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List Your Complete/Intended BMCC Setup

PostTue Nov 13, 2012 4:58 am

***I have created this topic just so everyone can get all the information they require with one click - instead of going through pages and pages of created topics***

Can I ask everyone to list the complete setup they're using or planning to use once they receive their Blackmagic Cinema Camera - this includes;

1. Lens Choices
2. Solid State Drives
3. Battery Solutions
4. Storage
5. Data Transfer
6. Audio Recording
7. Camera Rigs
8. Tripods, Dollys & Stands
9. Lighting Options

List maybe 1 or 2 of each, just name of the item or URL link - this will simply point people in the right direction. Cheers
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Re: List Your Complete/Intended BMCC Setup

PostTue Nov 13, 2012 5:17 am

Tokina 11-16mm F/2.8 Pro for Canon EF Mount
Zeiss Distagon T* 21mm f/2.8 ZE Lens for Canon EF Mount
or
Voigtlander NOKTON 17.5mm f0.95 for Micro 4/3 Micro Four-Thirds Mount
SLR Magic Hyper Prime 12mm f/1.6 for Micro 4/3 Micro Four-Thirds Mount

SanDisk SDSSDX-240G-G25 240GB Extreme SATA III 6G 2.5in Internal SSD

Switronix PB70-BMCC - Lithium-ion Battery Pack 70wh/14.8v

Litepanel Ringlite Mini Kit (For Run & Gun Purposes)

Seagate GoFlex Thunderbolt Adapter


I'm still reviewing my choices regarding tripods/dollys/stands (unsure) & camera rig/cage setup (most likely contineo or wooden camera) - but I would really like to hear some of the audio recording setups people are going for...
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Re: List Your Complete/Intended BMCC Setup

PostTue Nov 13, 2012 5:23 am

Never left the house with out one of this

Pocket Dolly v2.0 - Standard (Length - 39.5")
http://www.kesslercrane.com/product-p/100159.htm
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Re: List Your Complete/Intended BMCC Setup

PostTue Nov 13, 2012 5:27 am

Rocket wrote:Never left the house with out one of this

Pocket Dolly v2.0 - Standard (Length - 39.5")
http://www.kesslercrane.com/product-p/100159.htm



I think I'll be adding that to my list :D

Came across a few, but I do think this kessler pocket dolly offers the right quality at the right price point for me.
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Re: List Your Complete/Intended BMCC Setup

PostTue Nov 13, 2012 6:06 am

Rocket wrote:Never left the house with out one of this

Pocket Dolly v2.0 - Standard (Length - 39.5")
http://www.kesslercrane.com/product-p/100159.htm


For all those considering the kessler pocket dolly - here's the perfect item to compliment that...
http://www.kesslercrane.com/product-p/100078.htm
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Re: List Your Complete/Intended BMCC Setup

PostTue Nov 13, 2012 6:39 am

This was brought to my attention by Frank Glencairn under another topic, thought this might be helpful, some will already be aware... JuicedLink Riggy Assist RA222 for audio recording - phantom power option:

http://www.juicedlink.com/audio-preamps ... ggy-assist
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Re: List Your Complete/Intended BMCC Setup

PostTue Nov 13, 2012 8:04 am

For all those considering the kessler pocket dolly - here's the perfect item to compliment that...
http://www.kesslercrane.com/product-p/100078.htm[/quote]


It seems extremely solid. Over 200 kg load tolerance.
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Re: List Your Complete/Intended BMCC Setup

PostTue Nov 13, 2012 9:16 am

1. Lens Choices
Leica 19mm 2.8 Version 2
Leica Summicron 35mm 2.0
Leica Summicron 50mm 2.0
Rokinon 35mm 1.4
If I ever get the MFT version I have a SLR Magic Hyperprime 12mm 1.6 & Olympus 38mm 1.8

2. Solid State Drives
(2) Sandisk Extreme 480 SSD
(1) Kingston 240 SSD

3. Battery Solutions
(2) Switchronix Powerbase 70

4. Storage
Still debating, likely...
(1) Drobo 5D
8tb G-Raid Drives

5. Data Transfer
Not sure yet. Help?

6. Audio Recording
Sound Devices 664 Recorder/Mixer
H4N Zoom (as backup)
Sanken CS3e Shotgun Microphone
(2) Sennheiser G3 Wireless w/ (2) Sanken COS11D lavs

