Help Choosing a Wide Angle Lens

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MartinVidic

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Help Choosing a Wide Angle Lens

PostSat Nov 11, 2017 3:27 pm

Hi There. I got close to NO experience with wide angle lenses, so i think I would ask here. Tomorrow im going to this place called ZONGO between the andes and the jungle in Bolivia and I have to rent a wide angle lens for my Ursa Mini Pro.

The 2 lenses I could rent are 18-35mm or 11-16, but I can only choose ONE.

So question: If you pause this video here:

at 3:08... you can see a little house in the left corner. That's where we will be shooting. If you want to see the walls in the background, just from looking at the picture... would you go with 18-35 or 11-16 ?
Do you think 18 would be enough, because I only own lenses from 35mm up and I can only rent one lens.
This place is pretty far away from civilization, so I can't go back to get another lens once I'm there.
Any opinion would be gr8, THANX

The shoot is not about landscape, but the landscape is part of the story.
Would you dare to go there with a 35mm as your lowest focal length knowing that you might waste some landscape-shot-oportunitues?
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Re: Help Choosing a Wide Angle Lens

PostSat Nov 11, 2017 3:32 pm

3:06 is going to be the background in most shots, but from next to that house.
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Re: Help Choosing a Wide Angle Lens

PostSat Nov 11, 2017 4:07 pm

So then what is it about?
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Re: Help Choosing a Wide Angle Lens

PostSat Nov 11, 2017 5:40 pm

Martin, you know what your 35mm will do, so imagine using roughly twice the field of view for an 18mm lens or three times with an 11mm lens. In my opinion, going all the way to 11mm may be visually extreme whereas somewhere in the 16mm range may give a reasonably ‘normal’ feeling and will avoid vignetting due to the matte box so your filters will still be useful. But the 18-35mm range is all useful and that might be a better utilitarian solution. My aesthetic of course, but 11mm isn’t going to be pleasing with any pan/tilt camera motion.


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Re: Help Choosing a Wide Angle Lens

PostSat Nov 11, 2017 6:04 pm

I second what Rick stated. I had the 11-16 when it first came out, only the 16mm side was really useful, unless you need a extreme foreground detail in the shot, which you will get with the 11-14mm part of the zoom. The 11-16 is an “Ultra Wide Angle” lens, and has limited applications. The 11-16mm works with a S16 camera like the Pocket or Mini cameras. That said, my favorite WA on S16 is 9.5mm, which would be Cine format.

Also 18mm is going to give you about a 80-degree AOV. A 16mm is going to put you at about 105mm AOV, very extreme. If you have any experience with 135mm shooting, 80-degree AOV is what a 24mm kens will give you, once of the most often used wide angles on 135, along with 28mm (which would be about 20mm on your Ursa Mini/S35 format Camera).

Get a IPhone app called “Viewfinder” and program it with your camera and the lens focal length options, then you can see the AOV you are going to get with a given lens. Use this to assist with your choice.

Note: All AOV based on horizontal measurements in 16:9 Aspect Ratio for comparison
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Re: Help Choosing a Wide Angle Lens

PostSat Nov 11, 2017 7:24 pm

Thanx! That was actually very helpful!!!

Jason: Its about 2 hippies / outcasts living there, but it then turns into one my weird fitness tutorials.

Rick: I wish I could get a 16-35 then. but actually as you said "the 18-35mm range is all useful" since i don't even own a 24, maybe thats what i should use and then work with 18.

Denny: YES, 90degrees should be more than enough. Will get that app. i passed this place twice but didnt even bring a phone.

THANX Will get the 18-35 then :)
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Re: Help Choosing a Wide Angle Lens

PostSun Nov 12, 2017 6:23 pm

Glad to help. Looking forward to seeing your shoot in that site!


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