UMP G2 Shipping ?

Hey,
Has anyone got any word on likely shipping month for the G2? I’m hoping we haven't gone back to the dark ages of BM release times.

They are shipping! I just got word from my guy if I am still interested in one. Because they are shipping!

Supposedly shipping since 6th April....its' almost 20th April and I've not heard from anyone receiving their camera yet. Are they being shipped individually via rubber dinghys?

lol I heard they were shipping too and then hear they were still being manufactured, all inside of a few days haha. I'm just eager to get my hands on one.

I phoned the UK distributor and they had no idea when they were coming ... but none yet!

I don't get why there are only 3 videos on YouTube featuring footage from the G2.

That 300fps should be shown off. Not just a couple of shots of waves.

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Shipping means at least the first batch has left the factory. Whether that means one palette has left or one shipping container has left isn’t shared by BMD. They should have reached at least one regional centre and then begins the regional distribution and finally your dealer will receive all or part of their order. The first few to shooters selected by BMD just to get video samples on the internet from people who didn’t even order the camera. There’s a chance by month end the first cameras will appear. In May they’ll be several.


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Footage is limited by the shooters who have the camera. When looking at the comments and people asking them to speak about their experience they all seem very hush hush saying a review will come soon. Looking at previous years of beta shooters it was almost like a race to see who could get a review out first, but now its as if there's some secret that can't be revealed just yet

They are shipping! I just got word from my guy if I am still interested in one. Because they are shipping!

What, great news.

Preordered a month ago in Europe, no info from the vendor.

Footage is limited by the shooters who have the camera. When looking at the comments and people asking them to speak about their experience they all seem very hush hush saying a review will come soon. Looking at previous years of beta shooters it was almost like a race to see who could get a review out first, but now its as if there's some secret that can't be revealed just yet

I feel like your right. It's making me nervous as I've ordered and already paid for the camera. But I'm sure it will be good but how long.

Grant Petty I'm the launch video said they would be shipping the following week and that was a while ago.

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Im sure its for good reason and im guessing the betas found a few issues as i guess thats why the cameras are sent out in the first place to select few testers. So ultimately probably a good thing but I wish there was just more clarity from BM about accurate shipping times. Delays dont seem so bad when we’re made aware I just hope this means the first batch of cams will be problem free as i dread the whole return process.

I wish they could just make them reliable, and water proof, and I mean proper water proofing. That is a next frontier. I think the pro g2 is too much, but reliability like an Alexa, and water proofing, might not cost that much, but saves everybody heaps of money. With Arri planning a new sensor, it's time to up the ante (I wonder if Arri will get wise, and do 20 stops with better low light?).

I wish they could just make them reliable, and water proof, and I mean proper water proofing. That is a next frontier. I think the pro g2 is too much, but reliability like an Alexa, and water proofing, might not cost that much, but saves everybody heaps of money. With Arri planning a new sensor, it's time to up the ante (I wonder if Arri will get wise, and do 20 stops with better low light?).

Are Ursa Mini Pros unreliable?

I don't get why there are only 3 videos on YouTube featuring footage from the G2.

That 300fps should be shown off. Not just a couple of shots of waves.

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About 40% of this episode is G2.

https://7plus.com.au/the-resident?episode-id=RESI02-020

JB

I wish they could just make them reliable, and water proof, and I mean proper water proofing. That is a next frontier. I think the pro g2 is too much, but reliability like an Alexa, and water proofing, might not cost that much, but saves everybody heaps of money. With Arri planning a new sensor, it's time to up the ante (I wonder if Arri will get wise, and do 20 stops with better low light?).

Are Ursa Mini Pros unreliable?

There is reliable, and there is reliable when the metal literally hits the road or something. Ask Alexa owners. If the camera never breaks down, and virtually doesn't need servicing, even if nocked, you have a reliable camera. For solo field work the more the better.

For more advanced water proofing you want more a pocket 4k all in one unit. Mini all in one maybe.

imma order one a couple months from now, sometime in the fall. Hopefully it's all what it cracked up to be!

Are Ursa Mini Pros unreliable?

