Super Wide with Metabone Speed Booster?

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Dennis Westhoff

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Super Wide with Metabone Speed Booster?

PostFri Feb 08, 2013 11:00 am

I'm looking forward to buy a BMCC with MFT Mount and the Metaone Speed Booster as an adapter for Canon Lenses.
I need it for interior architecture videos, so I have to get super wide without any fisheye distortion.
I'm a bit confused about all that crop-factor stuff..I've heard that the BMCC + Metabone Adapter has a crop factor like super 35 (~canon 60d).

Which lens would you recommend? How wide can I go?
Do I really have to use fullframe lenses if I'm working with this Adapter or is it enough to take something like the canon 10 - 22?

Thanks,
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Re: Super Wide with Metabone Speed Booster?

PostFri Feb 08, 2013 3:30 pm

If you use a decent lens you can go as wide as you like and correct any minor distortion in post :)
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Re: Super Wide with Metabone Speed Booster?

PostFri Feb 08, 2013 3:32 pm

Yes thats true :)
But do you think I can use EF-S lenses (not fullframe) without having a black frame around my image?
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Re: Super Wide with Metabone Speed Booster?

PostFri Feb 08, 2013 3:53 pm

Yes, this post on the forum says it best :)

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=529
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Re: Super Wide with Metabone Speed Booster?

PostFri Feb 08, 2013 3:58 pm

I'm talking about using this lens with the Metabone Speed Booster
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=4196
It reduces the cropfactor from 2,4 or 2,3 to about 1,6
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Re: Super Wide with Metabone Speed Booster?

PostFri Feb 08, 2013 4:21 pm

what about the truth about there is no mft mount version of speedbooster?

and also I read on metabones website that Canon EF lens (but not EF-S) support is planned in the future, but they do not have an estimated date yet.

I am planning to buy mft mount bmcc to use with my ef mount samyang lenses and speed booster could solve all of my problems..
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Re: Super Wide with Metabone Speed Booster?

PostFri Feb 08, 2013 4:26 pm

I thought P. Bloom said there will be a MFT to EF Speed Booster which is not released yet!
Mhmmm..if not, I think I will go with the EF Mount BMCC.
but still not sure about that..
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Re: Super Wide with Metabone Speed Booster?

PostFri Feb 08, 2013 8:37 pm

You can't use EF lenses with the speed booster on the BMCC, because the passive MTF mount means you won't have iris control.
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Re: Super Wide with Metabone Speed Booster?

PostFri Feb 08, 2013 9:25 pm

metaljesus wrote:You can't use EF lenses with the speed booster on the BMCC, because the passive MTF mount means you won't have iris control.

it is not a word for me because i want use my samyang ef lenses which are not electronic...
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Re: Super Wide with Metabone Speed Booster?

PostFri Feb 08, 2013 10:22 pm

Ok I'm sorry I forgot about that. So forget about the canon 10-22.
Lets take the Rokinon/Samyang 14mm cine lens.
I'm not sure if it is wide enough, even with the Speed Booster.

Do you know any wide (about 10 or 12mm) EF-Mount lenses with fully manual control?
And please below 1500$ :)

If not, Id rather go with the EF BMCC and a 8 - 16 Sigma lens.
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Re: Super Wide with Metabone Speed Booster?

PostSat Feb 09, 2013 2:04 am

Samyang is working on a 10mm F2.8 APS-C lens. I'm assuming it will be EF mount like their 8mm fisheye.
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Re: Super Wide with Metabone Speed Booster?

PostSat Feb 09, 2013 1:45 pm

gliderpilotdw wrote:Ok I'm sorry I forgot about that. So forget about the canon 10-22.
Lets take the Rokinon/Samyang 14mm cine lens.
I'm not sure if it is wide enough, even with the Speed Booster.

Do you know any wide (about 10 or 12mm) EF-Mount lenses with fully manual control?
And please below 1500$ :)

If not, Id rather go with the EF BMCC and a 8 - 16 Sigma lens.
I said it can work for "me". And also there is a fact that which Scott mentioned above. :)
Scott Pultz wrote:Samyang is working on a 10mm F2.8 APS-C lens. I'm assuming it will be EF mount like their 8mm fisheye.
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Re: Super Wide with Metabone Speed Booster?

PostSat Feb 09, 2013 10:26 pm

gliderpilotdw wrote:Ok I'm sorry I forgot about that. So forget about the canon 10-22.
Lets take the Rokinon/Samyang 14mm cine lens.
I'm not sure if it is wide enough, even with the Speed Booster.


The Samyang 14mm T3.1 ciné lens mounted on the BMCC MFT camera via the Metabones Speed Booster will have an angle of view similar to a 10mm lens without the Speed Booster with the light gathering capability of about a T2.2 lens. I think that meets your criteria for a lens. It will achieve approximately the same angle of view then as if it were a 23mm EF lens mounted on a full-frame camera like the Canon 5D. Without the Speed Booster, it will look similar to a 32mm lens on a full-frame camera.

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Re: Super Wide with Metabone Speed Booster?

PostSat Mar 02, 2013 8:18 am

rick.lang wrote:
gliderpilotdw wrote:Ok I'm sorry I forgot about that. So forget about the canon 10-22.
Lets take the Rokinon/Samyang 14mm cine lens.
I'm not sure if it is wide enough, even with the Speed Booster.


The Samyang 14mm T3.1 ciné lens mounted on the BMCC MFT camera via the Metabones Speed Booster will have an angle of view similar to a 10mm lens without the Speed Booster with the light gathering capability of about a T2.2 lens. I think that meets your criteria for a lens. It will achieve approximately the same angle of view then as if it were a 23mm EF lens mounted on a full-frame camera like the Canon 5D. Without the Speed Booster, it will look similar to a 32mm lens on a full-frame camera.

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Yes but Metabones is not giving any exact time about their calendar on Speedbooster Ef to Mft and it makes me think that they gonna make that version simply too late. What do you think? Any solutions except waiting?
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Re: Super Wide with Metabone Speed Booster?

PostSun Mar 03, 2013 8:00 am

Aside from correcting distortion in post, there doesn't seem to be.

I don't mean to sound facetious, but couldn't you just step back further?

We'd all love to get super wide angles, but its something we have to accept with the crop factor of this sensor, and until the Speed booster and MFT version are available.
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Re: Super Wide with Metabone Speed Booster?

PostSun Mar 03, 2013 8:37 am

metaljesus wrote:You can't use EF lenses with the speed booster on the BMCC, because the passive MTF mount means you won't have iris control.


Use your Canon body for iris setting :roll:
And before you say its a chore, rigging your BMCC is not then?
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Re: Super Wide with Metabone Speed Booster?

PostSun Mar 03, 2013 8:39 am

gliderpilotdw wrote:I'm looking forward to buy a BMCC with MFT Mount and the Metaone Speed Booster as an adapter for Canon Lenses.
I need it for interior architecture videos, so I have to get super wide without any fisheye distortion.
I'm a bit confused about all that crop-factor stuff..I've heard that the BMCC + Metabone Adapter has a crop factor like super 35 (~canon 60d).

Which lens would you recommend? How wide can I go?
Do I really have to use fullframe lenses if I'm working with this Adapter or is it enough to take something like the canon 10 - 22?

Thanks,
Dennis


Its not superwide but this is something I would consider with the Speed Booster
http://www.dpreview.com/news/2012/09/07/samyang-24mm-f3-5-tilt-shift-lens
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Re: Super Wide with Metabone Speed Booster?

PostFri Mar 15, 2013 10:38 pm

Metabones Speed Booster will NOT work with EF-S series lenses... EF Only.

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