7. Camera Rigs
Viewfactor Cage w/ Top Handle
Gini Extreme 17 Rig

8. Tripods, Dollys & Stands
Need to upgrade, looking at getting a Manfrotto or cheap Pearstone 2500

9. Lighting Options
(1) Kino Diva 400
(1) Arri 650w
(1) LED 600
Kino Practicals (Daylight & Tungsten)
Eventually Kino Gaffer's Kit
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Re: List Your Complete/Intended BMCC Setup

PostTue Nov 13, 2012 1:19 pm

5. Data Transfer
Not sure yet. Help?


This is one of the better options I've come across so far... Seagate GoFlex Thunderbolt Adapter:

http://www.seagate.com/external-hard-dr ... underbolt/
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Re: List Your Complete/Intended BMCC Setup

PostTue Nov 13, 2012 1:40 pm

And Mike thanks for that post - one of the standouts from that list - for all those who have not yet decided on a good camera rig at a good price point - here's the GINIRIG EXTREME 17:

http://ginirigs.com/extreme-17/

http://www.ginirigs.co.uk/75-new-extrem ... eight.html
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Re: List Your Complete/Intended BMCC Setup

PostTue Nov 13, 2012 3:14 pm

About data transfer! I'm on a Mac Pro so thunderbolt is out of the question. What I did was to install two raided SSD disks in my computer and one empty SSD-slot that can take the disc from my camera. That way I copy the video to the raided discs while I'm working on it with maximal speed and keep backup copys on external harddrives with firewire 800. Seems to me like the fastest option for Mac Pro users but then again, we'll see when the camera eventually shows up, wont we?

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Re: List Your Complete/Intended BMCC Setup

PostTue Nov 13, 2012 3:23 pm

Actually internal buses will limit all ssd speed so you may as well have 4 internal drives for media.

1 optical drive bay for os and 2 bay for ssd.

it will probably help to have os on ssd. i have even striped 2 ssd's but i see not big gain in speed.
i bet internal bus kills it.
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Re: List Your Complete/Intended BMCC Setup

PostTue Nov 13, 2012 3:47 pm

Intended:
1x BMCC (EF Mount version, hopefully it ships soon...)
1x Tokina 11-16mm F/2.8 Pro for Canon EF Mount

Already bought or owned before:
1x SanDisk 480G-G25 480GB Extreme SATA III 6G 2.5in Internal SSD
1x IcyBox 2.5" SSD/HDD USB3.0 enclosure (will just use the connection)
1x Switronix PB70-BMCC - Lithium-ion Battery Pack 70wh/14.8v
1x Rode VideoMic
1x Canon 24-105mm F/4 IS "L" lens
1x Carl Zeiss Jena 35mm F2.4 M42 Manual Focus Screw Mount lens (as well as several others, but I have a feeling this one will be great for portraits on the BMCC, equal to 80.5mm on Full-Frame)
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Re: List Your Complete/Intended BMCC Setup

PostTue Nov 13, 2012 4:27 pm

1. Lens Choices

Samyang Cine Primes plus what ever PL glass I can adapt to the EF version initially.

2. Solid State Drives

3x Kingston V+200 240Gb

3. Battery Solutions

Global Media Pro V Lock batteries with Chinese Vlock plate.

4. Storage

What ever hard drive is cheapest $/Gb

5. Data Transfer

Davinci Resolve Tower

6. Audio Recording

Hire a competent recordist. They are worth the money.

7. Camera Rigs

Viewfactor Cage

8. Tripods, Dollys & Stands

Satchler CineDSLR, rent a heavier head as required.

9. Lighting Options

Red head kit, rent other lights as required.
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Re: List Your Complete/Intended BMCC Setup

PostWed Nov 28, 2012 8:57 pm

This is another shoulder rig option from SHOOT35.COM

http://www.shoot35.com/products/special ... frame.html
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Re: List Your Complete/Intended BMCC Setup

PostWed Nov 28, 2012 10:23 pm

1) zeiss lwz.2 15.5-40 T2.6
2) Crucial 512 GB m4
3) still researching
4) bay of harddrives
5) still researching
6) JuicedLink 4-Channel DSLR Camera Microphone Preamplifier - sennheiser 3g wireless.
7) still researching
8) what i currently have, manfrotto legs, camera slider, shoulder rig, looking into tracks.
9) 1x1 led lights. daylight temp of course.
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Re: List Your Complete/Intended BMCC Setup

PostWed Nov 28, 2012 10:52 pm

1.)
- Samyang Cine 8mm T4
- Samyang Cine14mm T 2.9
- Samyang Cine 24mm T1.5
- Zeiss CP.2 35mm T2.1
- Zeiss CP.2 50mm T2.1
- Zeiss CP.2 85mm T2.1

2.)
- OCZ Vertex 3 240GB (x4)