I just wrapped a 10 month shoot with five UMP bodies (and 2 x G2 bodies)

In 10 months of daily constant use I've had a couple of menu knobs fall off and needed to tighten the screws in one of the LCD monitors. On the second to last day I think one of the SDI connectors might have failed. I say might, because it started working again after not working for a couple of scenes. (we constantly switch video transmitters in and out so I'm not surprised)

188 shooting days. 1058 seperate scenes. By the way I dind't start the show with them being new. They were "used". Those five bodies had also previously done the first season of the same show...14 episodes / 6 month shoot and a pilot in Chicago....

In just this season I've had to replace and Alexa Mini (was turning off randomly) and separately lost a clip from an Alexa mini which we replaced as a precaution.

JB

That’s damn reliable if you ask me.

I don't get why there are only 3 videos on YouTube featuring footage from the G2.

That 300fps should be shown off. Not just a couple of shots of waves.

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About 40% of this episode is G2.

https://7plus.com.au/the-resident?episode-id=RESI02-020

JB

Awesome thank you.

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That’s damn reliable if you ask me.

The Alexa? This is the thing, they have a great reputation, and for reliability you don't want any down time. In field you and the elements in the jungle, what are you going do? Or on set when you can't afford the downtime, or a million a day, you want something close to the most reliable quality camera. If you want your cameras to be taken seriously by the big guys, you have to make it close to the reliability of the most reliable popular quality camera. There use to be a saying nobody ever got died buying Sony. I wonder what they say about Arri.

OK, so you are talking about matching a 10x the price camera for service, what do you do? Verified ultra low defect cameras, and premium service patches. You verify and substitute and verify parts, for every thing to substitute into a careful standard run, you test for the best quality within target in that run, the rest in the run go to the B quality of the quality run, the rest of the cameras are normal cameras from the normal run. The A grade cameras would be $10k or so, the B's half way between the A's and normal cameras. With a premium service pack, hopefully it can be half the price of an Alexa. But you have to change the design of knobs so they don't drop off. Just by spending a few hundred on improving the design of everything, even the normal cameras are going be a lot closer to 100% reliable over the life of the camera. Say you had a score of 10 defects average per camera over 5 years, it may go down to 5 or 2. The A grade might be 1 or much less. If you can get it to 0.1 camera and can knock it around, you have a very reliable camera, a tank.

Now, you can undercut Alexa and make it the go to studio B cam, and lower A cam. But if you can get past the 16 stop barrier and match Alexa throughout the dynamic range with good low light performance, it can become a go to A cam for big productions, but you need to look at 6k-10k to handle the aliasing to give an edge. The pocket then goes 4.6k+. 20 stops plus gives a more mailable image.

Grant says he doesn't do things based on what others do in that interview, but it is about doing the good core/essential things they are doing in competition. You can't just react to competition, but you can outdo them in a good way customers will buy.

Are Ursa Mini Pros unreliable?

I just wrapped a 10 month shoot with five UMP bodies (and 2 x G2 bodies)

In 10 months of daily constant use I've had a couple of menu knobs fall off and needed to tighten the screws in one of the LCD monitors. On the second to last day I think one of the SDI connectors might have failed. I say might, because it started working again after not working for a couple of scenes. (we constantly switch video transmitters in and out so I'm not surprised)

188 shooting days. 1058 seperate scenes. By the way I dind't start the show with them being new. They were "used". Those five bodies had also previously done the first season of the same show...14 episodes / 6 month shoot and a pilot in Chicago....

In just this season I've had to replace and Alexa Mini (was turning off randomly) and separately lost a clip from an Alexa mini which we replaced as a precaution.

JB

Thanks John for writing that. Thats very reliable.

I personally am not a fan of the Alexa's image finding it a bit muddy but I've never used one. When Alexa came out Sony had F65 but about the same time DP's were having to switch to digital, so of course they turned to the brand they trusted being Arri.

Wayne the reason I asked if Ursa Mini Pros were unreliable was because I hadn't really read anything anywhere to give me that impression. I still hear about Reds not starting but most cameras are pretty reliable.

Wayne the reason I asked if Ursa Mini Pros were unreliable was because I hadn't really read anything anywhere to give me that impression.

So you're new here?

Reliable depends on the circumstances. With different circumstances there are different expectations to carry you through. What I've heard here doesn't make me think of particular reliability. Knobs falling off even consumer equipment, tends to produce one reaction. At that this price you should need to hack them off, or dismantled them, but I digress, it's about being up and producing quality work as much as possible with least hassles etc. You might not say its an unreliable camera but there are different grades of high reliability.

