URSA & URSA Mini EF Lens Compatibility List - Firmware 3.0+

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Re: URSA & URSA Mini EF Lens Compatibility List - Firmware 3

PostSun Sep 11, 2016 3:39 am

I am considering this package; Ursa mini 4.6k EF with the upcoming canon 18-80mm lens because it is the only more affordable cine lens option at this time (US $5200). I shoot commercials, events, and docs, mostly handheld, and I need an ENG style camera/lens package. I considered the PL mount mini with B4 adapter and HD ENG lenses($4K and up used) but for about the same price, with the canon, I get a S35 cine lens with servo that takes advance of the full sensor and resolution of the camera rather than just HD. 4.4 stops is good enough for me. Canon has also announced they are coming out with a telephoto version of this lens. I'd appreciate any thoughts or feedback on this combination. Thanks.
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Re: URSA & URSA Mini EF Lens Compatibility List - Firmware 3

PostTue Sep 20, 2016 9:08 pm

It works on our URSA running the latest firmware with the CNE 30-105 zoom.
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Re: URSA & URSA Mini EF Lens Compatibility List - Firmware 3

PostTue Sep 20, 2016 9:26 pm

Just checked with an associate who has the UM4.6 & CNE primes and they all report to his camera.
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Re: URSA & URSA Mini EF Lens Compatibility List - Firmware 3

PostWed Sep 21, 2016 2:29 am

John Fishback wrote:Just checked with an associate who has the UM4.6 & CNE primes and they all report to his camera.


Interesting. I wonder why mine stopped working. There isn't any kind of firmware IN the lens is there? I was using my UM4.6 today and taking note that when I change codec settings and the camera boots into the new setting that the lens would update it's fstop on screen, but it wouldn't keep up with aperture changes after that.
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Re: URSA & URSA Mini EF Lens Compatibility List - Firmware 3

PostWed Sep 21, 2016 8:46 pm

Are you on 4.0 Beta 2 Nelson?
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Re: URSA & URSA Mini EF Lens Compatibility List - Firmware 3

PostFri Sep 23, 2016 2:31 am

Lens model: Canon EF-S 10-18mm f/4.5-5.6 IS STM
Focal Length: 10-18mm
AF works: yes
Aperture control: yes
IS works: ? Not sure, lens is so wide that it is hard to judge.
Vignettes: At 10mm: yes. 11-18mm: no.

Comment:
If you want an ultra-wide rectilinear lens (especially a lightweight one for gimbal work), this should be near the top of your list!

The maximum aperture is pretty slow (f/4.5 is the max at 10mm and f/4.8 at 11mm), however, it is very sharp at maximum aperture, good enough for 4K.

Since this is a Canon EF-S lens, it has some vignetting on the 4.6k sensor (since that sensor is larger than the Canon APS-C sensor). Thankfully, however, if you zoom in to 11mm, the vignetting is gone and is gone from the rest of the zoom range. (So, if you have a 4.6k, just pretend it is a 11-18mm f/4.8-5.6!)

Another downside is that it is focus-by-wire. However, given its short focal length and narrow aperture, you'll rarely need to pull focus. Furthermore, this lens is ideal for gimbal/drone work as the lens can be electronically-focused from LAN-C remotes connected to the Ursa. (However, if you need to use a geared system, this lens will likely prove challenging.)

At ~$300, there were bound to be compromises, but I have yet to find a better ultra wide other than the Arri UWZ (~$53,000). (The new Sigma 12-24mm f/4 Art looks promising, but it is not as wide and it will not accommodate a screw-in ND filter due to its bulbous front element.)
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Re: URSA & URSA Mini EF Lens Compatibility List - Firmware 3

PostThu Sep 29, 2016 9:49 pm

Will the Canon EF 100-400mm work on the URSA Mini 4K EF?
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Re: URSA & URSA Mini EF Lens Compatibility List - Firmware 3

PostFri Sep 30, 2016 6:16 pm

Piero Lancialonga wrote:Hi,
after update URSA Mini EF 4k to 3.3 the Canon lens L 16-35mm 2.8 II is no longer recognized. The Canon 24-70mm L 2.8 I and the 70-200mm L 2.8 I continue to work properly. Another of my lens, the Canon 100mm macro L 2.8 IS was never recognized whit 2.8 or 3.3.
I live in Rome Italy and I need to continue working with 16-35mm lens, the only alternative is to go back to the old firmware?
I look forward to your response
Thank you
Piero


Hi Piero,

I've also had the same issue with the Canon L 16-35 2.8 II. I couldn't get it to work on firmware 3.1 to 3.4. Had to go back to 2.8.1 in order to get lens functionality again. Don't know if version 4 has fixed the issue yet but I'll be giving it a go when I can give the ursa some down time.