3.)
- Tilta V-Lock Distribution pate on 15mm Rods

4.)
- Lacie 4TB Big Drive

5.)
- Seagate SSD Tunderbolt Sled

6.)
- Juicelink Riggy or Wooden Camera A-Box and a Soundman

7.)
- Vocus Shoulder Rig, Grips and MB-430 Matte Box

8.)
- Miller Arrow 40 Head

9.)
- Rental House
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Re: List Your Complete/Intended BMCC Setup

PostThu Nov 29, 2012 6:38 am

Research is currently pointing me towards the following, pending the arrival of the BMC EF Mount:

LENSES AND FILTERS:
Tokina 11-16mm f2.8 DSRL Lens
Samyang 24mm t1.5 Cine Lens
Samyang 35mm t1.5 Cine Lens
Samyang 50mm Cine Lens (when/if available)
Samyang 85mm t1.5 Cine Lens
Tiffen White Water 77mm ND filters .3-1.2ND x4
Tiffen White Water 77mm IRND filter 1.2 ND
Tiffen 72 to 77mm step-up ring

IN-CAMERA MEDIA STORAGE:
SanDisk Extreme 480 GB SSD x1
SanDisk Extreme 240 GB SSD x2

DATA TRANSFER:
Seagate GoFlex Thunderbolt SSD dock

CAMERA SUPPORT – HANDHELD/VERITE:
Lanparte Pro Kit (shoulder rig, Matte Box, Follow Focus, battery, 7" onboard)
http://www.ozirigpro.com.au/lanparte-co ... ional-kit/

AUDIO FIELD RECORDER:
Tascam DR680 – 6 discreet inputs

MICS & AUDIO ACCESSORIES:
Rentals as needed

LIGHTING:
Rentals as needed – LEDs, Kino, practicals

EDITORIAL STORAGE:
G-Tech 6TB Raid 0 Media Drive
Western Digital 4TB USB 3 Backup Drives x4 (or as needed)
LTO 5 Rental for Project Archive

NLE:
Adobe CS 6.x Creative Cloud Subscription
Apple FCPX (dbl system multi-track audio clip syncing)

GRADING:
Resolve 9.x

AUDIO POST:
Adobe Audition (see Creative Cloud)

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Re: List Your Complete/Intended BMCC Setup

PostThu Nov 29, 2012 12:35 pm

1. Lens Choices
Either Tokina 11-16mm 2.8 (can use ND filters on)
Or Sigma 8-16mm
Thinking about the Samyang 24mm 1.4 as a replacement of the old fast 50mm (what do you guys think?)
2. Solid State Drives
Any 256gb that's listed ;p
3. Battery Solutions
http://www.ikancorp.com/productlisting.php?id=128
probably one of these ikan plates.

Help me decide on the sony L series of Bp-u ones? (different ikan-plate)
What are the pro's and con's
4. Storage
just some external hdd's already on my computer.
5. Data Transfer
SSD-Dock through e-sata
6. Audio Recording
Zoom H1 for now
7. Camera Rigs
http://r.ebay.com/LBFchf

8. Tripods, Dollys & Stands
Prolly the konova 80mm k2 roller bearing slider
9. Lighting Options
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Re: List Your Complete/Intended BMCC Setup

PostThu Nov 29, 2012 6:12 pm

Canon EFS 17-55 2.8 IS, Rokinon 35mm T/1.5 cine, Rokinon 14mm T/3.1 cine, EF 100 2.8 IS Macro, EF 70-200 2.8 IS II

(3) Sandisk Extreme 480 SSD

Switronix PB70-BMCC

Promise 4 disk array

Seagate goflex adapter

Redrock Micro rail/FF/matte box
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Re: List Your Complete/Intended BMCC Setup

PostThu Nov 29, 2012 6:49 pm

I have preordered a MFT mount so for me:
Lenses
Lomo 35mm cinema lenses 18 to 150mm and OPF 25-80 zoom (PL mount). Those lenses are for S35, not for photography.

cage&rigs:
Contineo cage for BMCC http://www.viewfactor.com
Lanparte rig http://www.ebay.com/itm/lanparte-Suitca ... 1c2c182572

Power:
BMC Anton Bauer Hinged Battery Mount from viewfactor
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Re: List Your Complete/Intended BMCC Setup

PostSat Dec 08, 2012 6:26 pm

My BMCC setup

1. Lens Choices
ZEISS EF
18mm f3, 25mm f2.8, 35mm f2, 50mm f1.4, 85mm f1.4 and 100mm f
CANON L
14mm f2.8, 24mm TS, 24-70mm f2.8
SAMYANG CineLens
8mm t3.8 fisheye, 14mm t3.1, 24mm t1.5, 35mm t1.5, 85mm t1.5
SAMYANG PhotoLens
500mm f6.3 mirror lens, 800mm f8 mirror lens

