BMCC feature requests (post yours here)

1.delete clip option
2.frame rates 1-30 and 60fps for slow mo 120fps would be killer
3.apperature control on screen
4.lens stabilization (already done thanks)
5. Card formatting in camera
6.some type of phantom power even if its a separate device made by BM
7.work on a super wide L series lens w canon
8.work on viewfinder w zacuto ( glare issues )

> 2.frame rates 1-30 and 60fps for slow mo 120fps would be killer

+1

> 2.frame rates 1-30 and 60fps for slow mo 120fps would be killer

+1

I'd actually buy 2 cameras ,and tell everyone they should do the same

1. 4K (everyone else is going in that direction within the next year or so.) 4:2:2 or 4:4:4 (if possible)
2. Variable framerate up to 240 fps or higher (at higher framerate lower res could be accepted for instance 720P or similar.)
3. Keep up the good work so far.
4. Start shipping cameras so we can at least start playing around until you get point 1 and 2 fixed.
5. If you get 1 & 2 done you will give Canon and Red serious competition.

1. 4K (everyone else is going in that direction within the next year or so.) 4:2:2 or 4:4:4 (if possible)
2. Variable framerate up to 240 fps or higher (at higher framerate lower res could be accepted for instance 720P or similar.)
3. Keep up the good work so far.
4. Start shipping cameras so we can at least start playing around until you get point 1 and 2 fixed.
5. If you get 1 & 2 done you will give Canon and Red serious competition.

Not until they get a handle on number 4.

Not surprising, but even Philip Bloom wishes the BMCC firmware v.1.1 update had included on-screen VU meters!!!
http://twitter.com/PhilipBloom/status/2 ... 8530396161

Please, please, please BMD: Add basic audio monitoring (VU and/or peaking indicator) features to the next firmware ASAP! Thank you.

-Bluetooth (for either wireless camera sync, remote start stop, and for clip information input via android OS or IOS
-aspect ratio markers on screen
-usb3
-60fps or better @1080p or better

1. 4K (everyone else is going in that direction within the next year or so.) 4:2:2 or 4:4:4 (if possible)
2. Variable framerate up to 240 fps or higher (at higher framerate lower res could be accepted for instance 720P or similar.)
3. Keep up the good work so far.
4. Start shipping cameras so we can at least start playing around until you get point 1 and 2 fixed.
5. If you get 1 & 2 done you will give Canon and Red serious competition.

Wow. So basically you want a RED Epic?

It's all good to want these features, but seriously, is it even worth posting as a "BMDCC Feature Requests" post?

dispense cameras

Features that would hopefully be fixable by firmware update alone.

1. Delete Clips in Camera (Turn on or off)
2. Format SSD in Camera
3. Display F-stop and shutter speed with control
4. High Speed Frame Rates 60fps, 120fps at 1080p ProRes
5. Audio Meter
6. Recording space remaining
7. Timelapse function
8. 2.5k ProRes
9. On camera waveform, histogram
10. Custom White balance

1. Would LOVE to have 1080i output option via SDI to work with ATEM equipment.

Although I'd obviously much rather simply have my unit, if I was to ask for anything it would be:

(in order of importance to me)

• ProRes 12-bit 444 (little over 300mbps)
• At least 40fps, 50fps would be awesome but I know it's probably getting too fast for the BMCC
• Aperture Display
• VU Meter
• Custom frame rates down to 1fps

Not a feature request for BMCC;
but a proposal for a BMBC Blackmagic Broadcast Camera:

- same Sensor as BMCC
- a BMD-branded glass, affordable and best suited for broadcast applications
with autofocus; which mount? no idea... perhaps full electronic MFT?
- robust+balanced shoulder mount form factor
- easy to reach buttons for most used features
- 1080p/50/59.94
- ProResHQ
- DNxHD
- x264 based opensource version of H.264 High10 intra profile, aka 'AVC-Ultra'
- 4 SSD slots
- 3G-SDI (switchable: 1080p/50/59.94, 1080i/25/29.97, 720p750/59.94)
- HDMI (same)
- 2xXLR
- Timecode
- Genlock
- Build-in ATEM Camera Converter
- co-operation to incorporate Teradek Bolt technology for wireless transmission
- V-Mount Battery port
- D-Tap
- 4pin XLR for power
- BMBC complete price <= USD 7.000.-


