ProRes, 422 4K To Resolve 10

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ProRes, 422 4K To Resolve 10

PostThu Apr 11, 2013 9:01 am

Will Resolve 10 take the ProRes 422 4K files from the new 4K production camera? If so, to what level could it be manipulated, considering they won't have DNG for a while after its release?
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Re: ProRes, 422 4K To Resolve 10

PostThu Apr 11, 2013 11:16 am

Resolve will indeed work with any flavour of prores you care to put in it.
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Re: ProRes, 422 4K To Resolve 10

PostThu Apr 11, 2013 11:01 pm

Thank you Pete...
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Re: ProRes, 422 4K To Resolve 10

PostThu Apr 11, 2013 11:21 pm

Brightsphere1 wrote:Will Resolve 10 take the ProRes 422 4K files from the new 4K production camera? If so, to what level could it be manipulated, considering they won't have DNG for a while after its release?


ProRes is amazing at 10bit 4:2:2. I usually shoot getting it somewhere near what I want the final image to look like, as most people do (aside from exposure - I'm talking color and ratios). I've done stuff with a blue-ish background and a warmer skin tone (that Hollywood Blockbuster look) and I didnt get the right shade of blue on set. So in Resolve, with the ProRes, I was able to shift it to the right shade of blue and shift the skin tones a little bit to get them looking just right.

ProRes is amazing. Raw is a bit better, but I wouldn't be embarrassed or bummed when shooting ProRes. You'll be able to push it around just fine.
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Re: ProRes, 422 4K To Resolve 10

PostFri Apr 12, 2013 12:05 am

Just to clarify, the free Lite version of Resolve is limited to 1080p output (export).

The full version of Resolve that comes with the BMCC & BMPC-4K cameras can export 4K and more.
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Re: ProRes, 422 4K To Resolve 10

PostFri Apr 12, 2013 12:14 am

Peter J. DeCrescenzo wrote:Just to clarify, the free Lite version of Resolve is limited to 1080p.

The full version of Resolve that comes with the BMCC & BMPC-4K cameras can work with 4K.


Just for tha last bit of clarity, Lite versions will ingest all the resolutions that full versions will but will only allow 1080p or smaller timelines and output. The distinction is an important one for many who do not have a full version (though since the BMPC has a full version shipped with it it shouldn't matter to users of it that much.
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Re: ProRes, 422 4K To Resolve 10

PostFri Apr 12, 2013 12:19 am

Pete Proniewicz-Brooks wrote:
Peter J. DeCrescenzo wrote:Just to clarify, the free Lite version of Resolve is limited to 1080p.

The full version of Resolve that comes with the BMCC & BMPC-4K cameras can work with 4K.


Just for tha last bit of clarity, Lite versions will ingest all the resolutions that full versions will but will only allow 1080p or smaller timelines and output. The distinction is an important one for many who do not have a full version (though since the BMPC has a full version shipped with it it shouldn't matter to users of it that much.


Thanks, Pete! I've now corrected my previous post. Cheers.
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Re: ProRes, 422 4K To Resolve 10

PostFri Apr 12, 2013 12:46 am

Thanks guys. I have a three year old Mac Tower 2x2.26 GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon with 6 gigs of memory. Will this be enough to color correct and edit in 2K? I plan to acquire in 4K bump it down to 2K and even use some HD Stock footage unless I can find some affordable 2K stock footage.. Peace...
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Re: ProRes, 422 4K To Resolve 10

PostFri Apr 12, 2013 5:00 am

Brightsphere1 wrote:Thanks guys. I have a three year old Mac Tower 2x2.26 GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon with 6 gigs of memory. Will this be enough to color correct and edit in 2K? I plan to acquire in 4K bump it down to 2K and even use some HD Stock footage unless I can find some affordable 2K stock footage.. Peace...


A lot depends upon the graphics cards you have or will acquire. Look on the BMD Support pages for the recommended configurations for Resolve and Resolve Lite. Read and weep! No, seriously, it will give you something to think about and what you need to match what you want to do. If you were doing all your post work in FCPX, you may be fine. If you want to use Resolve, you may need more GPU power. In either situation, you should benefit if you use 16 GB memory or at least 12 GB. Current generation memory is rather inexpensive but the cost goes up for older machines. There will be an update to the Mac Pro " later in 2013" if you want to wait but the current generation iMac likely outperforms your Mac Pro.

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Re: ProRes, 422 4K To Resolve 10

PostFri Apr 12, 2013 1:33 pm

how many stops of dynamic range we get out when in ProRes 422 4k ?

(on the BMCC its 10 stops vs 13 when in RAW mode)

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Re: ProRes, 422 4K To Resolve 10

PostFri Apr 12, 2013 1:46 pm

quick question:
can you upgrade from 9 to 10 ala a"pple NLE" style or are you forced to buy 10 for the full price?
also,
If I don't intend on purchasing the 4k version (have ef BMCC) do I really need 10?


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Re: ProRes, 422 4K To Resolve 10

PostFri Apr 12, 2013 2:36 pm

pixhershko wrote:quick question:
can you upgrade from 9 to 10 ala a"pple NLE" style or are you forced to buy 10 for the full price?
also,
If I don't intend on purchasing the 4k version (have ef BMCC) do I really need 10?


Thanks,

Eli.


If you have a license dongle for Resolve it will enable you to use resolve 8, 9 and 10 when it comes out, unless there is a major change in business model form resolve this will likely be the case for 11, 12, 13 etc.
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Re: ProRes, 422 4K To Resolve 10

PostFri Apr 12, 2013 10:24 pm

cool.
thanks for the info,
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