2. Solid State Drives
No SSD, waiting for my camera.

3. Battery Solutions
two SWITRONIX Powerbase 70 Battery
SWITRONIX Powerbase 70 Contact Block for Blackmagic
SWITRONIX Powerbase Charger

4. Storage
DROBO S

5. Data Transfer
CRUCIAL Hard Drive to SSD data transfer Cable, very simple but very efficient.

6. Audio Recording
WOODEN CAMERA A-Box for Blackmagic Camera,
MARANTZ PMD 661 Portable Flash Field Recorder
SENNHEISER ME66/K6 Condenser microphone

7. Camera Rigs
WOODEN CAMERA Camera Cage for Blackmagic Camera
MANFROTTO SYMPLA with variable plate.

8. Tripods, Dollys & Stands
MANFROTTO 504HD Head with 546GBK Tripod
MANFROTTO MH055M8-Q5 Photo-Movie Head with 055XPROB Tripod

9. Lighting Options
no lights.
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Re: List Your Complete/Intended BMCC Setup

PostSat Dec 08, 2012 8:54 pm

Nice rig Alexandre, I have made some similar decision..

Here goes my setup..

BMCC EF version

Sigma
8-16mm -> already purchased

ZEISS EF
35mm f1.4, 50mm f1.4, 85mm f1.4 -> already purchased

CANON L
24-70mm f2.8 mk1 -> already purchased, still hope they make it work, otherwise I change it

Mattebox, Followfocus, Shouldermount from Proaim -> already purchased

RØDE NTG2 shotgun microphone -> already purchased


Battery Solutions same as Alexandre:
1 SWITRONIX Powerbase 70 Battery included Contact Block for Blackmagic -> purchased
1 SWITRONIX Powerbase Charger -> purchased

Light and cheap Manfrotto Tripod -> already purchased
I purchased MANFROTTO 504HD Head with 546GBK Tripod 1 month ago with a really good deal on Amazon but it was too heavy for my usage, I had to give up on it.


So I'm ready to go!!!

Cheers
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Re: List Your Complete/Intended BMCC Setup

PostSat Dec 08, 2012 11:05 pm

Lenses will change, but here is my intended setup for the most part.

I already have:

  • Viewfactor Contineo Cage
  • Viewfactor Top Handle
  • Viewfactor MultiForce Rod Plate for tripod mounting the rig in a balanced position
  • Viewfactor IDX Battery Mount

I intend to get:

  • Handle bars for shoulder rig (maybe the Tilta ones)
  • Shoulder pad for shoulder rig
  • A decent tripod and fluid head of sorts. Damn they get expensive quick.

I'd like a 3ft pocket dolly or some sort of smooth slider but they're a $$$ investment for any decent ones.
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Re: List Your Complete/Intended BMCC Setup

PostMon Dec 17, 2012 4:16 am

For EF mount BMCC

Prime Lenses
Nikon AI-s 28mm f2.0
Nikon AI-s 105mm f2.8 macro
Carl Zeiss zf.2 35mm f2.0
Carl Zeiss zf.2 50mm f1.4

Zoom Lenses
Tokina 11-16mm f2.8
Nikon D-IF 20-35mm f2.8
Canon 70-200mm f2.8L IS II

Filtration
Tiffen 77mm ND Set: 3, 6, 9, 1.2
Tiffen 77mm Polarizer
Tiffen 77mm Ultra Clear (x 2)
Tiffen filter pouch (x 2)

Camera Support
Manfrotto 526 head with 546B sticks

Camera AKS
Wooden Camera BMC cage kit
Redrock micro Follow Focus
Movcam MM1 matte box
Noga Monitor Arm

Rigs
Redrock micro shoulder bundle

Power
Switronix Powerbase 70 batteries (x 2)
Switronix PB70C charger

Media
OCZ or Intel 240Gb SSD (x 2)
Voyager Q SSD dock

Monitoring
Alphatron HD-SDI/HDMI EVF
SmallHD DP6 SDI on-board monitor

Bags and Cases
1514 Pelican carry on flight cases (x 2)

Actually most of the gear is from my 5D/7D setup (new stuff would be SSDs and dock, cage, and alphatron EVF)
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Re: List Your Complete/Intended BMCC Setup

PostMon Dec 17, 2012 4:24 am

Nick Bedford wrote:Lenses will change, but here is my intended setup for the most part.

