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Windows worklflow

PostWed Dec 19, 2012 2:00 pm

Hi!

I´m curious to know what´s your intended workflow in windows with the Blackmagic cinema camera. I´m thinking to work with the Raw files via usb 3.0 in Raid1, what do you think about this? I haven´t got Sata 3.
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Re: Windows worklflow

PostWed Dec 19, 2012 3:32 pm

My workflow won't be Windows based, but until I feel comfortable using Resolve, I will be pre-grading the shots using Adobe Lightroom, then editing them in Adobe Premiere or Final Cut Pro. This is slightly primitive for a video workflow, but it will be easier for me (for now) since my background is mainly photography. This would also be possible in Windows.
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Re: Windows worklflow

PostWed Dec 19, 2012 3:43 pm

Christian Schmeer wrote:My workflow won't be Windows based, but until I feel comfortable using Resolve, I will be pre-grading the shots using Adobe Lightroom, then editing them in Adobe Premiere or Final Cut Pro. This is slightly primitive for a video workflow, but it will be easier for me (for now) since my background is mainly photography. This would also be possible in Windows.


Mmm... i´m thinking more about where the material for edit will be allowed for best speed in windows, like HDD, SDD, Raid, and what will be the connection for transfer de data? USB 3.0, SATA, FIREWIRE?
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Re: Windows worklflow

PostWed Dec 19, 2012 3:57 pm

JSRAIMUNDI wrote:
Christian Schmeer wrote:My workflow won't be Windows based, but until I feel comfortable using Resolve, I will be pre-grading the shots using Adobe Lightroom, then editing them in Adobe Premiere or Final Cut Pro. This is slightly primitive for a video workflow, but it will be easier for me (for now) since my background is mainly photography. This would also be possible in Windows.


Mmm... i´m thinking more about where the material for edit will be allowed for best speed in windows, like HDD, SDD, Raid, and what will be the connection for transfer de data? USB 3.0, SATA, FIREWIRE?
Thanks!


No to firewire with RAW. USB 3.0 should be fast enough to edit from if you have a recommended SSD or a RAID 0 setup . Windows based PC motherboards are now incorporating thunderbolt, so there is another option.

I myself will be using a iMac and Retina Macbook Pro, but if I were to use windows I would use my following devices: -

BlacX 5G USB 3.0 adapter with Kingston SSD or Sandisk Extreme 480.
Couple of SATA internal RAID 10000rpm HD's
My 2600k OC'd to 4.6GHz with SLI 670's for resolve (one for the GUI and one for the rendering)

Of course this would be the Sony F5, but it should be the same setup
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Re: Windows worklflow

PostWed Dec 19, 2012 4:55 pm

JSRAIMUNDI wrote:Hi!

I´m curious to know what´s your intended workflow in windows with the Blackmagic cinema camera. I´m thinking to work with the Raw files via usb 3.0 in Raid1, what do you think about this? I haven´t got Sata 3.
Thanks!



why raid 1 i has never seen anyone use raid one for video before if any thin gyou want raid 5 or if u cant then raid 0.
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Re: Windows worklflow

PostWed Dec 19, 2012 7:09 pm

My recommendation is to make sure you run the BM's Disk Speed Test on the drives you intend to use. It will tell you if your performance is adequate.

My current machine:
i7 990X, 24GB ram, 120 GB SSD SATA3 OS drive, Two 1TB WD 7200RPM SATA3 drives - RAID 0, 1 60GB SATA2 SSD for caches and previews. GTX560 Ti for graphics.

This system is ridiculously fast and does everything I need. The raid speed test results say I can read and write full 2K at 10bit 422 and full1080 at 10 bit 444. Which is all I'll need in the foreseeable future.

I currently don't use Resolve. So, the two planned future upgrades are eSATA or USB3 external 4 disk RAID and possibly a GTX 680 card. Then I will use the 560Ti for GUI in resolve.

Costa, if you SLI your 670's, will they not appear as a single GPU?
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Re: Windows worklflow

PostWed Dec 19, 2012 9:51 pm

Thank you very much for the answers.

Well, I have a PC with:
2x6 cores Intel Xeon 2.66 Ghz
12 Gb Ram
Nvidia Quadro 4000
1Tb Western Digital 7200rpm

I´m thinking to buy a 250Gb SSD for applications, and build a Raid 1 via USB 3.0 via http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/8 ... ure_Q.html
because i have Sata 2 internal and i think this option maybe will work faster than a internal Raid. I want Raid 1 to keep a backup of my jobs but why i must have a Raid 0?

My other problem is that i can´t put another graphic card for Resolve because i haven´t more PCI Express x16 :evil:

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Re: Windows worklflow

PostWed Dec 19, 2012 9:54 pm

JSRAIMUNDI wrote:Thank you very much for the answers.

Well, I have a PC with:
2x6 cores Intel Xeon 2.66 Ghz
12 Gb Ram
Nvidia Quadro 4000
1Tb Western Digital 7200rpm

I´m thinking to buy a 250Gb SSD for applications, and build a Raid 1 via USB 3.0 via http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/8 ... ure_Q.html
because i have Sata 2 internal and i think this option maybe will work faster than a internal Raid. I want Raid 1 to keep a backup of my jobs but why i must have a Raid 0?

