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Prores - Film Vs. Video Setting

PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 1:20 pm
by Stephen Folker
When shooting in prores is there a big advantage to shooting in film mode vs. video? I know with film it's more desaturated for grading in post. Is that the only advantage.

Then with viewing mode, there is same option. So, If I shoot in FILM mode and set view option to VIDEO, is that just so I don't accidently expose scene wrong cause it's so desaturated?

Thanks in advance!

Re: Prores Dynamic Vs. Film

PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 2:02 pm
by adamroberts
In tests I've found that Film mode hold more detail in the highlights.

Shooting the same scene with the same exposure setting in Video and Film mode then applying the Rec.709 LUT in Resolve to the Film mode footage. The final image is very similar but there is more detail and dynamic range in the highlights.

The same has been the case while beta testing the Antler Post's BMCC Video-Rec.709 Plugin for FCPX.
http://www.adamroberts.net/blog/blackma ... tler-post/

Re: Prores - Film Vs. Video Setting

PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 7:01 pm
by Peter J. DeCrescenzo
Stephenfolker wrote:When shooting in prores is there a big advantage to shooting in film mode vs. video? I know with film it's more desaturated for grading in post. Is that the only advantage.

Then with viewing mode, there is same option. So, If I shoot in FILM mode and set view option to VIDEO, is that just so I don't accidently expose scene wrong cause it's so desaturated?

Thanks in advance!


Shoot ProRes/DnxHD in "Video" (Rec. 709) mode perhaps for quick turn-around projects that you don't anticipate benefitting from extensive grading/CC in post.

Shoot ProRes/DnxHD in "Film" (log) mode (like log mode on most popular cinema cameras) for projects that may benefit from a bit more DR at the "expense" of some additional required work in post. BMCC log mode yields about a stop or so better DR than Rec.709. The BMCC's built-in LCD can be set to "Video" mode while recording "Film" mode to make shooting easier.

Shoot BMCC RAW CinemaDNG mode (which is always log) to capture the full DR & color range the camera is capable of recording. RAW is handled differently in post than is ProRes/DNxHD.

On a related note, there's information on how to use BMCC zebras when shooting ProRes in the following thread (read the whole thread):
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=6722


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Re: Prores - Film Vs. Video Setting

PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 1:58 pm
by Stephen Folker
Thanks for clarification. :)

Re: Prores - Film Vs. Video Setting

PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 1:53 am
by John Koop
That was very helpful for me as well.

Question:
You mentioned CinemaDNG recording. I don't see that as an option in my URSA while I updated the newest firmware.
How can I record in CinemaDNG?

Thanks,

John

Re: Prores - Film Vs. Video Setting

PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 2:38 pm
by Ben McAllister
John Koop wrote:That was very helpful for me as well.

Question:
You mentioned CinemaDNG recording. I don't see that as an option in my URSA while I updated the newest firmware.
How can I record in CinemaDNG?

Thanks,

John


Recording RAW will give you CinemaDNG