I already have:

  • Viewfactor Contineo Cage
  • Viewfactor Top Handle
  • Viewfactor MultiForce Rod Plate for tripod mounting the rig in a balanced position
  • Viewfactor IDX Battery Mount

I intend to get:

  • Handle bars for shoulder rig (maybe the Tilta ones)
  • Shoulder pad for shoulder rig
  • A decent tripod and fluid head of sorts. Damn they get expensive quick.

I'd like a 3ft pocket dolly or some sort of smooth slider but they're a $$$ investment for any decent ones.


Talking about TILTA. THey have now superincredible option. RUnner Rig (baseblate, rods, FF, off-set arm, shoulder pad) 660. SUpposed tobe 1300! I just got 2 of them.

And for you guys who are getting Rokinon. Just got my 8 and 14 from BH. Tested them on 5D and 7D. Was not so impressed. So will swap now for Tokina. On 14 starting to look nice, when you go down to f5.6 and 8mm even f8
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Re: List Your Complete/Intended BMCC Setup

PostMon Dec 17, 2012 3:09 pm

Ryan Best wrote:***I have created this topic just so everyone can get all the information they require with one click - instead of going through pages and pages of created topics***

2. Solid State Drives


Well it's obvious from the responses you are getting regarding SSDs, that almost everyone has taken your advice and not wasted their time reading the other topics here and on other forums regarding appropriate SSDs for the BMCC.

I'm so very weary of repeating myself so just read a few of the SSD threads before you commit to buying problematic SSDs as most respondents are planning to purchase. I can't understand the care everyone puts into all their other category responses and yet glosses over the single most critical component. Who cares how sharp your lens is or how steady your sticks if you haven't been able to record your images?

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Re: List Your Complete/Intended BMCC Setup

PostMon Dec 17, 2012 6:09 pm

OCZ SSDs aren't problematic Rick. In fact, they are kick ass.
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Re: List Your Complete/Intended BMCC Setup

PostMon Dec 17, 2012 7:33 pm

1. LENSES: Sigma 8-16mm. Sigma 17-50mm. Canon 70-200mm f/4. Rokinon 24mm 1.4. Rokinon 35mm 1.4. Rokinon 85mm 1.4. Canon 100mm 2.8. Tiffen Set.

2. SSD: 1x Sandisk extreme 480gb. 3x Sandisk extreme 240gb. (The 240's are not on the approved list but they work perfectly)

3.BATTERY: Vagabond Mini from Paul C Buff

4.STORAGE: Pegasus R4 8TB

5.DATA TRANSFER: NewerTech Voyager

6.AUDIO: Rode NTG-3 with Rode Blimp (Outdoor). Audix SCX1-HC (indoor dialog) Rode NT2-A (Voiceover) SD Mixpre-D. SD 722. k-tec 89cc boom.

7.CAMERA RIGS: Shoot35 Cinebox Matte Box (complete with buyers remorse) Lanparte Baseplate and Rails. $40 arc welder off craigslist to build a cage (to hell with paying that kind of money, just gonna man up and figure it out)

8. TRIPOD, DOLLIES etc: Manfrotto 504HD head. Manfrotto 546B Tripod. Manfrotto Lanc. (All in a bundle from BH) Konova K3 Slider. Glidecam HD4000. DIY pvc track with Cobracrane Dolly.

9. LIGHTING: Arri Softbank IV kit. Kino Flo Diva. Lowel DV kit. Couple mole-richardsons off ebay.

And that is every damn cent I'll spend. If I need anything else I'm just going to have to work around it or figure how to do it myself.
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Re: List Your Complete/Intended BMCC Setup

PostMon Dec 17, 2012 7:52 pm

Ruben Fernandez wrote:OCZ SSDs aren't problematic Rick. In fact, they are kick ass.


I'm happy if they work for you, Ruben. I have seen other anecdotal evidence where they have failed on the BMCC though so personally I feel safest with the Sandisk Extreme. No doubt there will be many more SSDs over time that will be proven to be great performers on the BMCC. Thanks for your feedback.

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Re: List Your Complete/Intended BMCC Setup

PostTue Dec 18, 2012 3:54 pm

I wish you lots of luck. You will need it.
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Re: List Your Complete/Intended BMCC Setup

PostTue Dec 18, 2012 4:54 pm

I'm kind of fascinated that all you guys are planing to add thousands of $ (and weight) to the camera. My planed setup is much simpler, I guess...

