WHERE IS BMCC MFT 2.5k ?? is there any hope at site?

I ordered this BMCC MFT camera a month ago, I paid my deposit, but to my greatest Surprise this morning, my supplier called me and told me there is no hope, that i should come and take back my deposit, that he doesn't know when this camera will be coming. Recently, I received BM news letter from GRANT PERRY about new blackmagic 4k cinema camera, while 2.5k is still missing, BMCCamera is it real or just one of those media frenzy of a thing, please can someone answer, if its not, then i can take back my money from the supplier at least it can buy some tins of Milo food drink for my children, Thanks

You could be positive and assume that the delay comes from them changing it to an active MFT .

Thanks bro, I am more than positive, that is why my money is still with my supplier, i told him to keep it, it will come, but let me hear from others, and understand truely what is going on
thanks bro

It has only been two weeks from me, but my money won't be leaving till the day it ships. Who is your vendor and by what means did they determine that there was "no hope"?

I ordered from AVAlive, but they simply have no clue.

It's HIGHLY optimistic to assume they're switching to an active mount, but they should tell us, rather than letting preorders drift away to the EF mount or hell, even, the GH3 (as I've seen a number of people do).

it better to show people the clear picture,

Hahahahahah, oh god, I love that. A month...you kill me, that's good stuff.
Most people on here have been waiting since last september. Just read through the posts and join the pain train. Welcome to the club tony, it's a sad club indeed.

ok lets wait, silent is golden as they said, lets remain silent until blackmagic decide that they can no longer keep u waiting

Hej BM!
time for an update!
by now you must have an idea of when/if the camera will ship or not ship?
It really crap that you don´t have the courteousy to let the many hundreds of potential customers know what is going on. Releasing the other cameras is really no compensation.

any hope at site, any new info?

Given up on waiting for the MFT
opted for an EF and will use adapters and Leica glass.

My guess (which is free, and probably as worthless as any other) is that we're not going to get an update (duh). But the news, whenever it comes, will arrive in the form of a shipping camera.

Yeah, I'm an optimist but my money's on the following:
The 2.5k m43 WILL come and when it does it will be the same active mount as the pocket camera and,
The pocket camera will ship prior to the announced target of July 25th.

Anyone want to launch into another dissertation about the history or why that can't happen, be my guest, I don't have to be right (or wrong), or much longer to wait . . .

Tick tock.

is it true that MFT is about to get going?? hope its true guys

is it true that MFT is about to get going?? hope its true guys

It's true! Here are the posts from the camera's product manager, Kristian Lam:

As for Blackmagic Cinema Camera MFTs, you'll be happy to know that they will ship really soon, possibly as early as next week.

- viewtopic.php?f=2&t=7714&start=320#p55916

Shipments will leave the factory today so I hope customers will start receiving them from the start of next week.

- viewtopic.php?f=2&t=7714&start=330#p55930

I cant wait to see this wow!

is there anyone with MFT now?

is there anyone with MFT now?

Well given the Cameras only left the factory on Thursday that would be impressive turnaround at the Distributors and Retailers to make it to people by Sat.

After getting warnings for asking for my camera
After being called a "hater"
Guess what?.. i called my dealer on friday to ask wich position i had on the MFT list
AND NOW I AM THE NUMBER ONE!!
I was 5 before.. so.. what does it mean??
All the other 4 never cared about coming to this forum.. never complained
they just canceled orders... so it looks like the "hater" was indeed the only one who waited
Now.. cameras are supposed to have left the factory, so i guess i will have mine in ... let´s say... a week??
well i am not so confident after everything all the mess going on about MFT
Please if any of you gets his MFT camera tell us

After getting warnings for asking for my camera
After being called a "hater"
Guess what?.. i called my dealer on friday to ask wich position i had on the MFT list
AND NOW I AM THE NUMBER ONE!!
I was 5 before.. so.. what does it mean??
All the other 4 never cared about coming to this forum.. never complained
they just canceled orders... so it looks like the "hater" was indeed the only one who waited
Now.. cameras are supposed to have left the factory, so i guess i will have mine in ... let´s say... a week??
well i am not so confident after everything all the mess going on about MFT
Please if any of you gets his MFT camera tell us

I was told by the company I ordered from that there was over 50 orders when it was first announce and now there is under 20. I was in the top five when I ordered. He couldn't tell me where I'm at now, but I'm sure I'm a lot closer, maybe 1 or 2.

Well I must have been 1st because they just called me. My is shipping out today. I should get it later this week maybe early next week.

Just got tracking info. I should have it Friday!

Just got tracking info. I should have it Friday!

Awesome! Congrats! Where did you order from, and when did you pre-order the MFT?

Just got tracking info. I should have it Friday!

Awesome! Congrats! Where did you order from, and when did you pre-order the MFT?

I ordered the EF BMCC the day after NAB2012 from Markertek and switched my order to the BMCC MFT the day the MFT was announced. It's been a very long wait.

Just got tracking info. I should have it Friday!

Omygosh, I feel sorry for you. The immense pressure you will be under to shoot some polished video and get it posted here by the weekend! Looking forward to seeing anything (except your cats and dogs)! Great if you can shoot people but we know that might take another week to arrange. Congrats.

