Anybody hoping for a price drop to 3,000 on the Ursa Mini?

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Anybody hoping for a price drop to 3,000 on the Ursa Mini?

PostMon May 21, 2018 12:20 am

Considering I can get the camera on ebay for about this with accessories, do you guys think a price drop will be happening soon? The BMPCC 4k is proving that it isn't very expensive to have a 4k raw recorder in a camera, and there's no way the sensor in the Ursa mini 4.6k is THAT expensive.

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Re: Anybody hoping for a price drop to 3,000 on the Ursa Min

PostMon May 21, 2018 12:23 am

Well, since second-hand prices are already going that direction, I suppose they'd tend to stop production.
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Re: Anybody hoping for a price drop to 3,000 on the Ursa Min

PostMon May 21, 2018 7:34 am

Two different beast for different shooting.
I think i will buy bmccp4k for its small form factor and all its advantage about gimbal light using and more. I not think (today without see or used bmpcc4k) i can replace all Kind of use of ursa mini pro, lens exchange, nd, etc with pocket4k.
I'm sure that with m4/3 on 4/3 sensor, dual clean ISO. 3 support where record (i hope dual record for backup or higher frame rate), bmd color science, raw and prores will be a big game changer and not only on movie

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Re: Anybody hoping for a price drop to 3,000 on the Ursa Min

PostMon May 21, 2018 6:32 pm

The 4.6k sensor was a completely custom design and is THAT expensive. You try manufacturing a sensor and see how cheap it is. Honestly I'd Argue the ursa mini pro is a much better camera than the price suggests.
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Re: Anybody hoping for a price drop to 3,000 on the Ursa Min

PostMon May 21, 2018 10:14 pm

I’ve always thought the 4.6K sensor cost more than the entire cost of the BMPCC4K camera.


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Re: Anybody hoping for a price drop to 3,000 on the Ursa Min

PostMon May 21, 2018 11:01 pm

The 4.6K IS better than its price suggests. It held up remarkably well in an HBO test that included a Helium, Millenium DXL, Varicam, Alexa (not sure which now), and C700. Probably some others as well (Ikegami?). There wasn't any clear loser as you'd expect for the $5000 4.6K compared with Panavision's 8K flagship.

It wasn't a surprise that it got Netflix approval, which also says a lot.

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Re: Anybody hoping for a price drop to 3,000 on the Ursa Min

PostTue May 22, 2018 8:54 am

Netflix only gives a **** about resolution, didn't they approve the A7SII as well?
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Re: Anybody hoping for a price drop to 3,000 on the Ursa Min

PostThu May 24, 2018 1:33 pm

Sean van Berlo wrote:Netflix only gives a **** about resolution, didn't they approve the A7SII as well?


Netflix did not approve a7SII as it does not shoot 10-bit 4:2:2 minimum. However a lot of unusual cameras such as FS7 and EVA1 are approved, which while very good cameras, are don't record nice RAW or Prores codecs internally. Even the raw output from those cameras is very lackluster.\\

C200 is not approved probably due to lack of Genlock timecode as well as the mysterious codec known as "Canon Raw Lite" not being very clear on it's limitations.

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