Lexar 256GB CFAST on the URSA

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Lexar 256GB CFAST on the URSA

PostThu Jul 02, 2015 6:23 pm

Did anyone tried them on the URSA yet ?

BH sells them under $600 the price is great
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Re: Lexar 256GB CFAST on the URSA

PostMon Jul 06, 2015 4:25 pm

should I thank you for not answering my question too ?
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Re: Lexar 256GB CFAST on the URSA

PostMon Jul 06, 2015 4:36 pm

You should buy them and try them. let us know how it works for you. I personally wouldn't try anything not approved. But if your willing to try and see... if nothing shows on this site do a google search to see if anyone has done a review.
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PostMon Jul 06, 2015 5:23 pm

I have 3 of them and they work well..no dropped frames ..works well for 80fps 3:1 raw. Had them before the price drop.
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Re: Lexar 256GB CFAST on the URSA

PostMon Jul 06, 2015 7:25 pm

Assuming you're talking about the 3400x. It's listed as BMD approved. Puzzled as to why you are inquiring about its integrity.
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Re: Lexar 256GB CFAST on the URSA

PostMon Jul 06, 2015 7:58 pm

I have 7 Sandisk running for months with zero problems .. plus 1 Wise card that was free when we bought the URSA EF from BH Photo
the Wise is on the list and not the Sandisk and I will never trust the Wise for serious works
I already said what I think of the BM card list elsewhere and got sh*t for telling my mind
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Lexar 256GB CFAST on the URSA

PostMon Jul 06, 2015 8:38 pm

Alain, CaptainHook has posted previously that the Wise 128GB CFAST 2 card performed better than the Lexar 256GB card when using ProRes at HFR. He also said that the Lexar 256GB card performed better than the Wise for raw HFR.


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Re: Lexar 256GB CFAST on the URSA

PostTue Jul 07, 2015 2:56 pm

rick.lang wrote:Alain, CaptainHook has posted previously that the Wise 128GB CFAST 2 card performed better than the Lexar 256GB card when using ProRes at HFR. He also said that the Lexar 256GB card performed better than the Wise for raw HFR.


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thanks that's the kind of post I was looking for I will search for that specific post
I also found that the Wise was sluggish in RAW , its continuous write speed is better than its burst mode needed for RAW since RAW is a sequence of separate files
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PostTue Jul 07, 2015 4:01 pm

I don't know about Wise's interactions with BMD, but I'm sure Lexar worked closely with BMD to build a card and tune their internal data manager for BMD raw video. Possibly like Digistor may have done for their SSDs. In a world awash in cheap media designed for use in computers or lower data rate photography or video, it's great to see at least two companies that really want to provide superior CFast 2 products for videographers.


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Re: Lexar 256GB CFAST on the URSA

PostTue Jul 07, 2015 4:18 pm

Good morning, Alain.

I have two of the Lexar 256GB CFast 2.0 Cards. Same as the above person, I bought them awhile back before the price drop.

I haven't had an issue with the cards. I don't shoot ProRes, if that is your specific requirement.

Hope that helps.
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PostTue Aug 18, 2015 3:56 pm

Here is a glimpse into the manufacturing process for the Lexar cards at the Micron facility in Utah, U.S:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kvf29R7nXlM



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Lexar 256GB CFAST on the URSA

PostTue Oct 13, 2015 8:43 pm

Lexar is discontinuing their 3400x CFast 2 cards... Just been replaced by two faster cards, 3600x and 3500x, identically priced, both of which Lexar describes on the website as compatible with URSA, URSA Mini, ARRI Alexa, and ARRI Amira:

http://www.lexar.com/products/cfast-memory-cards

3600x up to 445MB write, 540MB read

3500x up to 445MB write, 525MB read

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Re: Lexar 256GB CFAST on the URSA

PostTue Oct 13, 2015 8:52 pm

Thanks for the update, Rick.
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Re: Lexar 256GB CFAST on the URSA