Rick Lang
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Just got tracking info. I should have it Friday!

wow Great, Congrats

Please what about those is Southeast Asia, are we going to receive ours too

Just got tracking info. I should have it Friday!

Omygosh, I feel sorry for you. The immense pressure you will be under to shoot some polished video and get it posted here by the weekend! Looking forward to seeing anything (except your cats and dogs)! Great if you can shoot people but we know that might take another week to arrange. Congrats.

Rick Lang
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Unfortunately I won't really be able to do any testing until next week.

Fast delivery wasted on you

Fast delivery wasted on you

I went the free slow route. I will put it thru it's paces next week tho. Not sure when I'll feel comfortable posting anything tho.

Fast delivery wasted on you

I went the free slow route. I will put it thru it's paces next week tho. Not sure when I'll feel comfortable posting anything tho.

Listen, we are going to be so enthralled to finally see footage from a real customer, you will hear great plaudits. Just jump in and feed us footage.

Rick Lang
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[Grant Petty]

Hi,

Sorry about the delay in those but with the limited amount of sensors we have been getting per month we just wanted to burn though the EF model back orders first before it got more balanced with MFT back orders. There was just so many more EF back orders than MFT. But we are making both now and trying to balance the two models with the sensors we are getting. At least the other two cameras look fine on the sensor front but we are still too slow on the sensors for the 2.5k camera. At least we are working through the back orders so thats important.


Regards,

Grant

Thanks for the (welcome) update.
Makes complete sense to me.
Glad that this part of the saga is coming together.
We're pulling for you and, of course, for ourselves (getting cameras).
Keep up the good work!

Hi,

Sorry about the delay in those but with the limited amount of sensors we have been getting per month we just wanted to burn though the EF model back orders first before it got more balanced with MFT back orders. There was just so many more EF back orders than MFT. But we are making both now and trying to balance the two models with the sensors we are getting. At least the other two cameras look fine on the sensor front but we are still too slow on the sensors for the 2.5k camera. At least we are working through the back orders so thats important.


Regards,

Grant

Thankyou Grant for finally updating us of the situation. It doesnt matter that much to me personally now since I've waited a long time so I cancelled.
So the delay now is the 2.5k sensor shortage. Shipment to Europe has stagnated so that might have something to do with it on top of the previous distribution issue.
Just saying, if there is a serious problem of getting hold of 2.5k sensors perhaps it is worth advising customers the option to switch to the 4k cameras should the 4k likely to arrive sooner?

I think a lot of people who preordered the new 4k and pocket cameras want to know, are BMD getting plenty of problem free sensors for these cameras?

So the delay now is the 2.5k sensor shortage. Shipment to Europe has stagnated so that might have something to do with it on top of the previous distribution issue.

The problem has always been 2.5k sensor supply. There is nothing new in Grants statement, just that the old sensor issues are still in part having an impact.

Just saying, if there is a serious problem of getting hold of 2.5k sensors perhaps it is worth advising customers the option to switch to the 4k cameras should the 4k likely to arrive sooner?

They should definitely keep us updated on the supply issue at BMD but advising us to buy based on that? That gives them reasons to manipulate supply.

Hi,

Sorry about the delay in those but with the limited amount of sensors we have been getting per month we just wanted to burn though the EF model back orders first before it got more balanced with MFT back orders. There was just so many more EF back orders than MFT. But we are making both now and trying to balance the two models with the sensors we are getting. At least the other two cameras look fine on the sensor front but we are still too slow on the sensors for the 2.5k camera. At least we are working through the back orders so thats important.


Regards,

Grant

Thank you Sir for the information, More grease to your elbow, I will be waiting for the time until August, Please Sir always remember our own Southeast Asian (Malaysia) portion
Thank you

So the delay now is the 2.5k sensor shortage. Shipment to Europe has stagnated so that might have something to do with it on top of the previous distribution issue.

The problem has always been 2.5k sensor supply. There is nothing new in Grants statement, just that the old sensor issues are still in part having an impact.

While it is true the knock on effect with the initial sensor issue from last year cause delays but supply is still slow even when the faulty sensor issue is no more. Grant now confirms getting 2.5k sensor "still slow", that wasnt the news previously or being mentioned at NAB.

Just saying, if there is a serious problem of getting hold of 2.5k sensors perhaps it is worth advising customers the option to switch to the 4k cameras should the 4k likely to arrive sooner?

They should definitely keep us updated on the supply issue at BMD but advising us to buy based on that? That gives them reasons to manipulate supply.

Yes BMD should definately keep updating us. If you didnt remember I was pretty vocal about getting updates which got Grant Petty to talk about it early this year. All I'm saying is giving customer an option, you don't have to switch if you don't want to.

I hope any of these cameras make it to Spain
4k will be on time?? i highly doubt it since July is only a few days away and we have not seen any footage from it

Fast delivery wasted on you

I went the free slow route. I will put it thru it's paces next week tho. Not sure when I'll feel comfortable posting anything tho.

No pun intended, i'm glad BM is back on route, and i'm happy for you to finally receive your long awaited device!