1. Lens Choices -> existing EF glass + maybe a Sigma 8-16mm (for those rare wide shots)
2. Solid State Drives -> existing 240/480GB drives (I'm an IT guy, got plenty of those around)
3. Battery Solutions -> Switronix BMCC solution
4. Storage -> existing
5. Data Transfer -> existing
6. Audio Recording -> none (if I need real sound, I get a sound guy)
7. Camera Rigs -> none (I want to keep it small and simple)
8. Tripods, Dollys & Stands -> existing Manfrotto tripod
9. Lighting Options -> none (if I need real light, I get a light guy)

For me this is a perfect B camera in bigger projects and a (much) better DSLR type of camera for small short films and such. I don't want to lugg around several pounds of additional stuff. I basically just want the camera with a lens. Unfortunately, due to BMs design choice, I HAVE to add a battery solution (which I'll just stuff in my jacket, no need for a rig).
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Re: List Your Complete/Intended BMCC Setup

PostWed Dec 19, 2012 10:54 am

Nick Bedford wrote:I'd like a 3ft pocket dolly or some sort of smooth slider but they're a $$$ investment for any decent ones.


http://konovaphoto.com/ I'll soon be the owner of the k2 version, since I've seen mostly good reviews on this roller bearing slider. 3ft one should run you about 230-250$. Or have you seen 'm already?
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Re: List Your Complete/Intended BMCC Setup

PostTue Dec 25, 2012 3:51 pm

New Camera Rig From IKAN - This may interest a few people, great price point for a rig like this, I've seen cheaper, but this has a venting plate specifically for the BMCC...

http://www.ikancorp.com/productdetail.php?id=613
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Re: List Your Complete/Intended BMCC Setup

PostTue Dec 25, 2012 3:57 pm

Here is a complete list (to date) of all IKAN products related to the BMCC... Rigs, Battery Solutions etc

http://www.ikancorp.com/productsearch.php?k=blackmagic
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Re: List Your Complete/Intended BMCC Setup

PostSun Dec 30, 2012 6:44 pm

remopini wrote:I'm kind of fascinated that all you guys are planing to add thousands of $ (and weight) to the camera. My planed setup is much simpler, I guess...

1. Lens Choices -> existing EF glass + maybe a Sigma 8-16mm (for those rare wide shots)
2. Solid State Drives -> existing 240/480GB drives (I'm an IT guy, got plenty of those around)
3. Battery Solutions -> Switronix BMCC solution
4. Storage -> existing
5. Data Transfer -> existing
6. Audio Recording -> none (if I need real sound, I get a sound guy)
7. Camera Rigs -> none (I want to keep it small and simple)
8. Tripods, Dollys & Stands -> existing Manfrotto tripod
9. Lighting Options -> none (if I need real light, I get a light guy)

For me this is a perfect B camera in bigger projects and a (much) better DSLR type of camera for small short films and such. I don't want to lugg around several pounds of additional stuff. I basically just want the camera with a lens. Unfortunately, due to BMs design choice, I HAVE to add a battery solution (which I'll just stuff in my jacket, no need for a rig).


Since the camera seems to have a lot of rolling shutter adding weight can only make it more stable to deal with it, don't you think? (Instead of handholding it like a dslr and battling with rolling shutter all over again).
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Re: List Your Complete/Intended BMCC Setup

PostSun Dec 30, 2012 10:39 pm

Ruben Fernandez wrote:
remopini wrote:I'm kind of fascinated that all you guys are planing to add thousands of $ (and weight) to the camera. My planed setup is much simpler, I guess...

1. Lens Choices -> existing EF glass + maybe a Sigma 8-16mm (for those rare wide shots)
2. Solid State Drives -> existing 240/480GB drives (I'm an IT guy, got plenty of those around)
3. Battery Solutions -> Switronix BMCC solution
4. Storage -> existing
5. Data Transfer -> existing
6. Audio Recording -> none (if I need real sound, I get a sound guy)
7. Camera Rigs -> none (I want to keep it small and simple)
8. Tripods, Dollys & Stands -> existing Manfrotto tripod
9. Lighting Options -> none (if I need real light, I get a light guy)

For me this is a perfect B camera in bigger projects and a (much) better DSLR type of camera for small short films and such. I don't want to lugg around several pounds of additional stuff. I basically just want the camera with a lens. Unfortunately, due to BMs design choice, I HAVE to add a battery solution (which I'll just stuff in my jacket, no need for a rig).


Since the camera seems to have a lot of rolling shutter adding weight can only make it more stable to deal with it, don't you think? (Instead of handholding it like a dslr and battling with rolling shutter all over again).