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Re: URSA & URSA Mini EF Lens Compatibility List - Firmware 3

PostSun Oct 02, 2016 11:24 pm

David Lawson wrote:
Piero Lancialonga wrote:after update URSA Mini EF 4k to 3.3 the Canon lens L 16-35mm 2.8 II is no longer recognized.

I've also had the same issue with the Canon L 16-35 2.8 II. Had to go back to 2.8.1 in order to get lens functionality again.

Going up to version 4 won't solve this for you. If going back from 3+ to 2.8.1 gets the lens working then your camera will need to come in to one of our support centres. We have a procedure that will get this lens working on version 3 and 4 and will also maximise compatibility with other EF lenses.
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Re: URSA & URSA Mini EF Lens Compatibility List - Firmware 3

PostWed Oct 12, 2016 11:14 pm

Lens model: Zeiss Milvus
Focal Length: 50mm
AF works: n/a
Aperture control: no
IS works: n/a
Vignettes: no

Tested on URSA Mini 4.6k
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Re: URSA & URSA Mini EF Lens Compatibility List - Firmware 3

PostMon Oct 24, 2016 7:06 pm

Tim Schumann wrote:
David Lawson wrote:
Piero Lancialonga wrote:after update URSA Mini EF 4k to 3.3 the Canon lens L 16-35mm 2.8 II is no longer recognized.

I've also had the same issue with the Canon L 16-35 2.8 II. Had to go back to 2.8.1 in order to get lens functionality again.

Going up to version 4 won't solve this for you. If going back from 3+ to 2.8.1 gets the lens working then your camera will need to come in to one of our support centres. We have a procedure that will get this lens working on version 3 and 4 and will also maximise compatibility with other EF lenses.



What is the procedure to send our camera in for hardware fix?
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Re: URSA & URSA Mini EF Lens Compatibility List - Firmware 3

PostMon Oct 24, 2016 9:25 pm

Contact one of our support offices...

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Re: URSA & URSA Mini EF Lens Compatibility List - Firmware 3

PostFri Oct 28, 2016 9:10 pm

I still dont have my ursa mini, the budget should be good by mid december for it.

I am wondering about the Canon EF 35mm f1.2 L USM. I use it sometimes indoors for a lurking in the corner feel. I love the 84 deg frame width but it is probably not high on most people's film lists. It does look like a security camera indoors for sure. ...
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Re: URSA & URSA Mini EF Lens Compatibility List - Firmware 3

PostMon Oct 31, 2016 7:24 pm

Could you please add support for TAMRON lenses, specially this ones:

Tamron SP AFA012C700 15-30mm f/2.8 Di VC USD (EF Mount)

SP 70-200MM F/2.8 DI VC USD Canon EF (Model A009E)

Please...
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Re: URSA & URSA Mini EF Lens Compatibility List - Firmware 3

PostMon Nov 21, 2016 3:52 pm

I tested this two EF lenses on my Ursa Mini 4K.

Lens model: EF 70-300mm f/4.0-5.6L IS USM
Focal Length: 70-300mm
AF works: yes
Aperture control: yes
IS works: yes
Vignettes: no - Full Frame Lens
Note: Not working on URSA Mini 4K with firmware 4.0. Working on version 3.3

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Lens model: EF 16-35mm f/2.8L II USM
Focal Length: 16-35mm
AF works: no
Aperture control: no
IS works: N/A
Vignettes: no - Full Frame Lens
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Re: URSA & URSA Mini EF Lens Compatibility List - Firmware 3

PostMon Nov 21, 2016 3:56 pm

Simon Baker wrote:
Lens model: Canon 50mm f/1.4 EF
Focal Length: 50mm
AF works: Yes
Aperture control: Yes
IS works: N/A
Vignettes: No

Works fine with me as well.
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PostFri Nov 25, 2016 4:53 am

Paul Wassink wrote:I tested this two EF lenses on my Ursa Mini 4K.

Lens model: EF 70-300mm f/4.0-5.6L IS USM
Focal Length: 70-300mm
AF works: yes
Aperture control: yes
IS works: yes
Vignettes: no - Full Frame Lens
Note: Not working on URSA Mini 4K with firmware 4.0. Working on version 3.3

and

Lens model: EF 16-35mm f/2.8L II USM
Focal Length: 16-35mm
AF works: no
Aperture control: no
IS works: N/A
Vignettes: no - Full Frame Lens



any official statement on lens compatibility?
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Re: URSA & URSA Mini EF Lens Compatibility List - Firmware 3

PostSun Nov 27, 2016 10:45 pm

If these lenses are not working for you please contact support.

