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Costa wrote:

Andrew Deme wrote:

Costa wrote:
I'm not. I know it shocks me too!

I have seen many of your posts and you have an excellent sense of humor, but have to say you do seem to consistently come out with more than your fair share of conspiracy theories.

If you had to compliment BMD on just one thing, without an ounce of criticism and in all seriousness...what would it be ?

Good question. I would say price.

Andrew Deme wrote:To be fair to Costa, the question was...just one thing.....price makes sense.

John Brawley wrote:

nivou wrote:Great update Mr. Grant Petty I truly appreciate that; however I could not understand why you didn’t stick with the first assembly or glass supplier who delivered the first batch of sensors which was good. It was about cost cutting? I hope everything work out well so me and many other people around the world can get the BMCC in our hands before 2013. Also I hope that Greece is not at the bottom of the shipping list.

Regards,

Nikos

I think you'll find the glass vendor was changed without BMD's knowledge.

jb

Andrew Deme wrote:To be fair to Costa, the question was...just one thing.....price makes sense.

nivou wrote: What will happen if there’s a problem with the camera or need a service, will that be possible, in how many days? I really believe that if something needs to be fixed in the camera, it will be a long wait process.

Phoenix28 wrote:

Andrew Deme wrote:To be fair to Costa, the question was...just one thing.....price makes sense.

Yes, i understood that...but I took his answer as if it was hard to find a compliment to make to BMD ... and then it was also referred to all his other posts. Again, it's just curiosity, really.

John Brawley wrote:

nivou wrote: What will happen if there’s a problem with the camera or need a service, will that be possible, in how many days? I really believe that if something needs to be fixed in the camera, it will be a long wait process.

Sure.

I was answering a different question.

If you have a doubt then don't buy it. It's pretty simple. BMD have to earn your trust.

jb

nivou wrote:

John Brawley wrote:

nivou wrote:Great update Mr. Grant Petty I truly appreciate that; however I could not understand why you didn’t stick with the first assembly or glass supplier who delivered the first batch of sensors which was good. It was about cost cutting? I hope everything work out well so me and many other people around the world can get the BMCC in our hands before 2013. Also I hope that Greece is not at the bottom of the shipping list.

Regards,

Nikos

I think you'll find the glass vendor was changed without BMD's knowledge.

jb

Yes but its BMD’s responsibility. You cannot blame the sailor; the captain is responsible for the boat. Bottom line, with all this delays and issues, I really concern about camera support when it will be finally out there. What will happen if there’s a problem with the camera or need a service, will that be possible, in how many days? I really believe that if something needs to be fixed in the camera, it will be a long wait process.

Margus Voll wrote:It seems people are into this camera for wrong reasons ?

What i meant if someone is worrying about service they could get many of them.

One fails you take second one.

At least that is my plan to go to have some more on my shelf.
This is how IT and server people do things, you have some extra on the self to have redundancy.

Pete Proniewicz-Brooks wrote:

nivou wrote:
Yes but its BMD’s responsibility. You cannot blame the sailor; the captain is responsible for the boat. Bottom line, with all this delays and issues, I really concern about camera support when it will be finally out there. What will happen if there’s a problem with the camera or need a service, will that be possible, in how many days? I really believe that if something needs to be fixed in the camera, it will be a long wait process.

You most emfatically can blame the sailor. This does not absolve the Captain, but just because ultimately he/she is responsible for the end result, doesnt absolve those beneeth him from the consqences of their actions.

Random wrote:Get a refund and find Jesus.

wcapps1 wrote:

Random wrote:Get a refund and find Jesus.

Ha ha, this place is a hoot!

mhood wrote:Laugh or cry all you want to but I still want at least an inkling of an idea what "full volume" is.

Pete Proniewicz-Brooks wrote:

mhood wrote:Laugh or cry all you want to but I still want at least an inkling of an idea what "full volume" is.

for most 10, but this one goes up to 11........

mhood wrote:

Pete Proniewicz-Brooks wrote:

mhood wrote:Laugh or cry all you want to but I still want at least an inkling of an idea what "full volume" is.

for most 10, but this one goes up to 11........

Billy Gibbons won't touch an amp that doesn't go up to 11. Bugs Henderson used to get all his amps modified to at least 11...some higher.

taapo wrote:I shut up and wait. Some of you do have so much time on their hands to complain on this forum (and BMCUser) that I'm actually start to wonder if you are not rotten-spoiled kids that want to "play director", instead of being serious cinematographers looking for the best camera for the best buck.

taapo wrote:Costa, once upon a time in the past I agreed with you ... when the first delay started. Then I found out it's futile to keep complaining. You just clutter this forum every frikkin minute with your stance on how BMD should do things. We have heard you, loud and clearly ... believe me.

Indeed, I'd rather have you read a book than having BMD closing this forum thanks to your bitching and moaning. When my stuff renders, I continue working on other stuff on another or the same workstation. Since you seem to have only one workstation which crumbles under the load of rendering, it's maybe a good idea to revise your business strategy and earn more money for a second station instead of complaining on this forum? Just a thought, my lord.

* Btw, since you reacted so swiftly I directed my stance towards you. It's not only you probably, but I have no time to wade through pages of venom to find out who I should target

David wrote:This place is nothing but daisies and sunshine for me!