That is true if you wanted to have the camera mobile, even if you used a steadicam approach. But I think remopini intends to use a tripod or other stable gear as do I so a little less of an issue in terms of the rolling shutter compared to true handheld.


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Re: List Your Complete/Intended BMCC Setup

PostMon Dec 31, 2012 12:25 am

rick.lang wrote:
Ruben Fernandez wrote:
remopini wrote:I'm kind of fascinated that all you guys are planing to add thousands of $ (and weight) to the camera. My planed setup is much simpler, I guess...

1. Lens Choices -> existing EF glass + maybe a Sigma 8-16mm (for those rare wide shots)
2. Solid State Drives -> existing 240/480GB drives (I'm an IT guy, got plenty of those around)
3. Battery Solutions -> Switronix BMCC solution
4. Storage -> existing
5. Data Transfer -> existing
6. Audio Recording -> none (if I need real sound, I get a sound guy)
7. Camera Rigs -> none (I want to keep it small and simple)
8. Tripods, Dollys & Stands -> existing Manfrotto tripod
9. Lighting Options -> none (if I need real light, I get a light guy)

For me this is a perfect B camera in bigger projects and a (much) better DSLR type of camera for small short films and such. I don't want to lugg around several pounds of additional stuff. I basically just want the camera with a lens. Unfortunately, due to BMs design choice, I HAVE to add a battery solution (which I'll just stuff in my jacket, no need for a rig).


Since the camera seems to have a lot of rolling shutter adding weight can only make it more stable to deal with it, don't you think? (Instead of handholding it like a dslr and battling with rolling shutter all over again).


That is true if you wanted to have the camera mobile, even if you used a steadicam approach. But I think remopini intends to use a tripod or other stable gear as do I so a little less of an issue in terms of the rolling shutter compared to true handheld.


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Kinda limiting no? I would want to use a camera to the full extent of the cinematographic language. i don't think I can personally move the camera without a rig and an EVF, nor would I want to. Weight is one solution that contributes to minimize the rolling shutter issue, such as: http://www.hurlbutvisuals.com/blog/2012 ... -be-heavy/
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New Carbon Fiber Rig from Tilta

PostMon Dec 31, 2012 6:57 am

Not on the North American site yet, direct from China via Ebay:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/230904039178

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Re: List Your Complete/Intended BMCC Setup

PostWed Jan 02, 2013 5:00 am

I already posted my complete setup here..

The range 16-24mm is quite important I think and I'm still lacking a zoom there.

What is your opinion on the Canon EF 16-35mm 2.8 L II USM used for $620?
It was never mentioned, is there a better alternative in that range? Is it way better than the Tamron 17-50mm?

So far I have:
Sigma 8-16mm
Canon 24-70mm
Zeiss Ze 35 1.4
Zeiss Ze 50 1.4
Zeiss Ze 85 1.4

Thanks.
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PostWed Jan 02, 2013 5:15 am

Where did you buy this Zeiss Ze 55 1.4?
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Re: New Carbon Fiber Rig from Tilta

PostWed Jan 02, 2013 11:22 am

Darryl Gregory wrote:Where did you buy this Zeiss Ze 55 1.4?


Hehe, yes that was a mistake.
I cleaned up my post.



[quote="cabo"]Not on the North American site yet, direct from China via Ebay:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/230904039178

Wow, that one does look great in their renderings on the ebay site. So many mounting options.
Looks a bit like the tactical cage from RED: https://s3.amazonaws.com/red_3/uploads/ ... guredR.png

Cheers
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Re: List Your Complete/Intended BMCC Setup

PostWed Jan 02, 2013 12:23 pm

lenses
Tokina 11-16
Zeiss 21mm f2.8
Zeiss 25mm f 2.0
Zeiss 50mm f 1.4

Audio :
Rode ngt2-->Sounddivices mixpre --> Tascam dr-40

Monitor:
tvlogic vfm-056w


Mattebox:
Vocas 255

Power:Switronix pb-70

Rig:
dvtech multi rig pro.

