URSA Mini 4.6 Pro Lens Suggestions
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 9:44 am
Hey everyone.
So I've spent likely far to much time attempting to research/find the exact answers that I'm looking for across the internet, and so it just now dawned upon me to register here and get feedback from people with experience. With that said, I apologize in advance if this is a common question or is otherwise something that I could have found with some digging through the forum. I also will apologize in advance if I use incorrect grammar, if I end up repeating myself, or if I otherwise start rambling—I haven't slept in almost 40 hours now so needles to say Im about to crash once I finish typing this
I'm currently in the middle of pre-production for a short film a buddy and I are making. I'm not a novice when it comes to filming/operating a camera, but this short film is special as for this project I wish/am able to dip my toe into the realm of a professional, cinematic camera—something that I have yet to do. I have had experience with professional grade cameras before such as the Red One (yeah, it's been awhile) and the related workflow for handling the larger files, I just have yet to use one to film a short film. Obviously having registered here the camera I will be using for this project is a Blackmagic camera, specifically I will be using the URSA Mini Pro 4.6k. My concern is with selecting appropriate lenses, which is why I am here right now. Regrettably, I only have the most basic understanding of lenses and their functions (Focal Length, Aperture, ISO, etc). My knowledge is extensive enough to know how to use these functions, but my current issue is more technical and beyond my understanding.
My problem is I do not know what camera lenses work best with the camera and the specific format I wish to film in. To try and explain this as simply as I can in my current mindset: I know that I would like to shoot in the camera's 4.6k 2.4:1 format. Now in my extensive research and attempt at learning as much as I could about sensors and how they interact with lenses, the concern that kept popping up was crop factor. I am confused on how that relationship works with this particular camera and further if this even applies to the 2.4:1 format, as (how I imagine it) unlike true anamorphic, the 2.4:1 format is essentially the exact same sensor/frame as the 4.6k format only in 2.4:1 the camera simply doesn't capture the spaces in the frame where the black bars are. Or to put it in other words—the only difference to my understanding between filming in 2.4:1 and filming in 4.6k and then adding black bars in post is that 2.4:1 saves data when recording.
Just some extra information: currently I am only able to rent the camera and any lenses from Borrowlenses (or other places, but I am most familiar with them) if that helps give an idea of how limited(?) my selection of lenses is. Also, I prefer to work with prime lenses but its not something I will refuse to reconsider. Ok, Im starting to lose myself here, please bear with me.
My underlining question(s) is will lenses be cropped while filming in the 2.4:1 format? Will they be cropped if I simply film in 4.6k and then add the bars in post? If there is simply no way around cropped lenses with this camera, then can anyone recommend lenses while also specifying what the adjusted focal length is? OR if there are lenses that wont be cropped in either the 4.6k or the 2.4:1 format could you list those instead? Before all my confusion, research, and more confusion I was eyeing the Rokinon Xeen prime lenses—so hey, if anyone knows if those lenses are cropped or not that sure would potentially save a lot of trouble for me.
To those who read through this, you have my thanks. To those who actually can offer advice/suggestions you have my gratitude. I have no idea if what I wrote makes sense to any of you, I'm at the point now where I may as well be drunk. I just wanted to type this now before I forget when I awake, and hopefully by then there will be some responses
So I've spent likely far to much time attempting to research/find the exact answers that I'm looking for across the internet, and so it just now dawned upon me to register here and get feedback from people with experience. With that said, I apologize in advance if this is a common question or is otherwise something that I could have found with some digging through the forum. I also will apologize in advance if I use incorrect grammar, if I end up repeating myself, or if I otherwise start rambling—I haven't slept in almost 40 hours now so needles to say Im about to crash once I finish typing this
I'm currently in the middle of pre-production for a short film a buddy and I are making. I'm not a novice when it comes to filming/operating a camera, but this short film is special as for this project I wish/am able to dip my toe into the realm of a professional, cinematic camera—something that I have yet to do. I have had experience with professional grade cameras before such as the Red One (yeah, it's been awhile) and the related workflow for handling the larger files, I just have yet to use one to film a short film. Obviously having registered here the camera I will be using for this project is a Blackmagic camera, specifically I will be using the URSA Mini Pro 4.6k. My concern is with selecting appropriate lenses, which is why I am here right now. Regrettably, I only have the most basic understanding of lenses and their functions (Focal Length, Aperture, ISO, etc). My knowledge is extensive enough to know how to use these functions, but my current issue is more technical and beyond my understanding.
My problem is I do not know what camera lenses work best with the camera and the specific format I wish to film in. To try and explain this as simply as I can in my current mindset: I know that I would like to shoot in the camera's 4.6k 2.4:1 format. Now in my extensive research and attempt at learning as much as I could about sensors and how they interact with lenses, the concern that kept popping up was crop factor. I am confused on how that relationship works with this particular camera and further if this even applies to the 2.4:1 format, as (how I imagine it) unlike true anamorphic, the 2.4:1 format is essentially the exact same sensor/frame as the 4.6k format only in 2.4:1 the camera simply doesn't capture the spaces in the frame where the black bars are. Or to put it in other words—the only difference to my understanding between filming in 2.4:1 and filming in 4.6k and then adding black bars in post is that 2.4:1 saves data when recording.
Just some extra information: currently I am only able to rent the camera and any lenses from Borrowlenses (or other places, but I am most familiar with them) if that helps give an idea of how limited(?) my selection of lenses is. Also, I prefer to work with prime lenses but its not something I will refuse to reconsider. Ok, Im starting to lose myself here, please bear with me.
My underlining question(s) is will lenses be cropped while filming in the 2.4:1 format? Will they be cropped if I simply film in 4.6k and then add the bars in post? If there is simply no way around cropped lenses with this camera, then can anyone recommend lenses while also specifying what the adjusted focal length is? OR if there are lenses that wont be cropped in either the 4.6k or the 2.4:1 format could you list those instead? Before all my confusion, research, and more confusion I was eyeing the Rokinon Xeen prime lenses—so hey, if anyone knows if those lenses are cropped or not that sure would potentially save a lot of trouble for me.
To those who read through this, you have my thanks. To those who actually can offer advice/suggestions you have my gratitude. I have no idea if what I wrote makes sense to any of you, I'm at the point now where I may as well be drunk. I just wanted to type this now before I forget when I awake, and hopefully by then there will be some responses