The New BMCC (s)...

Hope this doesn't break forum rules, thanks to Abobakr for the link;

CVP put up a preorder
http://www.creativevideo.co.uk/index.ph ... +camera+4k

Hope this doesn't break forum rules, thanks to Abobakr for the link;

CVP put up a preorder
http://www.creativevideo.co.uk/index.ph ... +camera+4k

Marcel can you put me down for 2 or 3?
How much CVP.ULL do you have?

[CaptainHook]

Nobody has the 4K version that I know of

John has confirmed on Twitter he's had one "for a while".

Nobody has the 4K version that I know of

John has confirmed on Twitter he's had one "for a while".

Really? missed that post, I thought he just received the MFT BMCC?

Thanks Hook

Hope this doesn't break forum rules, thanks to Abobakr for the link;

CVP put up a preorder
http://www.creativevideo.co.uk/index.ph ... +camera+4k

Marcel can you put me down for 2 or 3?
How much CVP.ULL do you have?

I'm not a CVP rep or deal with them, I'm ordering through Mediacast in the Middle East, put down an order for the 4k and pocket camera, I just found the link and found it to confirm my doubts, I was hoping it was not a late april fools joke, that would have started world war 3 hahah

[CaptainHook]

Really? missed that post, I thought he just received the MFT BMCC?

Thanks Hook

Someone asked John how it compares to current models and he replied:
"I'm gagging to but I'll wait for the official announcement."

Obviously he won't break his NDA.. i would link to twitter but it's against forum rules.

Hope this doesn't break forum rules, thanks to Abobakr for the link;

CVP put up a preorder
http://www.creativevideo.co.uk/index.ph ... +camera+4k

Marcel can you put me down for 2 or 3?
How much CVP.ULL do you have?

I'm not a CVP rep or deal with them, I'm ordering through Mediacast in the Middle East, put down an order for the 4k and pocket camera, I just found the link and found it to confirm my doubts, I was hoping it was not a late april fools joke, that would have started world war 3 hahah

Haha That's what I was thinking, but not after confirmation, I want one of each also,
How is your credit? lol JK

I think I may have 2 on on pre-order but I can't confirm till Tomorrow since everyone is drunk tonight

Haha That's what I was thinking, but not after confirmation, I want one of each also,
How is your credit? lol JK

What credit! haha, lets see, few more hours

Even more reason to leak more photos, common people, drunken photos!

Really? missed that post, I thought he just received the MFT BMCC?

Thanks Hook

Someone asked John how it compares to current models and he replied:
"I'm gagging to but I'll wait for the official announcement."

Obviously he won't break his NDA.. i would link to twitter but it's against forum rules.

Well if John is gagging we can rest assured it will gag us to oblivion
What a sweet thing...To die from a $4K S35 4K camera gagging you to death!
lol I would die for it! Till 6K came along anyway.

UPDATE: And before you say it, I mean an affordable 6K camera, not that dragon X crack pipe with that Red Monkey on your back.

[CaptainHook]

He also wants to address some misunderstandings, but yes.

He also wants to address some misunderstandings, but yes.

misunderstandings? that must be a third party 4k recorder?

He also wants to address some misunderstandings, but yes.

misunderstandings? that must be a third party 4k recorder?

maybe it's the MFT mount that Creative Video is advertising as a preorder? BMD banner didn't say anything about MFT.

I thought MFT lens are too small for Super 35 sensor?

I thought MFT lens are too small for Super 35 sensor?

It is, so that's not an option.

[CaptainHook]

misunderstandings? that must be a third party 4k recorder?

Prob best just to wait for official announcement at this stage. It's hard to with so much excitement i know.

Reckon Blackmagic really need to be streaming that news conference.

misunderstandings? that must be a third party 4k recorder?

Prob best just to wait for official announcement at this stage. It's hard to with so much excitement i know.

I got it "BMD really wants to keep it in the family till they're ready to talk"
Funny thing is who the hell is the Family?

All of us! If we are not family buying and loving BMD cameras,
then we are outcasts wasting our money on false hope!

Just kidding love you Grant! call me tomorrow I left my number with that girl at your room# Bellagio!

I thought MFT lens are too small for Super 35 sensor?

It is, so that's not an option.

So why are CVP taking order for MFT version with a S35 sensor?

In the next few months there will be plenty of BMC V1 on ebay at a knock down price

I thought MFT lens are too small for Super 35 sensor?

It is, so that's not an option.

So why are CVP taking order for MFT version with a S35 sensor?

