How to guide for filtering Sigma 8-16 on the cheap

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How to guide for filtering Sigma 8-16 on the cheap

PostTue Mar 19, 2013 4:55 am

Use 77mm or 82mm filters on your Sigma 8-16

Sorry I don't have any photos yet, but this process is pretty straight forward.

1) Purchase some Schedule 40 4" PVC pipe
2) Cut about 1/2" off of the end
3) Attach an 86->82mm STEP DOWN ring to the end of the PVC pipe using some gorilla tape around the edges.

4) At this point, the PVC pipe is too wide of a diameter to fit properly over the sigma lens. Two options:

a) Buy a new sigma lens cap, cut it, and attach the pipe to it. I have the lens cap but haven't gone this route yet.

b) Add some padding to the inside of the PVC so that it fits snugly over the sigma lens. I used two layers of 3M Heavy Duty mounting tape, leaving the red plastic backing on. It is a perfect fit.

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If you have an 82mm filter, you can attach this to the bracket and then mount it on your lens. Although I haven't tried, I suspect that you can do a full 8mm with an 82mm filter.

Otherwise purchase a 82mm->77mm STEP DOWN ring. Then use 77mm filters.

You will get some vignetting with 77mm filters at 8mm. If you are shooting 2.4:1 then it is not a problem. Otherwise you need to zoom to approximately 9.5mm to completely clear up the vignetting.

Hope this helps people filter their 8-16 lenses!

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Re: How to guide for filtering Sigma 8-16 on the cheap

PostTue Mar 19, 2013 4:56 am

P.S. I would love to post this on BMCUser, but I have not been able to verify my email and I can't make a post asking for him due to this issue. So if somebody can help me out there then I can spread the word to them on this topic as well!
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Re: How to guide for filtering Sigma 8-16 on the cheap

PostTue Mar 19, 2013 9:55 am

Scott,

thanks a ton, great! One plea: could you provide some pictures for the ones like me (not native English speaker so some terms might be more obvious with a pic beside and mechanically dumb).

I can copy and paste your instrcutions and post it at BMCuser if you want me to.

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Re: How to guide for filtering Sigma 8-16 on the cheap

PostWed Mar 27, 2013 11:41 pm

Sorry I still haven't had time to post pictures.

However I can confirm that using this technique and an 82mm filter, there are no vignetting problems at 8mm on the Sigma or with the Samyang 8mm Fisheye! This is great news for the fisheye. In my opinion 77mm filters on the 8-16 at 9.5mm is also fine.
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Re: How to guide for filtering Sigma 8-16 on the cheap

PostThu Mar 28, 2013 10:50 am

Thanks a lot. Going to try this.
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Re: How to guide for filtering Sigma 8-16 on the cheap

PostThu Mar 28, 2013 5:15 pm

Hearnie,

it would be awesome if you can post a photo then! THX!
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Re: How to guide for filtering Sigma 8-16 on the cheap

PostFri Mar 29, 2013 3:22 pm

I had to order the step down rings. I will post photos when I do it.
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Re: How to guide for filtering Sigma 8-16 on the cheap

PostFri Mar 29, 2013 3:40 pm

Thanks, looking forward to it!
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Re: How to guide for filtering Sigma 8-16 on the cheap

PostTue Apr 02, 2013 12:14 am

Scott can you describe how to attach the 86mm step down ring to the PVC pipe? Mine looks quite a bit smaller than the pvc pipe - like tape just wouldn't attach it in the first place.
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Re: How to guide for filtering Sigma 8-16 on the cheap

PostSun Apr 07, 2013 8:46 pm

Here's how I did this. I found a rubber plumbing pipe with a screw clamp instead of PVC. I found it in Home Depot in the same aisle as the PVC. I like this solution much better. It does work also; my 77mm ND filter works from about 9.5mm onwards, just like he said. There's a small amount of vignetting at 8mm. If you were cropping anamorphic you could probably get away with it.

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PostSun Apr 07, 2013 9:03 pm

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Re: How to guide for filtering Sigma 8-16 on the cheap

PostWed Apr 17, 2013 4:43 am

E D I T for intelligibility:

Just got my BMC and a owldolly matte box II, which let me put a filter in front without vignetting at 8mm:
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Re: How to guide for filtering Sigma 8-16 on the cheap

PostWed Apr 17, 2013 6:19 am

I would rather pay someone to make this, I don't have the time or patients...Any takers?
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PostWed Apr 17, 2013 11:14 am

Darryl Gregory wrote:I would rather pay someone to make this, I don't have the time or patients...Any takers?

I'll trade you one. Buy me an SLR Magic 25 for the pocket camera.
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Re: How to guide for filtering Sigma 8-16 on the cheap

PostWed Apr 17, 2013 3:29 pm

Darryl Gregory wrote:I would rather pay someone to make this, I don't have the time or patients...Any takers?


Just buy a Tokina 11-16mm. I'm selling my Sigma on eBay to get a Tokina now that the flange issue has been solved, its not fast enough and the filter issue is a pain in the backside. I have a lovely 77mm Heliopan Variable ND that I can't use on the Sigma.
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Re: How to guide for filtering Sigma 8-16 on the cheap

PostTue Apr 23, 2013 8:23 pm

So at what fstop does this lens start to look like crap? what is the sweet spot or ideal aperture?
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Re: How to guide for filtering Sigma 8-16 on the cheap

PostTue Apr 23, 2013 10:27 pm

Adrian Musto wrote:
Darryl Gregory wrote:I would rather pay someone to make this, I don't have the time or patients...Any takers?


Just buy a Tokina 11-16mm. I'm selling my Sigma on eBay to get a Tokina now that the flange issue has been solved, its not fast enough and the filter issue is a pain in the backside. I have a lovely 77mm Heliopan Variable ND that I can't use on the Sigma.


Unless your filter blocks IR, you probably won't want to use it for higher ND values.
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Re: How to guide for filtering Sigma 8-16 on the cheap

PostTue Apr 23, 2013 10:29 pm

cls105 wrote:So at what fstop does this lens start to look like crap? what is the sweet spot or ideal aperture?


Tough call. At F16 the diffraction blurs out the moire/aliasing that this camera exhibits. The downside is that any significant dust on the front of your lens will be visible.

Around F8 is good if you aren't in a heavy aliasing situation...
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Re: How to guide for filtering Sigma 8-16 on the cheap

PostSat Apr 27, 2013 5:52 pm

I no longer have a BMCC and am looking to sell my Sigma 8-16mm with filter adapters.

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