What about a micro thin?

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Wayne Steven

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What about a micro thin?

PostSun Dec 02, 2018 10:00 am

What about doing a thin micro with mobile parts 4kp60 12 bit black magic raw and ProRes using an updated sensor, starvis maybe with quad Bayer hdr 1 inch. Sort of as thin as the original pocket or thinner, also like a less wide version of the original pocket. Some super short lens set with liquid lens technology. A 4 lens 3D lens, for computational photography. Maybe an 8k quad Bayer sensor to do 4k Bayer or enhanced downdampled 4k.

Maybe the Black Magic professional action camera using the half inch Sony 8k mobile sensor and a speed booster.
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Re: What about a micro thin?

PostSun Dec 02, 2018 7:01 pm

Small cameras are too much of a speciality market, not a higher demand, especially when the price is Nikon tried this with its N1 series cameras using a CX lens, in 1-inch sensors. It ended up being discontinued, due to lack of sales. The BM Micro cameras did OK, but nothing spectacular, again a small nice market.

Fast forward, BM’s current “Pocket 4K” is very successful, with sales exceeding expectations, also Nikon launched a new mirrorless full frame camera with a form factor twice that of the N1 series, and it is off to a flying start also, with good sales. So bigger is better for dedicated cameras. Thinner is your cell phone camera, which will be hard to compete with in the consumer market.

I think a camera closer to the EVA1 in size, like a smaller Ursa Mini, with the new Pocket MFT sensor or a newer design along those lines and size, would sell better. :roll:
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Re: What about a micro thin?

PostMon Dec 03, 2018 9:42 am

But the micro (if they had display) is for happy snappers like me, or as a crash/tight space/overhead/b/crane mounted cam, or on a drone. Wouldn't a thinner version better suite those purposes?
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Re: What about a micro thin?

PostMon Dec 03, 2018 9:46 am

Frankly, I wish they would do a yi 4k+ sized thin camera but full faced screen, using the highest end ambarella chips (4kp50/60/8k over 200mb/s 10 bit), then you could really shove that thing in those places and have a nice action cam. Even if you used computational photography to derive a refocusable 3D mapped image.
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Re: What about a micro thin?

PostMon Dec 03, 2018 4:30 pm

Then get a Yi action cam and stop complaining.
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Re: What about a micro thin?

PostTue Dec 04, 2018 4:51 am

You are the one complaining Rakesh. I am the only one not complaining here. Be positive. You don't have to contribute negativity.
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Re: What about a micro thin?

PostTue Dec 04, 2018 5:09 am

Anyway, incase anybody is viewing who is not familiar with the little 4k+ action camera. It has been driven over 200mb/s h264 4kp60, but is entirely inadequate for any filming. So, people modify the item more with custom case and lens mount, but your control is still limited, to manual lens control and the in camera electronic auto controls (I don't know if it has readily live filming accessible settable gain, shutter and colour control) sort of half way there but ussuable thing. Maybe there is some way to set those things through the screen if people have it further. No w, it is laughable to think BM couldn't do a lot better, more professional, job then thus, and at half the thickness. As it is, it is too thick to be most ussuable. With newer circuits you could thin it further, and have the battery and screen stackable. So then you in stack and mount on a drone, or as a remote head. Mind you such a screen battery makes as a nice component of a head mounted viewer with a head mounted with optical adaptor, as well as remotely view and or control the camera part. Sounds like a parts eco system. Anybody with talent can see these things, and measure up usefulness.
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Re: What about a micro thin?

PostWed Dec 05, 2018 2:04 pm

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Re: What about a micro thin?

PostSun Dec 09, 2018 4:29 am

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Re: What about a micro thin?

PostSun Dec 09, 2018 4:38 am

This company is setting up a dedicated camera division, so maybe a good company to partner with, to do a BM badged camera phone, like other companies do deals with lens companies on their phones.

Think, a $400AU with 2k bm raw mode, and action camera (they are are the parent company to yi, who did the leading 4k+ camera, and were trying to buy gopro who might hold the cineform technology patents and application specific custom integrated circuit technology). All of which are desirable.
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