Because they can, By the way Hook, Thanks for everything, you are truly one of the best people
on this forum, you could have easily ignored me tonight, And I wouldn't blame you for it.

Thanks

I'm equally excited by the pocket cinema, all that c mount and S16 glass that you can pick up for pennies.

Anamorphic crop mode would be nice.

So when is the Press Conference scheduled?

According to slashcam.de this is probably the sensor the s35 model is using:
http://www.cmosis.com/products/standard ... s/cmv12000

You might also wanna know that the global shutter reduces the dynamic range visibly!

Put that passive MFT mount on the BMPC. We won't be able to use electronic Lumix or Olympus lenses, but who cares? with a global shutter there's no need for IS. Think of all the PL, M and other glass that will not be able to be used if they only have an EF mount for this camera.

I know S35 is too big for MFT lenses, but one of the charms of that mount is that it is so very versatile, and there are TONS of lenses in different mounts out there that can be adapted.

Do you guys think there is any hope?

BMD entered the list of companies that fully support the Micro Four Thirds format, so I'm a little hopeful.

Put that passive MFT mount on the BMPC. We won't be able to use electronic Lumix or Olympus lenses, but who cares? with a global shutter there's no need for IS. Think of all the PL, M and other glass that will not be able to be used if they only have an EF mount for this camera.

I know S35 is too big for MFT lenses, but one of the charms of that mount is that it is so very versatile, and there are TONS of lenses in different mounts out there that can be adapted.

Do you guys think there is any hope?

BMD entered the list of companies that fully support the Micro Four Thirds format, so I'm a little hopeful.

I agree 100% there should be an MFT S35 in the works but only with a third party adapter of course.
Question is Will it be active? and by who and how much?

But no, I don't think it's possible

there should be an MFT S35 in the works but only with a third party adapter of course.

What kind of adapter, Darryl? The flange distance of the MFT system is very small, that's why it's so flexible. Is it possible to adapt MFT to anything that's not an E mount? (as idiotic as it may be). Sorry if my question is stupid, perhaps I'm just not reading you well

I'm pretty sure there will be another BMPC with a different mount, but I'm thinking it is gonna be a PL one (a la Cinema EOS line).

Fingers crossed for an MFT one, even if it is only passive.

there should be an MFT S35 in the works but only with a third party adapter of course.

What kind of adapter, Darryl? The flange distance of the MFT system is very small, that's why it's so flexible. Is it possible to adapt MFT to anything that's not an E mount? (as idiotic as it may be). Sorry if my question is stupid, perhaps I'm just not reading you well

I'm pretty sure there will be another BMPC with a different mount, but I'm thinking it is gonna be a PL one (a la Cinema EOS line).

Fingers crossed for an MFT one, even if it is only passive.

Yeah good call not reading me well cause I'm drunk, But PL sounds about the only reasonable option.
Good Night!

Lol, good night, Darryl

Ok, call me crazy here, but is there any chance that this might be an Interchangable Mount System camera?
If you look closely, there is some kind of hard edge around the mount, as if it was "floating" on the body.
It looks to me as if it was detatchable. But, then again, why wouldn't BMD list it on the huge banner?

I think I'm just imagining things...

Hi guys, new here.
Was waiting on the 2.5K camera (didnt have pre-order)

How much better will these new cameras be in low light? Im not a technical guy.
on my 6D, at weddings I get pretty awesome results and would like to know if the new larger sensor will get it close to DSLRs in low light.

Also, is Super 35 full frame so my 50mm is 50mm on the new 4K camera?

Hi guys, new here.
Was waiting on the 2.5K camera (didnt have pre-order)

How much better will these new cameras be in low light? Im not a technical guy.
on my 6D, at weddings I get pretty awesome results and would like to know if the new larger sensor will get it close to DSLRs in low light.

Also, is Super 35 full frame so my 50mm is 50mm on the new 4K camera?

Super 35 is still slightly smaller than Full frame I believe.

http://www.abelcine.com/fov/
http://blog.abelcine.com/wp-content/upl ... 012MAY.jpg

http://www.abelcine.com/fov/
http://blog.abelcine.com/wp-content/upl ... 012MAY.jpg

Thanks for those links! Perfect. I see its much better but still a little way off. Much more manageable for my line of work.

Interesting.. but what sensor is this? From the tech specs it sounds pretty much like it could be the CMOSIS CMV12000?