SSD: One of the list on BMCC

Dock system :
Need advice I need one with firewire 800 no thunderbolt
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Re: New Carbon Fiber Rig from Tilta

PostFri Jan 04, 2013 5:25 am

Not on the North American site yet, direct from China via Ebay:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/230904039178

Wow, that one does look great in their renderings on the ebay site. So many mounting options.
Looks a bit like the tactical cage from RED: https://s3.amazonaws.com/red_3/uploads/ ... guredR.png

Cheers


I have that Tilta BMCC rig in my hands right now with the FF and mattebox (plus V-mount battery plate) and the BMCC is due here Monday. The rig itself is extremely nice. I'm looking forward to finally using the full setup next week on a multi-day shoot. Will report back.
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PostFri Jan 04, 2013 7:13 am

Mike Halerz wrote:
Not on the North American site yet, direct from China via Ebay:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/230904039178

Wow, that one does look great in their renderings on the ebay site. So many mounting options.
Looks a bit like the tactical cage from RED: https://s3.amazonaws.com/red_3/uploads/ ... guredR.png

Cheers


I have that Tilta BMCC rig in my hands right now with the FF and mattebox (plus V-mount battery plate) and the BMCC is due here Monday. The rig itself is extremely nice. I'm looking forward to finally using the full setup next week on a multi-day shoot. Will report back.


Damn those Tilta rigs look so nice. Are they rock solid? My arm/cage on my rig is a little loose/wobbly. I'm going to have to replace it with a Viewfactor cage or something.
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Re: New Carbon Fiber Rig from Tilta

PostFri Jan 04, 2013 7:37 am

PaulDelVecchio wrote:Damn those Tilta rigs look so nice. Are they rock solid? My arm/cage on my rig is a little loose/wobbly. I'm going to have to replace it with a Viewfactor cage or something.


Been very happy with our Tilta rig for the fs700. The BMCC rig is promising so far, too. Solid, generally well thought out. Not featherweight even with quite a few carbon fiber pieces, but not outrageously heavy either.

I have the rigs set up to be configurable from a very minimal setup to much more decked out - from handheld/shoulder to tripod - it's nice to have that flexibility.
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Re: New Carbon Fiber Rig from Tilta

PostFri Jan 04, 2013 10:08 am

Mike Halerz wrote:
Not on the North American site yet, direct from China via Ebay:
I have that Tilta BMCC rig in my hands right now with the FF and mattebox (plus V-mount battery plate) and the BMCC is due here Monday. The rig itself is extremely nice. I'm looking forward to finally using the full setup next week on a multi-day shoot. Will report back.

Where are you planning on putting the v-mount in relation to the menu, Mike? Will be ordering one of those tilta kits as well, but placing the battery and v-mount behind the screen as it is on their site looks like it could get a little awkward when it comes to accessing the menu between shots.

A way to mount the battery on the side of the rig during tripod use would be ideal. Anyone got any ideas? I think the bebob rig tries to raise the battery above the menu if I remember correctly but it still looked a little awkward.
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Re: New Carbon Fiber Rig from Tilta

PostFri Jan 04, 2013 3:15 pm

declanefoley wrote:Where are you planning on putting the v-mount in relation to the menu, Mike? Will be ordering one of those tilta kits as well, but placing the battery and v-mount behind the screen as it is on their site looks like it could get a little awkward when it comes to accessing the menu between shots.

A way to mount the battery on the side of the rig during tripod use would be ideal. Anyone got any ideas? I think the bebob rig tries to raise the battery above the menu if I remember correctly but it still looked a little awkward.


The battery mount is actually pretty flexible - it's hinged in a couple places. So, the pics they show with it tilted up and blocking the screen are pretty misleading in that it would be very easy to adjust so the battery was flat (perpendicular to the camera, parallel to the rods) and much more out of the way of the screen. Or, dropped down lower than the rods out back.

I'll be playing with getting the rig dialed in with the actual camera in it early next week and will let you know exactly what position(s) we settle on for different configurations.
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Re: New Carbon Fiber Rig from Tilta

PostSun Jan 06, 2013 4:19 pm

Mike Halerz wrote:
declanefoley wrote:I'll be playing with getting the rig dialed in with the actual camera in it early next week and will let you know exactly what position(s) we settle on for different configurations.


Wonder if you could include some shots of your different configurations. I like the sound of you transition from tripod to shoulder to really small handheld. Would like to see more detail. Did you get the dovetail?
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Re: New Carbon Fiber Rig from Tilta

PostSun Jan 06, 2013 9:58 pm

MarshallHarrington wrote:Wonder if you could include some shots of your different configurations. I like the sound of you transition from tripod to shoulder to really small handheld. Would like to see more detail. Did you get the dovetail?


I'll see what I can do. So, the BMCC rig itself came with two plates: one is relatively small and the other is a much longer, lightweight dovetail. Not sure which I'll be using more until I experiment a little bit with the camera on there.

The Tilta rig I use with the fs700 has a dedicated adjustable shoulder pad, so you can pretty much pull it off the tripod, clip the front handles on, and go handheld - but the BMCC specific rig doesn't have that shoulder pad. It looks like they have a couple options to add them, though, so I may do that at some point.
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