Best regards,
Bernhard


\\\explanation for AVC-Ultra: EBU said 'AVC-Ultra' will be the next mastering standard;
'AVC-Intra' specs have been standardized which means everyone could implement
'H.264 High10 intra' that is compatible to the brand 'AVC-Intra';
would expect the same for the 'AVC-Ultra' branded H.264 specs

For me for using it on wildlife:

- 120fps at 2.5K (at least)
- 240 or 300 K at 1080p
- 10 seconds pre record memory
- auto-focus on canon lens, and focus trow screan toutching, like red epic

A wish for future models:

- ND filter 3 stops on the camera.

Please put "Stop Motion Capture" to the list.

If it is just a firmware upgrade, it should be a relativly small addition. A good bang for the buck.

I posted this subject in a separate Thread.

Ted Perkins

A spot meter function.

It´s not enough to only see what is clipped, you need to see where the exposure is within the picture -> if a face is too bright or too dark in relation to the rest of the picture for example or if I need to clip more highlights to get a proper overall exposure. It´s pure guesswork in the moment.

False colour would be even better but might m more difficult to add.

Probably a super niche market for this, but I would love to see a BMC Monochrome version at some point. It would be great to have a dedicated B&W camera at this price point.

All these features have a price increase...I hope people think about this...

super 35 and at least 60p and shoulder mount form facto for about...$10k would be fine!!!

My most wanted feature is to be able to delete clips in camera.

I really need that

Shots are easily ruined because of the environments I do my one man band shoots and being able to throw them away in camera would save so much on memory costs.

Sure you can use a laptop but most of the time it's enough of a hassle to move around all the other equipment and still focus on getting the shots right.

240 ssd are cheap. get many of them.

seems rather simple solution.

240 ssd are cheap. get many of them.

seems rather simple solution.

I'm not in a position to get many ssd's, 150 euro's a piece is still a lot to me.

Not to mention, aren't we in a digital age? Being able to delete clips should be one of the major advantages of shooting digital vs film.

If SSDs are too expensive, perhaps ProRes is a better option? Unless you plan to shoot a LOT of ProRes in one go?

If SSDs are too expensive, perhaps ProRes is a better option? Unless you plan to shoot a LOT of ProRes in one go?

Thats one possible work-around aswell.

I'm just worried that I'll run out too fast. Mostly I do 3-4 takes on a single shot and on the spot delete 1 or 2 of those because they're not up to par, since mostly I can't just go back and reshoot something on a different day (myself and the clients don't have the time for that).

Then there's the slight overhead on having to go through all the takes in post and try to remember why it was that I made certain decisions and decide what footage I will use of the multiple takes. While making those decisions in the field are much more top-of-mind.

So there's that and almost any other 'new' camera I know can delete single clips from the recording media. It would be imo a bit unnatural not to be able to, since this is the digital age and all?

Perhaps I'm just nittpicking, but I'm guessing this is a much wanted feature, since if you scroll through this thread it's one of the most requested and most plausible one of all the features.

it may come later we do not know what future firmwares will give us.

There could be a very real technical reason for not allowing file deletions in camera. I have read more than once that deletions as opposed to formats can cause dropped frames.

yes i have read something similar, ssd speed drop.

I would love to see more menu options for things like False Colour, Histogram, WFM, Aspect Markers, Intervalometer and more frame rates ie. 48, 50, 60 and 120 if ever possible. With the touch screen there are so many possibilities like what RED have done with the EPIC and Scarlet menu.

There could be a very real technical reason for not allowing file deletions in camera. I have read more than once that deletions as opposed to formats can cause dropped frames.

Is it possible to format an SSD in-camera though?

There could be a very real technical reason for not allowing file deletions in camera. I have read more than once that deletions as opposed to formats can cause dropped frames.

Is it possible to format an SSD in-camera though?

No, it is not.

a great feature i would LOVE is a BMCC in my hands. Will i ever get it? i dunno...