Though in all honesty I am partial to denial.

Costa wrote:Thanks for the advice. We actually do work for the educational sector which pays less money than normal corporate or broadcast stuff, but we like to give something back to the community in which we live so it is a choice to go down this route. Do we have more money for another workstation? Not right now, but we don't need one. My work colleague works on the other one! If you think I do not work hard enough then please feel free to say that, but I do not mind as I know this is not true.

David wrote:Taapo, I sympathise with you completely . But might I point out the friends and foes list in the control panel of your account. It's awesome! I found it the other day and now I LOVE this forum.

Of the 120 or so comments on this thread already, I can only see about 30 of them. All lovely enforcing comments.

This place is nothing but daisies and sunshine for me!

Though in all honesty I am partial to denial.

taapo wrote:

Costa wrote:Thanks for the advice. We actually do work for the educational sector which pays less money than normal corporate or broadcast stuff, but we like to give something back to the community in which we live so it is a choice to go down this route. Do we have more money for another workstation? Not right now, but we don't need one. My work colleague works on the other one! If you think I do not work hard enough then please feel free to say that, but I do not mind as I know this is not true.

Argh, no reasoning with an over-educat(ed/ing) troll. Nice to know that you have the freedom to spend the little money you have as an organisation ... on time that allows you to bitch and moan on issues you can't control. I hope at least that you are not funded by taxpayers money ...

taapo wrote:

David wrote:Taapo, I sympathise with you completely . But might I point out the friends and foes list in the control panel of your account. It's awesome! I found it the other day and now I LOVE this forum.

Of the 120 or so comments on this thread already, I can only see about 30 of them. All lovely enforcing comments.

This place is nothing but daisies and sunshine for me!

Though in all honesty I am partial to denial.

Oh, nice tip. Finally I can get rid of the clutter. Thanks!

David wrote:Oh, I LOVE ponies!!!!

RockhopperVFX wrote:The camera should have a first edition plate on it. In years to come the first edition cameras will have some more value, as part of the BMD history. A sort of medal of tolerance for your customers. Or something to say thanks for hanging in there.

Art Roberts wrote:Message to Mr Perry

Dear Sir, in all sincerity, you have let your customers down. This is because they have noticed a trend in this kind of behavior regarding some of your previously released products; the BMCC is no different. Look, there is no doubt you always have a good idea about a product, and your hunch has worked well for you, but this is not the way to run a successful manufcturing company - despite its size. Blackmagic will be better off if they hire a competent CEO to look into these shortcomings, of course you will still remain as the brain of the company with whatever title you so desire. As a tip I will leave you with this advice - that definitive technicalities and modalities are worked out - well ahead of time, with all third parties involved held to their bonds, even before product announcements, bearing in mind the company's reputation. Yes, other companies like Red also did it, but thats no excuse to keep your customers in suspense like this. You mean, even after detecting sensor errors in the second batch, you still trusted and allowed them time to detect what the actual issue was. In the words of Donald Trump, "YOU ARE FIRED".

rawCAM35 wrote:

Art Roberts wrote:Message to Mr Perry

Dear Sir, in all sincerity, you have let your customers down. This is because they have noticed a trend in this kind of behavior regarding some of your previously released products; the BMCC is no different. Look, there is no doubt you always have a good idea about a product, and your hunch has worked well for you, but this is not the way to run a successful manufcturing company - despite its size. Blackmagic will be better off if they hire a competent CEO to look into these shortcomings, of course you will still remain as the brain of the company with whatever title you so desire. As a tip I will leave you with this advice - that definitive technicalities and modalities are worked out - well ahead of time, with all third parties involved held to their bonds, even before product announcements, bearing in mind the company's reputation. Yes, other companies like Red also did it, but thats no excuse to keep your customers in suspense like this. You mean, even after detecting sensor errors in the second batch, you still trusted and allowed them time to detect what the actual issue was. In the words of Donald Trump, "YOU ARE FIRED".

"Before speaking out ask yourself whether your words are true, whether they are respectful and whether they are needed in our civil discussions."
Justice O'Connor

Luke Armstrong wrote:+1
Grant Petty deserves some respect. Blackmagic Design is his company, he founded it, and he is the best man to run it given his engineering background. I'm less than pleased with the situation but he and his employees don't deserve this kind of abuse.

Kholi wrote:For certain, Blackmagic employees and representatives must have the kind of thick hide that most of the people in this creative industry should have.

Luke Armstrong wrote:Grant Petty deserves some respect. Blackmagic Design is his company, he founded it, and he is the best man to run it given his engineering background. I'm less than pleased with the situation but he and his employees don't deserve this kind of abuse.

Taikonaut wrote:Grant and his team may be innovating engineers and good at it and I agree he does deserve some respect in that context. Now being an engineer does not automatically means being a sound businessmen running a factory overseeing top down mass production of a popular product, that requires another set of skills outside of being an engineer. So in those context BMD management falls well short of doing a good job.

Dimitrios Papagiannis wrote:if you had pre-ordered a BMCC, what would you expect from Blackmagic as acceptable compensation for this ordeal.