Have the CMV4000 right next to me, while global shutter is nice it has pretty limited dynamic range especially compared to the "current" BMC. To me this was exactly the selling point - the dynamic range and the IQ of the "current" BMC. Of course, higher fps and global shutter would be extremely nice - but if the pay off is just "normal" range/IQ... not this really nice organic feel the current sensor has... so yeah mixed feelings!

Interesting.. but what sensor is this? From the tech specs it sounds pretty much like it could be the CMOSIS CMV12000?

Have the CMV4000 right next to me, while global shutter is nice it has pretty limited dynamic range especially compared to the "current" BMC. To me this was exactly the selling point - the dynamic range and the IQ of the "current" BMC. Of course, higher fps and global shutter would be extremely nice - but if the pay off is just "normal" range/IQ... not this really nice organic feel the current sensor has... so yeah mixed feelings!

completely agree with you, Soeren. The dynamic range of the "V1 BMCC" and the color management became something I don´t want to miss anymore. Lets see tonight.

Interesting.. but what sensor is this? From the tech specs it sounds pretty much like it could be the CMOSIS CMV12000?

Have the CMV4000 right next to me, while global shutter is nice it has pretty limited dynamic range especially compared to the "current" BMC. To me this was exactly the selling point - the dynamic range and the IQ of the "current" BMC. Of course, higher fps and global shutter would be extremely nice - but if the pay off is just "normal" range/IQ... not this really nice organic feel the current sensor has... so yeah mixed feelings!

I think I might wait for more information on this.

My real question is can you monitor out of the mini camera clean? Because that sounds bloody perfect for use with the ATEM TVS. OMG

My only gripe is what is their obsession with Canon EF Mount? Haven't they learned people want to use PL and other types of lenses? My goodness it's like they almost gave you everything you wanted and then suddenly --"meh we will announce a better mount in October again."

My only gripe is what is their obsession with Canon EF Mount? Haven't they learned people want to use PL and other types of lenses? My goodness it's like they almost gave you everything you wanted and then suddenly --"meh we will announce a better mount in October again."

The poster does say ef compatible not ef mount. So itll likely have a widely adaptable base.

My only gripe is what is their obsession with Canon EF Mount? Haven't they learned people want to use PL and other types of lenses? My goodness it's like they almost gave you everything you wanted and then suddenly --"meh we will announce a better mount in October again."

Canon EF Mount on a S35 is what you want if you own Canon or Zeiss glass, IS is a notable feature
and worth it's weight in gold!

Well, I hope this means that a lot of people are going to drop from the BMCC v1 waiting lists so that I get my camera sooner .

Well, I hope this means that a lot of people are going to drop from the BMCC v1 waiting lists so that I get my camera sooner .

I just dropped 2 of them off the waiting list, own one already, I just pre-ordered 2 of each 4K and Pocket cameras.
Have fun with your (soon to be delivered) V1

Well, I hope this means that a lot of people are going to drop from the BMCC v1 waiting lists so that I get my camera sooner .

I just dropped 2 of them off the waiting list, own one already, I just pre-ordered 2 of each 4K and Pocket cameras.
Have fun with your (soon to be delivered) V1

Who the heck already has preorders up?

Well, I hope this means that a lot of people are going to drop from the BMCC v1 waiting lists so that I get my camera sooner .

I just dropped 2 of them off the waiting list, own one already, I just pre-ordered 2 of each 4K and Pocket cameras.
Have fun with your (soon to be delivered) V1

Who the heck already has preorders up?

When you know people, you get things done, I stayed up all night to place my orders first thing this morning, I'm not saying anyone here couldn't get a pre-order in just as I did, but use your imagination.

Just pre-ordered the S35/4K version with CVP in the UK.
http://www.creativevideo.co.uk/index.ph ... mera_4k_ef

Just pre-ordered the S35/4K version with CVP in the UK.
http://www.creativevideo.co.uk/index.ph ... mera_4k_ef

Congratulations Christian, When do you think they will start shipping...
Any clue?

Found this interesting on Hot Rod Cameras twitter feed:

"Big announcement from Blackmagic Designs in a few hours. HRC will also have one of our own

For both current (or new) HRC Blackmagic Cinema camera customer this is good news!!"

I'm intrigued.

Congratulations Christian, When do you think they will start shipping...
Any clue?

I hope BMD will have learned their lesson regarding sensor issues, flange distance issues, and production capacity. I still think it will probably take a while, late 2013 or so. I'm still hoping for some kind of trade-in/upgrade programme, though that might be a bit unrealistic.

My BMCC arrives tomorrow, that has not stopped me placing a pre-order for the 4K version with CVP