I come from a traditional broadcast background (sports broadcasting) rather than the new school of DSLR shooters, so there's some fairly standard features I'd love to see incorporated into a new version of the BMCC. If they could incorporate the following in a sub-$10,000 package I'd buy a bunch of them in a flash:

As others have suggested... GENLOCK! Without it it's unusable for multi-camera shoots. For me (and the majority of broadcasters I imagine) that's the #1 deal-breaker right there.

Secondly, fibre connections on the camera. Directly connecting a bunch of high quality, small form factor cameras in remote locations is a dream come true for us. Sure there's converters available, but that's another bit of equipment that's susceptible to the elements, and another power point that's required. Direct router connection is the way to go.

Thirdly, file transfer via a network connection... even if it's a proxy file, just something I can grab and throw onto a timeline for a quick replay.

Finally, camera control via an app - wireless start, stop etc.

Done!

I'm sure there's a million other esoteric requests I could come up with, but I think these ones are all do-able... Black Magic have the chance to revolutionize acquisition the same way as they did with distribution a few years ago when they released their routers. There's no denying the current cameras are going to be awesome for the short film / indy / commercial crowd, but for broadcasters it's a case of 'almost there but not quite'.

Nice work BM, but to be honest I'd be happy just with genlock capability!

1 - OPEN SOURCED Firmware
2 - More HUD information such as the remaining storage
3 - Much More in camera options - I want to see pages of options for the smallest features
4 - 60-120 FPS (720p is expected)

I can't wait to get this camera!

Should Have
Live histogram on screen (If not already there)
Audio Levels (if not there already)
Aperture feedback on EOS lens.
In camera SSD formatting.
Ability to mark clips for deletion (if they can't just be deleted in camera). If can't delete them, mark them somehow so they don't get transferred to our hard drives/computer storage.
False color, easily toggled on /off
Small Application for generating LUT"s and/or LUT generator from Divinci for the camera.

Would Like to Have.
3 -4 Custom setups that can be recalled easily.
Cineform Compressed Codec
Custom framing for different crops
Custom white balance when shooting compressed
time lapse function
More PC compatibility

- User-selectable frame rates (1.000-30.000 fps)
- User-selectable shutter angles (1.0-359.9 deg)
- User-selectable colour temperature in Kelvins

Option to shoot to a windowed RAW/ProRes/DNxHD format, in other words, allowing these settings:
- 2K (2048x1152),
- FullHD (1920x1080),
- 720p (1280x720)

These formats are essentially cropped from the sensor instead of rescaled in-camera.
This would allow the use of smaller format lenses, especially useful for the cinema market with the use of Super16 format lenses.

If this is not possible through a firmware upgrade, the alternative workaround would be to implement user-configurable aspect markers in-camera which will be cropped out later using Resolve or other post softwares.

A center crop would be a great feature allowing the use of Super16 lenses. I've done a blogpost about center crops sizes that would be useful http://danielgrey.com/zeiss-super-speed ... ema-camera

That's a good write-up Daniel! Hopefully the tests you did with the Super16 lenses can help convince BMD!

In order of importance:

60fps or greater burst mode - Ideally the camera could do a minimum of 60fps, hopefully more while retaining the 2.5k resolution even if it only recorded for say 5-10 seconds? Does it not have a buffer it could use to make this possible? Failing that a minimum of 60fps in ProRes / DNxHD for a similar time period? Failing that at lower resolution in ProRes / DNxHD. Some might say why bother for 5-10 seconds, you can do a hell of a lot in 5-10 seconds in a controlled shoot.

File system - Allow the camera to write to a file system that will natively work on PCs and also allow the option to format the SSD within the camera and pick a file system to work with.

Drive access within camera - Allow clips to be deleted in camera, doesn't matter if RED or ARRI don't do it, they also don't offer a RAW camera for £2k.

Compressed RAW - Something like Cineform RAW, something that gives close to the quality of RAW but takes up less space on the drive.

2.5K using all recording methods - Same resolution as normal RAW but compressed with a choice of ProRes or DNxHD.

Super35 sensor - This is obviously not a feature request but more of a desire in the next version of the BMC.