There is a mod that can be done which will get these lenses, and all others working for you but it will need to come in to one of our support centres.
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Re: URSA & URSA Mini EF Lens Compatibility List - Firmware 3

PostTue Dec 13, 2016 1:09 pm

Hi there,

Did anyone already test the Canon EF 11-24/4.0 USM on the URSA 4.6k ?

I was considering it as a wide angle zoom but would like to know if at least aperture works on the URSA.

Best regards

Jean-Luc
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Re: URSA & URSA Mini EF Lens Compatibility List - Firmware 3

PostSat Dec 17, 2016 3:23 pm

Just wondering if anyone has had any luck with the following lenses?

Tamron 70-200 f2.8 VC
Sigma 70-200 f2.8 OS
Sigma 50-150 f2.8 OS

Looking at getting a stabilised zoom, I know the Canon 70-200 f2.8 II is a great lens, but just wondering whether these other lenses are working on the ursa mini - stabilisation and aperture control?
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Re: URSA & URSA Mini EF Lens Compatibility List - Firmware 3

PostMon Jan 30, 2017 6:25 pm

After skimming through I didn't see anyone note the Sigma 30mm 1.4. Auto focus works on Ursa Mini 4k EF and I don't see any vignetting. Iris button works as well and aperture is displayed correctly. Seems to be working perfectly fine
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PostSat Feb 04, 2017 9:02 am

Lens model: Canon 18 - 80mm T4.4 IS
Focal Length: 18-80mm
AF works: No
Aperture control: Manual Only (but blessedly clickless and totally smooth)
IS works: Yes (when recording)
Vignettes: some darkening of the corners from 18-21mm, but still usable at those angles (in my opinion)

Rented to test it this week and am pleased to say that it is working well for my needs and looks like it may be my next investment in glass for the 4.6K EF Ursa Mini. It is such a joy to have a truly parfocal EF mount lens that exhibits no visible breahting. Considering it only weighs half as much (2.5 pounds) and costs half as much as the closest competing options from Zeiss (the 21-100 starts at T2.9 but unfortunately ramps some through the range) and Angénieux (which are T2 but has one lens with 15-40 and another 30-90 so you'll need both lenses to cover same range, so 4x the cost compared to the Canon).
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Re: URSA & URSA Mini EF Lens Compatibility List - Firmware 3

PostWed Mar 15, 2017 3:56 pm

adamroberts wrote:
jerrygladh wrote:EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II USM

Not working, at least not on the Mini 4K EF and FW 3.1


Strange. The one I tested worked just fine. Will add a note to the list. Thanks


Mine works on FW 4.0, though I notice the AF moves it a bit too much at a time sometimes and misses the focus point fairly regularly (just never finds it at all and gives up).
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PostWed Mar 15, 2017 9:11 pm

jerrygladh wrote:BM UK fixed my Ursa mini 4k EF and
all my canon lenses now working.

Fast service....

Jerry


The list did not get updated after this post.
This lens is working on 4.x software with URSA Mini.
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PostMon Mar 27, 2017 8:44 am

Hi Jamie
Just a question considering the Canon 18-80mm T4.4 IS: Does it work with the Broadcast Lens Controller of the Ursa Mini (Pro)?

Jamie LeJeune wrote:Lens model: Canon 18 - 80mm T4.4 IS
Focal Length: 18-80mm
AF works: No
Aperture control: Manual Only (but blessedly clickless and totally smooth)
IS works: Yes (when recording)
Vignettes: some darkening of the corners from 18-21mm, but still usable at those angles (in my opinion)

Rented to test it this week and am pleased to say that it is working well for my needs and looks like it may be my next investment in glass for the 4.6K EF Ursa Mini. It is such a joy to have a truly parfocal EF mount lens that exhibits no visible breahting. Considering it only weighs half as much (2.5 pounds) and costs half as much as the closest competing options from Zeiss (the 21-100 starts at T2.9 but unfortunately ramps some through the range) and Angénieux (which are T2 but has one lens with 15-40 and another 30-90 so you'll need both lenses to cover same range, so 4x the cost compared to the Canon).
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Re: URSA & URSA Mini EF Lens Compatibility List - Firmware 3

PostSun Apr 02, 2017 7:04 pm

Edwin Beeler wrote:Hi Jamie
Just a question considering the Canon 18-80mm T4.4 IS: Does it work with the Broadcast Lens Controller of the Ursa Mini (Pro)?


Used it on the original Ursa Mini. I've no idea about how it functions on the newly released Pro. I'll be at NAB this year and that is one the questions I'll be asking.
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