were added in post, right?

Re: Music Clip Shot on the 2.5k

PostPosted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 9:45 pm
by Nilscrompton
Yeah, Video Copilot mini-anamorphic preset, tracked in Mocha AE, bit of roto for an obscuration layer. We really should've put real lights in there for the shoot to at least get some interaction with the scene... Next time. There's a great clip called Winner with Brendan McLean that uses on camera filters for the flares, looks great...

Re: Music Clip Shot on the 2.5k

PostPosted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 10:47 pm
by georgetsirogiannis
Yeap, that's the only thing I didn't really like about the video. The Video Copilot products have been overused, especially the flares. Let's exclude Elements which has and will forever have the same amount of value because of its multipurpose use ability. :)

Re: Music Clip Shot on the 2.5k

PostPosted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 11:00 pm
by Luxwhite
I love the austronaut suit!! Lol

Re: Music Clip Shot on the 2.5k

PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 12:08 am
by Nilscrompton
georgetsirogiannis wrote:The Video Copilot products have been overused, especially the flares. Let's exclude Elements which has and will forever have the same amount of value because of its multipurpose use ability. :)


That's a fair criticism. I had originally intended to make the astronaut a hologram, but we didn't shoot enough clean plates and the amount of roto hours was just too daunting, so i went for a quick fix to give him some thing a little other-worldly. I'm hoping the general public aren't as attuned to the trends as crafts people... Its probably not helped by the fact they're so close to a preset. I don't mind the 'fakeness' of them in context with the costumes and story though...

Re: Music Clip Shot on the 2.5k

PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 9:23 am
by Benjamin Klingebiel
awesome! i love it!

Re: Music Clip Shot on the 2.5k

PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 9:45 am
by Hugh Antonio
As a potential Black Magic 2.5k customer. I'm forever looking for good footage and videos shot with this camera. I'm well impressed with the quality of your Video and the low light capabilities of the camera as I saw little noise in the Dark areas. I'm wondering how to managed to pull off the slow mo effect, which was one of the aspects I had reservations about as the camera only shoots up to 30fps. Great Video

Re: Music Clip Shot on the 2.5k

PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 9:56 am
by Richard Oakes
Very nice! Lovely colour!

Re: Music Clip Shot on the 2.5k

PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 4:31 am
by Nilscrompton
nomoneyforbeer wrote:I'm well impressed with the quality of your Video and the low light capabilities of the camera as I saw little noise in the Dark areas. I'm wondering how to managed to pull off the slow mo effect, which was one of the aspects I had reservations about as the camera only shoots up to 30fps. Great Video


In terms of timing settings, the entire film was shot 2.4k Raw 30fps 216• shutter (sharper and no flicker in 50hz lighting) then was conformed to 25p in resolve before creating proxies for offline. The half speed shot of the astronaut playing basket ball was a twixtor effect at 50% with no manual clean up. I feel the 30-25 slow down is enough to take the edge off without being too obvious. Personally the iPhone 5s 120fps has killed slow-mo as a wow inducing special effect for me. It's just another tool in the bag now, and I feel I can make the bmcc work for 'storytelling level' slow mo if I need it to, or just hire an FS700 for that odd job that is all about time stopping still.

Exposure wise we were trying to ETTR but the image on the LCD really threw us and often we're swayed to make it look nice on the screen. So ultimately most shots were underexposed (as far as the sensor dynamics are concerned). We shot at T2.0 - T3.0 rating the sensor at 800 ASA, but should've gone wide open and 400 ASA and ived with the bit of bloom the Samyangs give at that aperture. Consequently everything had some NR applied to just the chroma channels in Resolve usually a radius of 2. So the camera can do much better than this in terms of noise. I'd advocate rating the camera at 400ASA to avoid this, as Captain Hook was suggesting in a class he ran in Sydney yesterday.

Re: Music Clip Shot on the 2.5k

PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 7:18 am
by Margus Voll
Very nice to see story line filmed.

Big change to "look my ...." videos.

I wonder if it would helped to film still on 800 and f2 but pushed light some more
so that the noise would not emerge. Did not see it much in youtube as compression kills it.

Now as everyone has cam there is the time to make outstanding stories and
fine tune the craft.

Nice work.

Re: Music Clip Shot on the 2.5k

PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 7:33 am
by georgetsirogiannis
nilsio wrote:
georgetsirogiannis wrote:The Video Copilot products have been overused, especially the flares. Let's exclude Elements which has and will forever have the same amount of value because of its multipurpose use ability. :)


That's a fair criticism. I had originally intended to make the astronaut a hologram, but we didn't shoot enough clean plates and the amount of roto hours was just too daunting, so i went for a quick fix to give him some thing a little other-worldly. I'm hoping the general public aren't as attuned to the trends as crafts people... Its probably not helped by the fact they're so close to a preset. I don't mind the 'fakeness' of them in context with the costumes and story though...

Don't get me wrong though, apart from those flares (which is just a small technical detail), it's a great clip!