Hi, am I the only one who sees the BMCC as a great wildlife camera? The sensor is the perfect size! I will have great reach with an EF 70-200 f2.8. My 400 f2.8 will put me up close and personal with my grizzly neighbours.

So as such it needs:
10 second retro recording button feature
40-60 fps at 1080p or at least 720p
Internal ND filters would be great
Plus the previously mentioned: audio level display, f-stop display,etc

I don't have my hands on one yet but I think it will be the best wildlife camera going once it gets higher frame rates, it will blow the vari-cam out of the water in image quality. Even as it is it will be quite amazing.

Hi, am I the only one who sees the BMCC as a great wildlife camera? The sensor is the perfect size! I will have great reach with an EF 70-200 f2.8. My 400 f2.8 will put me up close and personal with my grizzly neighbours.

So as such it needs:
10 second retro recording button feature
40-60 fps at 1080p or at least 720p
Internal ND filters would be great
Plus the previously mentioned: audio level display, f-stop display,etc

I don't have my hands on one yet but I think it will be the best wildlife camera going once it gets higher frame rates, it will blow the vari-cam out of the water in image quality. Even as it is it will be quite amazing.

Your not alone. I'm looking at it more and more like the old 16mm cameras that revolutionised TV and Film. Watch David Attenbroughs 60 years in the wild. Life on Camera ( http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00zsqsz ) The way the history of tech seems to be repeating itself in the digital age is incredible. Instead of 30 minute cans of film on smaller transportable cameras we now have 30 minutes of ssd drives giving incredible images in a transportable camera.

Hi, am I the only one who sees the BMCC as a great wildlife camera? The sensor is the perfect size! I will have great reach with an EF 70-200 f2.8. My 400 f2.8 will put me up close and personal with my grizzly neighbours.

So as such it needs:
10 second retro recording button feature
40-60 fps at 1080p or at least 720p
Internal ND filters would be great
Plus the previously mentioned: audio level display, f-stop display,etc

I don't have my hands on one yet but I think it will be the best wildlife camera going once it gets higher frame rates, it will blow the vari-cam out of the water in image quality. Even as it is it will be quite amazing.

Me too will use it for wildlife... I'll bring in UW too.
Some extra framerates would be nice... But 30fps works for some slo-mo in a 25fps production.

The rolling shutter may be a problem in some type of productions, but I don't do much of fast running creatures.

4:3 Shooting Mode so we can use 2x Anamorphic

Yes. Yes. Yes!

At least I would like 48 and 60fps at RAW (preferably even higher). Essential for VFX work! Add this and I will buy the camera straight away.

Can't wait!!!

At least I would like 48 and 60fps at RAW (preferably even higher). Essential for VFX work! Add this and I will buy the camera straight away.

Can't wait!!!

Suppose that's for when they make a mark II.

4:3 Shooting Mode so we can use 2x Anamorphic

Yes. Yes. Yes!

I reitterate.
YES. YES. YES!

Wether it's a new size from the full frame sensor, or if it's a crop from the current image viewing area I don't care. The ability to use 2x anamorphic and get 2.35(2.4) would be fantastic. And if it's a crop of the current sensor image area - then there is no new technical strain - it would be (a little) less information.

-)on screen audio levels
-)on screen waveforms
-)on screen histograms
-)on screen vectorscopes
-)videoclip deleting possibility
-)false color mode
-)SSD formatting possibility
-)tap to focus function
-)tap to expose function
-)custom frame rates (from 4fps up to 60fps or more)
-)custom aspect ratio
-)show f-stop on screen
-)recording space remaining
-)exact remaining battery life
-)USB 3.0
-)custom white balance
-)low light improvement
-)noise reduction
-)HDMI output
-)rolling shutter improvement
-)4K resolution (2.5K for me not enough)
-)custom resolutions
-)better internal battery
-)possibility to input shutter angle AND exposure time
-)less display reflection (OLED display ?)

