NAB 2018 -- ProRes RAW for Ursa Mini Cameras?

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NAB 2018 -- ProRes RAW for Ursa Mini Cameras?

PostMon Apr 09, 2018 9:05 pm

Can someone at NAB ask BMD if ProRes RAW will be supported on the Ursa Mini cameras?

I see a couple other threads asking this question but they have all become saturated by discussions about the pros/cons of ProRes RAW. Let's keep this thread on topic please. Will BMD support ProRes RAW on the Ursa Mini cameras? Surely someone ought to be able to find out something today.
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Re: NAB 2018 -- ProRes RAW for Ursa Mini Cameras?

PostMon Apr 09, 2018 11:49 pm

Rumor says Atomos and DJI have an exclusive deal with Apple for ProRes RAW. Can anyone confirm or deny?
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Re: NAB 2018 -- ProRes RAW for Ursa Mini Cameras?

PostTue Apr 10, 2018 12:26 am



Yes they talk about it here.


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Re: NAB 2018 -- ProRes RAW for Ursa Mini Cameras?

PostTue Apr 10, 2018 6:29 am

In a interview with CEO of atomos (see redshark for the interview)
He clearly mentioned that dji and atomos have gained an advantage being Apple partners and have been helping with the Development of prores raw.
So now they have the advantage they already have the products ready to sell. While all other manufacturers now have to see and implement. So don’t count on it for another 6 months... maybe in september at Launch on IBC more manufacturers have prores raw build in. But until Then. Atomos wil sell a lot of monitor recorders.
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Re: NAB 2018 -- ProRes RAW for Ursa Mini Cameras?

PostTue Apr 10, 2018 2:38 pm

James Parker wrote:https://vimeo.com/263818108
Yes they talk about it here.
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This explanation is bit convoluted. Sounds 10x more complicated than it really is :D
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Re: NAB 2018 -- ProRes RAW for Ursa Mini Cameras?

PostTue Apr 10, 2018 5:05 pm

In the Slashcam interview on YouTube of Stuart Ashton (BMD UK) related to the Pocket Cinema Camera 4K, he mentions BMD will be considering the benefits of adding support for ProRes raw. Doesn’t sound like it’s anything that’s going to happen quickly, but I imagine we shall see it in time.



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Re: NAB 2018 -- ProRes RAW for Ursa Mini Cameras?

PostFri Apr 13, 2018 12:52 pm

Grant comments on ProRes Raw here:
(at 6:38).

He's saying it's basically a bayer package with a LUT and that it needs more work. My interpretation of that is it shouldn't be too hard for NLE:s to "support" it for editing only, but grading applications would still need to have the color science for each indiviual camera and a way to match the footage with the correct color science. I guess DaVinci Resolve has a head start in that sense compared to traditional NLE:s.
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Re: NAB 2018 -- ProRes RAW for Ursa Mini Cameras?

PostSat Apr 14, 2018 3:02 am

Here’s Atomos in another interview explaining more details of their implementation from compatible cameras.

https://www.cinema5d.com/prores-raw-exp ... +272961544



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