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Pros & Cons of using ' ISCO " type - Anamorphic lenses/ adap

PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 6:25 am
by DorisLondon
Hello all
Please share your opinions/ experiences Pros & Cons of using Anamorphic lens Adaptors such as the ISCO products ( see below for various examples of Anamorphic adapter products ) there's is a single focus version.

I have a BM mini 4.6k PL mount camera. And I'm am considering this cheap Anamorphic lens alternative to the real thing?

Thank you all. D.

E.g.

https://www.anamorphicstore.com/lenses/ ... lens-dslr/ https://www.anamorphicstore.com/lenses/ ... lens-dslr/

E.g

http://anamorphicshop.com/product/fm-lens/

E.g

http://www.transferconvert.co.uk/cinema ... scope.html

Re: Pros & Cons of using ' ISCO

PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 5:47 pm
by Jack Fairley
I've used that 2x adapter on BMPCC with .58x Speedbooster. The anamorphic aspect is as they describe, but it makes switching lenses really annoying, and you'll probably need a 58mm adapter for your filters. You're also limited on what taking lenses you can use, because of the width of the adapter.

Re: Pros & Cons of using ' ISCO " type - Anamorphic lenses/

PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:50 pm
by DorisLondon
Jack Fairley wrote:I've used that 2x adapter on BMPCC with .58x Speedbooster. The anamorphic aspect is as they describe, but it makes switching lenses really annoying, and you'll probably need a 58mm adapter for your filters. You're also limited on what taking lenses you can use, because of the width of the adapter.
Thank you Jack for sharing your experience.

D.

Re: Pros & Cons of using ' ISCO

PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 1:49 pm
by Adam Langdon
i'll FINALLY be getting my "Single-focus Sankor 16 2x Anamorphic Adapter" tomorrow. So hopefully i'll let you know how it goes (using the Ursa Mini Pro).

Re: Pros & Cons of using ' ISCO " type - Anamorphic lenses/

PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:47 pm
by DorisLondon
Adam Langdon wrote:i'll FINALLY be getting my "Single-focus Sankor 16 2x Anamorphic Adapter" tomorrow. So hopefully i'll let you know how it goes (using the Ursa Mini Pro).
Sounds interesting Adam. Yes please update us on your experience of this kit.
Cheers
D.

Re: Pros & Cons of using ' ISCO " type - Anamorphic lenses/

PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 9:03 pm
by rick.lang
Doris, there’s also the option of using the SLR Magic Rangefinder that works with their SKR Magic Anamorphot adapters to provide a single focus solution.


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Re: Pros & Cons of using ' ISCO " type - Anamorphic lenses/

PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 7:19 am
by DorisLondon
rick.lang wrote:Doris, there’s also the option of using the SLR Magic Rangefinder that works with their SKR Magic Anamorphot adapters to provide a single focus solution.


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Hey Rick, yes I've read good reactions for the Range Finder, this review here does some comparisons, maybe of interest to others.

I'm leaning towards a "Anamorphic Store" product, namely a " Schneider single focus kit"

Mark over at Anamorphicstore.com has been excellent in terms of his communication and info on his products.

I contacted" Rectilux " over at "Transferconvert.co.uk"

I emailed them via there sales site 3 days ago. So far no reply? Perhaps just a technical hitch or something similar? I'll see. I heard they have a waiting list for there products which is sometimes a positive sign.

Doris.

Re: Pros & Cons of using ' ISCO

PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 4:10 pm
by Adam Langdon
Here's some results....

This is with a Helios 44-2 58mm @ f2 with a Sankor 16c taking lens, set to INFINITY (without the Single-Focus Adapter):
ImageNoSF by Adam Langdon, on Flickr

Same setup as above but WITH the Single-Focus Adapter:
ImageInfinitySF1 by Adam Langdon, on Flickr

Same setup as above (with the adapter), but this is my attempt at manually focusing to Infinity:
ImageInfinitySF2 by Adam Langdon, on Flickr

And here's the same lens setup focused as close as possible (with the Single-Focus Adapter):
ImageCloseUpSF by Adam Langdon, on Flickr

My conclusion:
Not worth it. If i want to get wide landscapes, i have to pop off the SF Adapter for decent focus, and then if i was to get my subjects closer within 30ft, i'd have to attach the Adapter. Also the entire lens contraption shifts during focus, so no rack focusing.

Here's some more stills with the adapter and people...
Imageoffice1 by Adam Langdon, on Flickr
Imageanamorphic50ft by Adam Langdon, on Flickr
Imageanamorphic1.5ft by Adam Langdon, on Flickr

Re: Pros & Cons of using ' ISCO " type - Anamorphic lenses/

PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 10:37 pm
by DorisLondon
Adam Langdon
"My conclusion:
Not worth it. If i want to get wide landscapes, i have to pop off the SF Adapter for decent focus, and then if i was to get my subjects closer within 30ft, i'd have to attach the Adapter. Also the entire lens contraption shifts during focus, so no rack focusing"

Hello Adam

Thank you for sharing this.

Sorry if I've misunderstood, so your disappointed with the usage / physical setup of the Sankor kit? And or the qaulity of the image results?

D.

Re: Pros & Cons of using ' ISCO

PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 10:39 pm
by Adam Langdon
yes, poor image quality and funky design. I would not really recommend it.

Re: Pros & Cons of using ' ISCO " type - Anamorphic lenses/

PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 10:58 pm
by DorisLondon
Adam Langdon wrote:yes, poor image quality and funky design. I would not really recommend it.
I'm sorry you had a negative experience Adam. It's a cautionary warning when buying and using these alternatives to so the called " real thing" however like most of us here , I certainly can't afford any of the real anamorphic PL lens for my BM Ursa mini, so we are forced to experiment trail and error style to hope to get that particular look we seek in out film work.
I will continue to search for the best possible but cheaper Anamorphic alternatives out there.

I am still keen to hear from anyone who has used any of the

"AnamorphicStore.com" products?
E.g. "Schneider single focus lens kit"

D.