PostTue Oct 13, 2015 9:04 pm

Thank you rick, maybe we can see an update on the ursa mini and ursa for higher frame rates since these cards seems like it can sustain those speeds
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Re: Lexar 256GB CFAST on the URSA

PostTue Oct 13, 2015 9:13 pm

You're welcome, Ivon. Donnell some of the codec/frame rate combinations already exceed what is possible to record on an existing CFast 2 card. These cards are just going to make recording easier to a single card in some instances and other times dual card recording will still be needed. What I like is the 3600x was specifically designed for ARRI to meet their stringent requirements for video recording. I was pleasantly surprised to see that Lexar claims not only ARRI compatibility but also URSA compatibility. Okay, that's nice, but I thought the ARRI card would have a price premium; however both cards are priced the same in the press release (street price should be lower). Win-win for URSA/Mini shooters when BMD certifies these new cards!

The 3600x cards are available in October and the 3500x cards are ready in November. Too bad this isn't a K-Mart Blue Light Special 2 for 1!


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Lexar 256GB CFAST on the URSA

PostTue Oct 13, 2015 9:33 pm

You may recall the original Lexar products for offloading recorded media (including CFast 2) that were not without some reports of flawed performance. Today Lexar has available their new Professional Workflow Hub HR2 that adds two Thunderbolt 2 ports. Price has jumped considerably but the USB 3 HR1 is not discontinued. Don't need a hub, but just a card reader: the new CR2 also includes two Thunderbolt 2 ports. Avoid the inexpensive CR1 as they were not reliable.

http://www.lexar.com/workflow?category=203

Edit: corrected reference to the CR2 which supports CFast 2 media.

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Re: Lexar 256GB CFAST on the URSA

PostWed Oct 14, 2015 1:09 am

rick.lang wrote:You're welcome, Ivon. Donnell some of the codec/frame rate combinations already exceed what is possible to record on an existing CFast 2 card. These cards are just going to make recording easier to a single card in some instances and other times dual card recording will still be needed. What I like is the 3600x was specifically designed for ARRI to meet their stringent requirements for video recording. I was pleasantly surprised to see that Lexar claims not only ARRI compatibility but also URSA compatibility. Okay, that's nice, but I thought the ARRI card would have a price premium; however both cards are priced the same in the press release (street price should be lower). Win-win for URSA/Mini shooters when BMD certifies these new cards!

The 3600x cards are available in October and the 3500x cards are ready in November. Too bad this isn't a K-Mart Blue Light Special 2 for 1!


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Thanks for the info, Rick. Now, in my B&H wish list. Hopefully, we can get an updated BMD approved CFast card list, so that we can act once the mini starts shipping. ;)
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PostWed Oct 21, 2015 12:07 pm

Would you say it is better to wait for these newer cards to come out before buying?

My ursa mini should be here at the end of the nov /dec so I want something to record on!

The other question is - are we likely to see crazy prices again on these newer cards, while they clear the older ones?

the 3400's will still do the job right? Can't seem to find the exact write speed on their website.

3400 - 510mb/sec - read, ?? - write speed
3500 - 525mb/sec - read, 445 - write speed
3600 - 540mb/sec - read, 445 - write speed

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PostWed Oct 21, 2015 2:45 pm

Andrew Koutsou wrote:Would you say it is better to wait for these newer cards to come out before buying?

The new cards are available now.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1 ... emory.html
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Re: Lexar 256GB CFAST on the URSA

PostWed Oct 21, 2015 4:57 pm

Good to see they're selling already. Andrew I imagine you have another month then to wait for BMD to update their list of approved cards for the URSA/Mini. The 3400x are discontinued but approved and best at raw. Once certified by BMD, I'd pick up at least two 3600x 256GB for recording raw.


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PostWed Oct 21, 2015 8:24 pm

Lucky I didn't buy the old ones online
Couldn't see any on Amazon uk. I will order them through company
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