I hope any of these cameras make it to Spain
4k will be on time?? i highly doubt it since July is only a few days away and we have not seen any footage from it

It is exactly 7 weeks till the last day of July, that's a fair period of time.

I wouldn't be that surprised if they miss it but without knowing the production cycle and the reason for the lack of footage it's impossible to say how long it could be between footage being avaliable and the camera shipping.

If they are just on colour science and firmware reasons for footage not being released they could already have a backlog of cameras waiting to be flashed with up to date firmware.

On the BMCC back around last Autumn they reported having the production line doing as much as it can without them and having stacks of cameras without sensors.

Consider i saw BMCC footage a year ago, and still do not have my camera.. you can have an idea
If there is no footage you can be sure there is a problem.. wow! one more!!
and if there is a problem you can count on BM.. they won´t ever tell you what is really going on

Hi,

Sorry about the delay in those but with the limited amount of sensors we have been getting per month we just wanted to burn though the EF model back orders first before it got more balanced with MFT back orders. There was just so many more EF back orders than MFT. But we are making both now and trying to balance the two models with the sensors we are getting. At least the other two cameras look fine on the sensor front but we are still too slow on the sensors for the 2.5k camera. At least we are working through the back orders so thats important.


Regards,

Grant

So happy that you could loose one minute with us.
It's sad to know that even after 14 months this camera with this sensor has been announced, you still have sensor issues. But it's nice to know the MFT model it's now shipping and that you are trying to do the best you can.
Any hope for a MFT model with active mount?
Thanks.

Consider i saw BMCC footage a year ago, and still do not have my camera.. you can have an idea
If there is no footage you can be sure there is a problem.. wow! one more!!
and if there is a problem you can count on BM.. they won´t ever tell you what is really going on

Explain how a supply issue slowing the shipping of a camera is a useful indicator of the time before launch that a camera needs from when footage is available to when it ships.

The problem with the BMCC shipping has a very detailed explanation of a problem that isn't terribly likely to happen a second time, 2 sensor manufacturers mucking up this badly isn't a huge likelihood.

RED are making Epic Dragons, they are known to be doing this they've even shown themselves making a reasonable number of them. There is also no footage available for it as the firmware and colour science isn't ready.

This means that a manufacturer whether RED or BMD could actually Start shipping cameras in numbers the next day from when firmware is at a state they might want to show pictures from it.

While no footage at this isn't a good sign they will make shipping targets, it is far from proof they will miss it. Hell given the BMPCC is using a similar sensor to the BMCC I'd not be suprised if despite having footage from it it was beaten to market by the BMPC that doesn't, whether eithers actual shipping date is in July or not.

Once again I'm not saying that they will make the July shipping window, just that the footage situation is mostly irrelevant at this stage to whether they will make it or not. Hell there are companies out there (Apple for one) that have only announced products on the day they ship.

... At least the other two cameras look fine on the sensor front ...

Thanks for the update, Grant!

I'm very much looking forward to receiving my BMPC-4K as soon as possible.

Cheers.

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I receive a message from my supplier this morning that by next week my BMCC MFT Version will be with me,
I'm so excited Thanks BM

Has anyone received a shipping notice from B&H, and if so, when did you place the order?

Thanks!

Getting my MFT on 20th of Jun Thursday wow,

I have no interest in the MFT ATM, But I'm in awe that GRANT updated us on the progress,
Many thanks Grant, It was sheer pleasure having you update us about the MFT,
I can only hope we don't scare you away from future updates Grant,
As you must know your updates are godlike,
even if your not 100% on time , Just sayin thank you Grant!

Getting my MFT on 20th of Jun Thursday wow,

Hold on... you ordered at the end of March 2013 and you're receiving it on the 20th June 2013. Good for you and enjoy the camera, but in terms of distribution that is absolutely outrageous. I have an order from the 9th September 2012 and there is not a word. Blackmagic have a serious issue with the fairness of their distribution of cameras. Europe is being completely ignored again

Hold on... you ordered at the end of March 2013 and you're receiving it on the 20th June 2013. Good for you and enjoy the camera, but in terms of distribution that is absolutely outrageous. I have an order from the 9th September 2012 and there is not a word. Blackmagic have a serious issue with the fairness of their distribution of cameras. Europe is being completely ignored again

The camera JUST started actually shipping, joyous occasion! You found a reason to complain. Congrats.

I suggest you google "how does retail supply chain work" and calm down. You're camera is coming.

Getting my MFT on 20th of Jun Thursday wow,

Hold on... you ordered at the end of March 2013 and you're receiving it on the 20th June 2013. Good for you and enjoy the camera, but in terms of distribution that is absolutely outrageous. I have an order from the 9th September 2012 and there is not a word. Blackmagic have a serious issue with the fairness of their distribution of cameras. Europe is being completely ignored again

looks like it.. i am now number one in the list because all the others canceled.. but still no news
guess i´ll get a lumix GH6 before bmcc

Isn't it nice, how in europe we all can be number one on some retailers order list? Feels so good! Only problem is: which number is your retailer on that one european distributors list? Diversity has its price...