My other problem is that i can´t put another graphic card for Resolve because i haven´t more PCI Express x16 :evil:

Thanks again!


Do you have a pci-e x8 slot? If so use that... bandwidth will be 8x but the difference is minimal.
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Re: Windows worklflow

PostWed Dec 19, 2012 9:55 pm

Costa Louvieris wrote:
JSRAIMUNDI wrote:Thank you very much for the answers.

Well, I have a PC with:
2x6 cores Intel Xeon 2.66 Ghz
12 Gb Ram
Nvidia Quadro 4000
1Tb Western Digital 7200rpm

I´m thinking to buy a 250Gb SSD for applications, and build a Raid 1 via USB 3.0 via http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/8 ... ure_Q.html
because i have Sata 2 internal and i think this option maybe will work faster than a internal Raid. I want Raid 1 to keep a backup of my jobs but why i must have a Raid 0?

My other problem is that i can´t put another graphic card for Resolve because i haven´t more PCI Express x16 :evil:

Thanks again!


Did you have a pci-e x8 slot? If so use that... bandwidth will be 8x but the difference is minimal.


I have to check, but maybe... i didn´t know, thanks!
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Re: Windows worklflow

PostWed Dec 19, 2012 10:10 pm

JSRAIMUNDI wrote:
Costa Louvieris wrote:
JSRAIMUNDI wrote:Thank you very much for the answers.

Well, I have a PC with:
2x6 cores Intel Xeon 2.66 Ghz
12 Gb Ram
Nvidia Quadro 4000
1Tb Western Digital 7200rpm

I´m thinking to buy a 250Gb SSD for applications, and build a Raid 1 via USB 3.0 via http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/8 ... ure_Q.html
because i have Sata 2 internal and i think this option maybe will work faster than a internal Raid. I want Raid 1 to keep a backup of my jobs but why i must have a Raid 0?

My other problem is that i can´t put another graphic card for Resolve because i haven´t more PCI Express x16 :evil:

Thanks again!


Did you have a pci-e x8 slot? If so use that... bandwidth will be 8x but the difference is minimal.


I have to check, but maybe... i didn´t know, thanks!


No problem. Also what mobo do you have? You should make sure it's sli compatible! Not sure how resolve acts with two unlinked cards.
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Re: Windows worklflow

PostWed Dec 19, 2012 10:23 pm

Thanks!

What means MOBO?
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Re: Windows worklflow

PostThu Dec 20, 2012 12:22 am

JSRAIMUNDI wrote:What means MOBO?


Motherboard :) Sorry for misreading your initial question by the way, I was at the airport :D I would work with either USB3.0 or ESATA. USB 3.0 gear is probably easier to find/cheaper, as it's used in both consumer and professional products, whereas ESATA is a little more specialised.
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Re: Windows worklflow

PostThu Dec 20, 2012 10:27 am

Mmm.... ok! So, the two graphics cards must be connected via sli?
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Re: Windows worklflow

PostThu Dec 20, 2012 10:49 am

JSRAIMUNDI wrote:Mmm.... ok! So, the two graphics cards must be connected via sli?


Well this is the the thing... this is how I have my PC setup. However I am not sure if you "have to link" them via SLI. It is possible that the GPU (graphics processing unit) connected to the monitor should control the GUI and the "free" card SHOULD be detected in Resolve as the spare to do all the heavy lifting. However, I recommend contacting BMD support to confirm this.

In theory you shouldn't need to link them, but I have no idea how your PC and Resolve would work unlinked. If I had the time I would unlink my SLI cards and test it out for you:) However, the quickest way would to be just contact BMD support and ask!

Edit - if you look in this document at around page 18 it should inform you with everything you need to know!
http://www.blackmagicdesign.com/media/4 ... -08-30.pdf
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Re: Windows worklflow

PostThu Dec 20, 2012 2:26 pm

Costa Louvieris wrote:
JSRAIMUNDI wrote:Mmm.... ok! So, the two graphics cards must be connected via sli?


Well this is the the thing... this is how I have my PC setup. However I am not sure if you "have to link" them via SLI. It is possible that the GPU (graphics processing unit) connected to the monitor should control the GUI and the "free" card SHOULD be detected in Resolve as the spare to do all the heavy lifting. However, I recommend contacting BMD support to confirm this.

In theory you shouldn't need to link them, but I have no idea how your PC and Resolve would work unlinked. If I had the time I would unlink my SLI cards and test it out for you:) However, the quickest way would to be just contact BMD support and ask!

Edit - if you look in this document at around page 18 it should inform you with everything you need to know!
http://www.blackmagicdesign.com/media/4 ... -08-30.pdf


Thanks for the info! And if you do the test very thanks more!!
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Re: Windows worklflow

PostFri Dec 21, 2012 5:47 pm

JSRAIMUNDI why did you go with the xeon over the I7. trying to make up my mind on what i NEEd and not want. I use my pc mostly for 3-5 minute videos, commercials and short films from 10 to 30 minutes. will be doing a full length film next year but just need to know will the xeon give significant performance over the I7. thanks in advance.

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