Tint value in camera vs value in Resolve

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Tint value in camera vs value in Resolve

PostWed Aug 31, 2016 4:31 pm

Just out of curiosity, why don't the numbers match between the tint in camera and the tint value in the raw settings in Resolve?

It would make it easier when trying to find a good tint value in post to use on set with filters that may run a bit green. Mostly... Tiffen filters.
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Re: Tint value in camera vs value in Resolve

PostWed Aug 31, 2016 7:26 pm

Good question. Sometimes I use the camera settings and sometimes if that doesn't seem correct, then use temperature and tint and exposure in Resolve. It's all so painless switching project settings around to suit your needs.


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Re: Tint value in camera vs value in Resolve

PostWed Aug 31, 2016 7:36 pm

Paul have you noticed this in the public 4.0 beta? Whereby the correct metadata regarding tint value is not being transfer into Resolve, when you select "As Shot" in the raw tab? I didn't notice this during earlier beta tests (might have missed it). However, it would not make sense for Resolve to override the DPs tint selection and arbitrarily assign some default. I will have to test this tonight.
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Re: Tint value in camera vs value in Resolve

PostWed Aug 31, 2016 7:56 pm

Scott Stacy wrote:Paul have you noticed this in the public 4.0 beta? Whereby the correct metadata regarding tint value is not being transfer into Resolve, when you select "As Shot" in the raw tab? I didn't notice this during earlier beta tests (might have missed it). However, it would not make sense for Resolve to override the DPs tint selection and arbitrarily assign some default. I will have to test this tonight.


I don't think it's overriding the settings, I think the settings just have different number values but they look the exact same. So for instance, 15 on the camera would equal 7 in Resolve. Those aren't exact numbers, but later today when I'm done shooting, I'll move this stuff into Resolve can let you guys know. I'm shooting everything at +15 tint today since I'm using a Tiffen UltraContrast 2 (adds green) PLUS Tiffen IRND filters, which, as well all know, add green.

Funny thing is, with Prelim testing, since the 4.6k leans slightly toward magenta, the green tint (from one filter only, not stacking 2) combats the magenta bias. If stacking Tiffen filters, right now I go with +15 (+5 more than the default of +10 for anything 4500K and higher) and that seems to work. I might have to go a little stronger though, so maybe +18. I'll have to play around in Resolve to figure that out.
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Re: Tint value in camera vs value in Resolve

PostThu Sep 01, 2016 1:45 am

PaulDelVecchio wrote:I think the settings just have different number values but they look the exact same. So for instance, 15 on the camera would equal 7 in Resolve.


Interesting, would love to hear about what you find out after you bring your clips into Resolve. But ... it does seem odd, and a little disorienting, that the numbers wouldn't correspond with the tint adjustment value, as the value in Resolve is specific for the UM via metadata.

So, I did a test tonight. WB was set at 3050 and tint set to -5. I brought the DNGs into Resolve and Resolve showed WB 2997 and tint -11.05.
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Re: Tint value in camera vs value in Resolve

PostThu Sep 01, 2016 3:14 am

Temperature and Tint are calculated for DNG's rather than stored as explicit numbers so it's likely rounding/processing differences, but nothing to worry about. You'll notice Adobe Camera RAW will show the numbers different to Resolve also.
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Re: Tint value in camera vs value in Resolve

PostThu Sep 01, 2016 5:03 am

Scott Stacy wrote:
PaulDelVecchio wrote:I think the settings just have different number values but they look the exact same. So for instance, 15 on the camera would equal 7 in Resolve.


Interesting, would love to hear about what you find out after you bring your clips into Resolve. But ... it does seem odd, and a little disorienting, that the numbers wouldn't correspond with the tint adjustment value, as the value in Resolve is specific for the UM via metadata.

So, I did a test tonight. WB was set at 3050 and tint set to -5. I brought the DNGs into Resolve and Resolve showed WB 2997 and tint -11.05.


It would be nice if it matched because then I could find a good starting number in Resolve and then match it to the camera, but it's really not a big deal. It's basically a little more trial and error until I find a good tint number to start with.
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Re: Tint value in camera vs value in Resolve

PostFri Sep 02, 2016 4:12 am

Looking forward to your conclusions, Paul, regarding appropriate tint values with the Mini 4.6K. I've been shooting raw so it really didn't matter a lot, but now I want to use ProRes 444 as my default and get closer to the appropriate tint values.


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