-)on screen audio levels
-)on screen waveforms
-)on screen histograms
-)videoclip deleting possibility
-)false color mode
-)SSD formatting possibility
-)tap to focus function
-)tap to expose function
-)custom frame rates (from 4fps up to 60fps or more)
-)custom aspect ratio
-)show f-stop on screen
-)recording space remaining
-)exact remaining battery life
-)USB 3.0
-)custom white balance
-)low light improvement
-)noise reduction
-)HDMI output
-)rolling shutter improvement
-)4K resolution (2.5K for me not enough)
-)custom resolutions
-)better internal battery
-)possibility to input shutter angle AND exposure time

Exactly. 1000000%
I think deleting clips more important than formatting they must work on it seriously

4:3 Shooting Mode so we can use 2x Anamorphic

Yes. Yes. Yes!

I reitterate.
YES. YES. YES!

Wether it's a new size from the full frame sensor, or if it's a crop from the current image viewing area I don't care. The ability to use 2x anamorphic and get 2.35(2.4) would be fantastic. And if it's a crop of the current sensor image area - then there is no new technical strain - it would be (a little) less information.

+1
for me also it doesnt matter if using the full frame sensor or not , i just want to be able to use my anamorphic lens - it cost me allot so yes plz

4:3 Shooting Mode so we can use 2x Anamorphic

Yes. Yes. Yes!

Wether it's a new size from the full frame sensor, or if it's a crop from the current image viewing area I don't care. The ability to use 2x anamorphic and get 2.35(2.4) would be fantastic. And if it's a crop of the current sensor image area - then there is no new technical strain - it would be (a little) less information.

Paul, I certainly support the desire for a 4:3 frame size. Using a 2x anamorphic squeeze, this provides a 2.66:1 aspect ratio for your raw image and deliverables.

You might want to reconsider your statement that you don't care if it is achieved by cropping the current active sensor (although you are right that may be easier to implement on the current version of the BMCC). You could crop from the 2400x1350 raw image or crop from a 1920x1080 ProRes or DNxHD image and either will allow you to generate final deliverables in an anamorphic widescreen style but neither will give you a quality true cinema widescreen version for theatre projection, in which your deliverable should be based on a 2K image (2048x1080 or 2048x858) format assuming my thinking below is correct:

You are familiar with how RED achieves a 4K debayered (with high quality colour) image from a 5K bayer sensor with only a 20% 'loss' of resolution. The BMCC aspires to do something similar with its 2.5K bayer sensor to generate a high quality debayered image in HD (1920x1080) with the same 20% loss.

If a future version of the BMCC (or in our dreams, miraculously via a firmware update to the current version) utilizes the full physical size of the sensor (2592x2192) and offers a 4:3 frame, the resultant raw image will be 2560x1920. Taking that 20% off for colour sampling, gives us a high quality colour image of 2048x1536. It's the 2048 that is really important here as there's room to sacrifice pixels on the vertical resolution. So at least using the full physical sensor horizontal resolution will give us the perfect size for a 2K theatrical release been without using an anamorphic lens or adapter.

In my mind using the full horizontal size of the sensor is quite important to get the best quality colour for theatrical release (surely that goal is implied in a cinema camera) without cropping away valuable pixels. Of course other scenarios work well with what you said originally if you only distribute on the web. It seems to me though over time, web and television will appreciate having a 2K image as well as televisions and computer screens increase their resolutions for the typical viewer.

When you use a 2x anamorphic lens, you have a lot of pixels to play with horizontally. But I suspect more people producing content would benefit from BMD using the full sensor width for all video purposes than the smaller number that will use anamorphic lenses to achieve their widescreen goals.

I hope this argument makes sense. I'm just working it through in my mind to determine where the priority should be if resources are constrained. I don't think BMD wants to implement a solution which will actually result in a degraded image due to cropping if they can avoid it. I'd love to see 4:3 but thinking it over using the full horizontal sensor size may be more important to a broader audience. And using the full horizontal adds less than 7% to the processing workload...

Comments?

Rick Lang
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Probably a super niche market for this, but I would love to see a BMC Monochrome version at some point. It would be great to have a dedicated B&W camera at this price point.

+1 The first time I was really wowed by the feel of a digital image, was watching the "Suit and Tie" video shot on the epic monochrome. I never thought I'd want a strictly monochrome camera until seeing that. Very interested in a monochrome Blackmagic Camera. (Especially a pocket )

1) Reformat SSD in Camera
2) Use Thunderbolt for media offload
3) Audio VU