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Re: DNxHD DEMAND

PostMon May 21, 2018 11:40 am

Ho hope like many other to have more codec as possible, not only for me, but also for delivery footage to other.
Dnxhr is not avaible, May be a limit of 4.6k size? May be dnx work only with some size and proportion?
I know prores, cineform work with and size and shape, the only rule is that size must be 8 multiplex (May be for a compressione matrix), but today i could think.that dnx is in the some way limited to X standard size?
If it is like i thought, better to have in fine size like hd, fhd, uhd instead of Nothing like now. Broadcast use different sensor but output Broadcast size, and it have dnx

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Re: DNxHD DEMAND

PostMon May 21, 2018 12:53 pm

There is no mod 8 rule for ProRes nor Cineform nor DNxHR. You can export any "fancy" frame size.
We should focus on DNxHR, not DNxHD which is by design(/licensing?) limited to HD and strict broadcast frame sizes.
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Re: DNxHD DEMAND

PostTue May 29, 2018 11:25 pm

Bumping this request back up. Was hoping that firmware 5.x for the Ursa Mini Pro would feature DNxHR and Gen 4 color science like whats been available for firmware 5.x on the Ursa Broadcast.

Thought they might have been waiting for CineGear to update the UMP but with the latest firmware release not including either feature I'm starting to worry they may never arrive. Hoping that if we make enough noise for demand that it won't fall by the wayside for development on other cameras.
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Re: DNxHD DEMAND

PostThu May 31, 2018 12:27 am

Yes for DNxHR!
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Re: DNxHD DEMAND

PostFri Jun 01, 2018 4:19 am

+1 for DNxHR on all Ursa Mini cameras
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Re: DNxHD DEMAND

PostFri Jun 01, 2018 7:16 am

Serious question: your pc can read Prores and export footage into DNxHD without any visual loss, right? Assuming any footage you have will need to be graded/edit anyway (and therefore need to be re-rendered), what is the problem? I honestly might be missing something here.
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Re: DNxHD DEMAND

PostFri Jun 01, 2018 11:48 am

Sean van Berlo wrote:Serious question: your pc can read Prores and export footage into DNxHD without any visual loss, right? Assuming any footage you have will need to be graded/edit anyway (and therefore need to be re-rendered), what is the problem? I honestly might be missing something here.


Here's a post facility explaining why they have switched to DNxHR:

http://blog.cineground.com/2017/05/16/12/
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Re: DNxHD DEMAND

PostFri Jun 01, 2018 2:58 pm

Yes, even if I don't need it.

It's always been greyed out in the menu since the beginning, and zero updates since launch.
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Re: DNxHD DEMAND

PostFri Jun 01, 2018 3:53 pm

Yes, +1 for DNx on the BMPCC 4K as well.
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Re: DNxHD DEMAND

PostSat Jun 02, 2018 3:36 pm

Pat, thanks for that link. I always optimize my raw to ProRes HQ for editing/grading in Resolve on my iMac. Wondering if anyone here would recommend DNxHR as a better intermediate codec for my use case?


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Re: DNxHD DEMAND

PostSun Jun 03, 2018 4:48 am

IMHO, it depends on your environment. If you have clients with specific needs, you have to serve them.
As long as it's personal use, there's not much of a difference, at least not quality wise.
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Re: DNxHD DEMAND

PostSun Jun 03, 2018 9:41 pm

I have had a number of issues in the PC world with strange gamma shifts when using Prores, DNx encodings fixed all these, both PC and Mac clients once persuaded have had no issues. Prores is fine for an all Mac workflow but introduce a PC and it becomes a lottery.
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Re: DNxHD DEMAND

PostThu Jun 14, 2018 8:35 pm

Here's my annual reply, reiterating strong need for DNxHD/R please. Blackmagic needs to be thinking about optimized playback and rendering on PCs in 2018. I'm a life long Mac person, but I find PCs are so much more powerful for 4K workflows with Resolve and Adobe Premiere.
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Re: DNxHD DEMAND

PostFri Jun 15, 2018 11:48 am

I agree that this is a very important feature that is not only needed but is also becoming required in today's professional post world.
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Re: DNxHD DEMAND

PostFri Jun 15, 2018 7:57 pm

rick.lang wrote:Pat, thanks for that link. I always optimize my raw to ProRes HQ for editing/grading in Resolve on my iMac. Wondering if anyone here would recommend DNxHR as a better intermediate codec for my use case?


Since you're on a mac, you probably wouldn't gain much, though QuickTime is notorious for inconsistent color on other platforms.

It is definitely becoming a necessity for more and more though, because quicktime in windows is bad, and macs are falling ever farther behind (due, I suspect, to a lack of interest in Apple's part).
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Re: DNxHD DEMAND

PostSat Jun 16, 2018 8:34 am

Uli Plank wrote:You can process ProRes on PCs without QT, using DR 14 or even Premiere Pro (but it's more mature in DR).
How about DR 15Bx Is this same capability in there as well?

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Re: DNxHD DEMAND

PostSat Jun 16, 2018 10:52 am

Yes, no problem opening ProRes on a PC. H.264 had more problems now after the last Windows update ;-)
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Re: DNxHD DEMAND

PostMon Sep 30, 2019 6:13 pm

Has this ever been acknowledged by Blackmagic staff? Is DNxHD/DNxHR going to be supported by the older Blackmagic Design URSA cameras?

About to purchase a Mini 4K EF.
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Re: DNxHD DEMAND

PostMon Sep 30, 2019 6:35 pm

I think not. BlackmagicRAW killed any need for DNx codecs.


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Re: DNxHD DEMAND

PostMon Sep 30, 2019 7:02 pm

Me too... I was in the camp to get DNX but braw is now my go-to codec for everything.

timbutt2 wrote:I think not. BlackmagicRAW killed any need for DNx codecs.


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Re: DNxHD DEMAND

PostMon Sep 30, 2019 8:10 pm

While,their may not be any updates to DNxHD, you can still use this codec on the older Cameras that supports it. Unlikely it will get added to any other cameras.
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Re: DNxHD DEMAND

PostMon Sep 30, 2019 9:51 pm

Its available for all in the new video assist: Might be the solution for some.

ProRes 422 HQ, ProRes 422, ProRes 422 LT, DNxHD 220x, DNxHD 145, DNxHD 45, DNxHD 220x MXF, DNxHD 145 MXF, DNxHD 45 MXF, DNxHR HQX MXF, DNxHR HQX, DNxHR SQ, DNxHR LB, DNxHR SQ MXF, DNxHR LB MXF.

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Re: DNxHD DEMAND

PostMon Sep 30, 2019 10:58 pm

+1 DNxHD120 plus others MXF
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Re: DNxHD DEMAND

PostTue Oct 01, 2019 1:19 am

Aren’t these available on the old video assist 4K. I’m pretty sure mine has the DNX stuff. Seems like the Ursa broadcast would be more likely to carry these.
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Re: DNxHD DEMAND

PostTue Oct 01, 2019 1:59 am

Yes the Ursa Broadcast was a he last camera to get DNxHD, however it only works when shooting 1080i.
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Re: DNxHD DEMAND

PostTue Oct 01, 2019 8:57 am

timbutt2 wrote:I think not. BlackmagicRAW killed any need for DNx codecs.


Okay... but BRAW has not been announced/promised for the URSA Mini 4K. So now thinking of NOT getting it.

How about a filesize/quality comparison between the DNx flavors and BRAW compressions? Anyone ever seen one of those?
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