Briwil wrote:Peter J. DeCrescenzo wrote:
What delay are you referring to?
The phrase is "
start shipping".
BMD promised they'd
start shipping the new cams by the end of this month. If you take a glance at a calendar, you'll notice the end of July is still several days away. Plenty of time for them to
start shipping by their self-imposed deadline.
See also:
viewtopic.php?p=63406&sid=7e98900098f53bc74d0756cbf4a0a06f#p63406-
Yeah, I've seen that post of yours, and I have to say, that's just you making things up. When did BMD ever say that shipping to the dealer is what they meant by "Shipping July"?
Which, by the way, is what's plastered all over the Pocket's webpage, "Shipping July", not "starts shipping".
Just like it also says the camera shoots Raw, no asterisk mentioning anything about it being added later through a firmware update, so they better hope to god that function is working when it ships or they could very likely have a handful of countries going after them for false advertising.
Stop defending them in every single post, they're not going to give you a free camera.======================
As I explain in the post linked-to above,
most manufacturers don't ship directly to end-user customers. Instead they ship to distributors, who in turn ship to dealers, who then ship to end-user customers. In many cases there can be additional layers in-between, or delays due to customs, etc. It's the rare case of a manufacturer shipping directly to end-users. In general, BMD doesn't ship directly to end-user customers.
Also, when
most manufacturers say something like, "Shipping July", it means that at some point in July,
quite often on the last day of the specified month, they'll
start shipping an unspecified number of products to their distributors. In most cases, a phrase like "Shipping July" doesn't mean shipping will start July 1st. It means shipping will start before the month has ended. I know some people here don't want to believe it, but Aug. 1, 2013 isn't here yet. Again, don't take my word for it, look at a calendar.
In
most cases, manufacturers initially start shipping relatively small quantities of a new product, and then gradually increase the size/quantity of shipment batches as production ramps-up. It's not unusual for the first few batches to be relatively small, with quantities somewhat uneven at first, and then smooth out over time. This means that end-users won't receive products they ordered or pre-ordered all at once, in one huge batch, all at the same time. Far from it. In most cases what instead happens is, at first, only a few end-user customers receive their products, and then over time gradually more & more products are shipped out & received by end-users.
BMD has not published shipment quantity information in the past, and they are adamant that they won't do this, so don't bother asking them to. So, it takes a while before we have a sense of how many cameras are going out and when, and of course this "information" is inherently vague & anecdotal. It is what it is.
The above is not making excuses for BMD. The above is the boring, mundane truth.
I don't have a problem with people (myself included) criticizing BMD when they actually make a mistake -- such as if they actually miss one of their self-imposed deadlines -- but I do have a problem with people slandering BMD about things they haven't actually done.
In this case, anyone complaining about BMD "missing" this year's "Shipping July" deadline, when it hasn't yet passed, is making a fool of themselves, or worse.
For example, EOSHD: I have a problem with him slandering BMD because he can't read a calendar and doesn't know how manufacturing & shipping typically works.
Concerning RAW: BMD has stated publicly many, many times that the new cams
may or may not ship initially with the new lossless compressed RAW feature enabled, and that at worst it would be available as a free firmware update "soon" after initial shipping. There's nothing unusual about this. Many manufacturers have made features available in the same/similar fashion, and will do again in future.
Meanwhile, prepare to release the hounds -- or not -- come Aug. 1, 2013.
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