Bmpcc 4K and Ronin M

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Bmpcc 4K and Ronin M

PostThu Apr 12, 2018 10:18 pm

Hey, I'm really excited about the new pocket camera, but I was thinking this morning, with it being 7" wide, will it not fit on the Ronin M? I've been using my Ronin M for a long time and hoping there might be a work around. The Ronin is only 6.3" from rail to rail. Any thoughts? Thx!
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Re: Bmpcc 4K and Ronin M

PostThu Apr 12, 2018 11:06 pm

Hello Eliakin,
I've done the measurements and you're right, it will not fit IF the camera is positioned right where the two pivots are but when I use my Micro with the Sigma 18-35 it sits well behind the most narrow portion of the gimbal, and into the open area behind the pivots.

I'm not sure yet, but hopefully this will be the same situation with the P4K. I'm assuming so, since it's not as heavy as my caged Micro setup. The P4K is also thinner so it should have plenty of room to clear the back supports.
If I need to, I can always add a small weight to the lens to accommodate the need to have the camera sitting behind the pivot points.

I'll give a yes or no once I get the camera, which may be a while because I'm holding off on Pre-Ordering it.
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Re: Bmpcc 4K and Ronin M

PostThu Apr 12, 2018 11:16 pm

Thank you, that helps! I'm really hoping that I can get it to work. Can't wait to try it!
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Re: Bmpcc 4K and Ronin M

PostFri Apr 13, 2018 11:36 am

Still room to connect hdmi and power to the side?? :roll:
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Re: Bmpcc 4K and Ronin M

PostFri Apr 13, 2018 7:27 pm

In my fantasy dream world..the new BM4K pocket camera will fit on the new Ronin S. Oh how do I dream of that combination!
Who knows a product engineer at DJI we can lobby to look into this? DJI is tweaking the Ronin S design. So now is a good time for them to make this combo work.
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Re: Bmpcc 4K and Ronin M

PostFri Apr 13, 2018 8:22 pm

MikeMeagher wrote:In my fantasy dream world..the new BM4K pocket camera will fit on the new Ronin S.


Assuming it's within the weight requirements of the Ronin S, there's no reason it shouldn't "fit". Unlike the M, there are no obstructions. Hand-held gimbals like the S are frequently used with the camera's articulated screen protruding far beyond the body of the gimbal. It shouldn't matter if the camera body extends beyond the base. And there are many other gimbals in this class to chose from.

The real question is how well it balances, but that varies from camera to camera anyway. You can have more trouble with a small light camera than a bigger and heavier one.
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Re: Bmpcc 4K and Ronin M

PostFri Apr 13, 2018 9:15 pm

I'm interested to see if this thing will run on the Ronin S. I have a Letus Helix Jr, but I'm interested in getting even more flexibility.
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Re: Bmpcc 4K and Ronin M

PostSat Apr 14, 2018 2:59 pm

I just mesured the size and its the exact same size as my MoviM5 cage but it MIGHT need a little bit of forcing in due to the Movi adjustment clamps on each sides. But i have a feeling (just like my 5d3) the body of the camera might be slightly behind the cage (and not in the middle) due to lense weight. So am kind of happy right now
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Re: Bmpcc 4K and Ronin M

PostTue Oct 30, 2018 5:52 pm

I was planning on getting the Ronin M but i'm kinda bummed about this issue. guess ill have to wait till it comes out and people try out different combinations.
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Re: Bmpcc 4K and Ronin M

PostSat Nov 03, 2018 11:41 am

It will work on the Ronin-S with the included extra plate:

type "Blackmagic pocket cinema camera 4k Ronin S balance" in youtube.

Hope this helps.
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Re: Bmpcc 4K and Ronin M

PostTue Nov 13, 2018 5:14 pm

After a lot of trial and error and using pretty much every base plate and rod system I have at my disposal I have managed to balance my pocket 4k on my ronin m using just a small rig base plate.

It’s balanced with a 16mm f2.2 samyang, which is not the heaviest, but it does work with the full range of motion on pan tilt and roll. Which is fortunate because it was the sole reason I got the camera!

Now after 10 days of having the thing I can finally have a play with it!
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Re: Bmpcc 4K and Ronin M

PostWed Nov 21, 2018 4:48 am

Gavin_c_clark wrote:After a lot of trial and error and using pretty much every base plate and rod system I have at my disposal I have managed to balance my pocket 4k on my ronin m using just a small rig base plate.

It’s balanced with a 16mm f2.2 samyang, which is not the heaviest, but it does work with the full range of motion on pan tilt and roll. Which is fortunate because it was the sole reason I got the camera!

Now after 10 days of having the thing I can finally have a play with it!


Hi Gavin, Could you please let me know which SmallRig base plate is that.

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Re: Bmpcc 4K and Ronin M

PostWed Nov 21, 2018 7:33 pm

Good job. Looking forward to your findings after you’ve played with it!


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Re: Bmpcc 4K and Ronin M

PostSat Dec 08, 2018 3:44 pm

Does anyone know what kind of base plate is compatible to balance P4K on Ronin M or if the regular base plate that comes with the Ronin M works with it ?
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Re: Bmpcc 4K and Ronin M

PostFri Dec 21, 2018 1:52 am

I dont normally post because I'm not great at articulating this stuff but no one seems to have a ronin MX anymore. I figured I would post here seeing how the M and MX are so similar.

I got my pocket 4K a couple days ago and decided to try it on my MX. Long story short I was able to balance the pocket 4K with a rokinon 20mm EF Mount (with adaptor) and two tilta necleus m motors. I used the ronin MX tilt arm extenders, a small rig camera baseplate with two 7” rods an additional 15mm rod railblock a 1.5” rod and a lens support. I’m not gonna lie I cursed a few times with this and am thinking of selling the MX cuz sweet Jesus rigging this is a pain. First you have to mount the baseplate backwards and insert the camera from behind (with the cage tilted up). Picture is below. Happy to answer questions.
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