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3rd party LP-E6 Batteries in Pocket 4K

PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 12:43 pm
by carlomacchiavello
Uli Plank wrote:My bad experience was with a Patona yellow, the green ones might be worth a try.


I had both yellow and green. Green offer longer shooting, I usually use yellow with video assist (1h of work).
I had since 25-33 minutes with yellow and 45 with green. But depend of lenses and how to use them.
If you had adapter metabone like me and use often the stabilization of lenses the battery work for less time.
I use internal battery only if I need to shoot on gimbal, other time I had GMount and Sony nfp adapter to use a real battery to work.
Pocket4k is excellent camera, but is a cinema camera, very hungry of power :-)


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Re: 3rd party LP-E6 Batteries in Pocket 4K

PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 12:56 pm
by d_j_1983
I'm so tempted to just buy a whole lot of canon batteries to keep the rig small and nimble. I've added a cage and V-lock and gonna add a monitor etc and it's just turning into this large thing.

Re: 3rd party LP-E6 Batteries in Pocket 4K

PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 4:28 pm
by focuspulling
d_j_1983 wrote:I'm so tempted to just buy a whole lot of canon batteries to keep the rig small and nimble. I've added a cage and V-lock and gonna add a monitor etc and it's just turning into this large thing.

Meantime I'm worried that even the gigantic/bulky battery grip/sled, when it finally delivers, still won't meaningfully add to the running time. NP-F550 is a miniature battery size compared to the 750s and 950s.

Re: 3rd party LP-E6 Batteries in Pocket 4K

PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 5:13 pm
by Dmitry Shijan
2600-3000mAh is average capacity of larger Sony NP-F type battery so this capacity is total fake for LP-E6. 1800-1900mAh is real life limit for LP-E6 type battery size.

Try Batmax brand. They are low cost and use original Sanyo cells. I use them about few months with BMMCC and monitor and must seems they holds well.

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Re: 3rd party LP-E6 Batteries in Pocket 4K

PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 9:39 pm
by d_j_1983
Dmitry Shijan wrote:2600-3000mAh is average capacity of larger Sony NP-F type battery so this capacity is total fake for LP-E6. 1800-1900mAh is real life limit for LP-E6 type battery size.

Try Batmax brand. They are low cost and use original Sanyo cells. I use them about few months with BMMCC and monitor and must seems they holds well.

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Ohh that’s great to hear! Does it show the percentage show on the camera?

Re: 3rd party LP-E6 Batteries in Pocket 4K

PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 10:25 pm
by Dmitry Shijan
d_j_1983 wrote:Ohh that’s great to hear! Does it show the percentage show on the camera?

Yes, it battery shows battery percentage on BMMCC and on SmallHD monitor as well.

Re: 3rd party LP-E6 Batteries in Pocket 4K

PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 12:12 am
by d_j_1983
Dmitry Shijan wrote:
d_j_1983 wrote:Ohh that’s great to hear! Does it show the percentage show on the camera?

Yes, it battery shows battery percentage on BMMCC and on SmallHD monitor as well.


Oh damn I can’t seem to find it somewhere that ships to Australia :(

Re: 3rd party LP-E6 Batteries in Pocket 4K

PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 1:33 am
by d_j_1983
Dmitry Shijan wrote:
d_j_1983 wrote:Ohh that’s great to hear! Does it show the percentage show on the camera?

Yes, it battery shows battery percentage on BMMCC and on SmallHD monitor as well.


Silly question : the canon OEM batteries say 7.4V and these say 7.2V. Does that difference matter?

Just saw them on the Aloexpress shopping app!

Re: 3rd party LP-E6 Batteries in Pocket 4K

PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 1:35 am
by Dmitry Shijan

Re: 3rd party LP-E6 Batteries in Pocket 4K

PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 1:40 am
by d_j_1983
Dmitry Shijan wrote:https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32836831874.html
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32836923146.html


Aw thank you mate! Just saw them too on the AliExpress app!

Just wondering if that difference in voltage 7.2V vs 7.4V is anything to be concerned about?

Re: 3rd party LP-E6 Batteries in Pocket 4K

PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 2:18 am
by d_j_1983
Oh my mistake I had a look again and it seems like the OEM LP-E6N is 7.2V :)

Re: 3rd party LP-E6 Batteries in Pocket 4K

PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 12:36 pm
by rick.lang
Can’t be true, sorry.


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Re: 3rd party LP-E6 Batteries in Pocket 4K

PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 5:36 pm
by Dmitry Shijan
d_j_1983 wrote:Just wondering if that difference in voltage 7.2V vs 7.4V is anything to be concerned about?


No difference. It is just a average voltage label mark.
Real life batteries output voltage range varies: 5V min. (fully discharged), 7.4V normal, 8.4V max. (fully charged).

Re: 3rd party LP-E6 Batteries in Pocket 4K

PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 8:03 pm
by d_j_1983
Dmitry Shijan wrote:
d_j_1983 wrote:Just wondering if that difference in voltage 7.2V vs 7.4V is anything to be concerned about?


No difference. It is just a average voltage label mark.
Real life batteries output voltage range varies: 5V min. (fully discharged), 7.4V normal, 8.4V max. (fully charged).


Thanks so much mate!

Re: 3rd party LP-E6 Batteries in Pocket 4K

PostPosted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 11:15 pm
by dondidnod
Australian Image wrote:Or you could buy a new, genuine, Canon LP-E6 for only AU$25: https://tinyurl.com/y4dozow6. It comes with a money back guarantee!

It sounds too good to be true. :D

I took a chance and ordered one. It came today and just like my genuine Canon battery, it shows 22% left in my BMPCC 4K.

If it's fake, they went to a lot of trouble to make it look real. It's a high precision casting, unlike other fakes. Here it is on the left, next to a genuine one on the right.

Re: 3rd party LP-E6 Batteries in Pocket 4K

PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2019 2:52 am
by dondidnod
I got the new Canon LP-E6 battery from bestdigitalusa (funny, I don't remember Hong Kong as being a part of the USA). It was shipped from Guangdong, China however at $21 USD delivered. I charged it to 87% in camera and then was able to record for 41 min. before it shut off. I recorded to a G-Drive Mobile SSD with a manual focus lens, no IS.

At 30 min. in it registered at 73% capacity. When I turned it on after it had shut off, it registered at 65% capacity and shut down again after recording for 5 sec. It then registered at 1% capacity. Fortunately, it popped out easily.

I was hoping to get more out of a battery with a 2019 02 manufacture date. I guess I got my $21 out of it though.

My other Canon LP-E6 battery was one I bought used from B&H for $30 USD with a 9 rating. The date on it is 2018 04. It charges in camera to 99% and has 36% left at 41 minutes. It displays it's reserve accurately and can record for 1 hour.

Re: 3rd party LP-E6 Batteries in Pocket 4K

PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2019 1:54 pm
by Kris Mil
I have found the Ravpower to work in the same way as the original Blackmagic camera.
https://www.amazon.com.au/gp/product/B0 ... UTF8&psc=1