Wayne the reason I asked if Ursa Mini Pros were unreliable was because I hadn't really read anything anywhere to give me that impression.

So you're new here?

Reliable depends on the circumstances. With different circumstances there are different expectations to carry you through. What I've heard here doesn't make me think of particular reliability. Knobs falling off even consumer equipment, tends to produce one reaction. At that this price you should need to hack them off, or dismantled them, but I digress, it's about being up and producing quality work as much as possible with least hassles etc. You might not say its an unreliable camera but there are different grades of high reliability.

I've been reading this forum for a year now and I havent seen any alarming issues with the Ursa line.

A knob falling off after that much hard use is nothing, if anything its a testament that they can be worked that long and hard that the knob wore out.

I'd say we are both equally uninformed as to the true reliability of either camera.

I just wish the UMP came in grey like the Alexa because Black cameras get so hot in the sun in places like Australia.

Well white?

I'd say, I've read enough of people's encounters so far that it isn't threatening Alexa in the place which will cement its reputation.

White would be too flashy. How about Tiffany's blue like their boxes

.. Or Mauve Pink.



Look at the shoes.

I don't get why there are only 3 videos on YouTube featuring footage from the G2.

That 300fps should be shown off. Not just a couple of shots of waves.

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About 40% of this episode is G2.

https://7plus.com.au/the-resident?episode-id=RESI02-020

JB

Thanks JB,
Did you take advantage of the recording straight to hard drive with the G2?

On that note I think alexa were right to choose grey.

And since seeing that pic black is looking much better now.

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OK, so no colour change camera jokes.

Can we please get back on topic???

SHIPPING


I think the UMP has been proven again and again to be a very reliable camera.

Can we please get back on topic???

SHIPPING


I think the UMP has been proven again and again to be a very reliable camera.

+1

It is really too soon, since the announcement of shipping has started, to make any real comments on this camera’s shippjng status. It takes about 30-days for a new camera to get into the distribution chain, once shipping out from the factory. It took the Ursa Broadcast about 60-90 days to make it to the dealers when it was first shipped. I would expect the same time frame for the Ursa Mini Pro 2.
Cheers

Waiting.

Not sure if it's legit but I saw someone on ebay selling 3 units.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Blackmagic-Des ... SwZcZcmlLA

If it is, it might be a good sign.

Not sure if it's legit but I saw someone on ebay selling 3 units.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Blackmagic-Des ... SwZcZcmlLA

If it is, it might be a good sign.

$2.5K over retail price for a 2 year old camera thats had a spec bump...

I'm looking forward to it but I cant see them selling those at that price.

No ofcourse, they are just trying to sell it with a great margin because they are ''first''. But If they really got 3 units it might mean the G2's are starting to appear in a distrubution chain.

Can we please get back on topic???

SHIPPING


I think the UMP has been proven again and again to be a very reliable camera.

Talks about staying on topic next sentence is off topic lol

Just saw a post we’re a recent UM Pro2 purchase has arrived at the dealer and is ready to ship to him.
So, yes, they are starting to arrive at the dealers.
Cheers

Can we please get back on topic???

SHIPPING


I think the UMP has been proven again and again to be a very reliable camera.

Talks about staying on topic next sentence is off topic lol

Whatever

Just saw a post we’re a recent UM Pro2 purchase has arrived at the dealer and is ready to ship to him.
So, yes, they are starting to arrive at the dealers.
Cheers

Where did you see this, Denny?

edit : just seen this on bmcuser

That was the place
Cheers

Do you have a link to the original post?

Do you have a link to the original post?

http://www.bmcuser.com/showthread.php?2 ... post262659

Thank you

Can we please get back on topic???

SHIPPING


I think the UMP has been proven again and again to be a very reliable camera.

Talks about staying on topic next sentence is off topic lol

Whatever

it was a joke lmao

Yep. They are shipping. I just received mine today. The camera no longer comes with a side handle. The LCD is better quality, better color and contrast than G1. The XLR connecters are Neutrik now and not Amphenol as before. The camera feels a little heavier too.

Yep. They are shipping. I just received mine today. The camera no longer comes with a side handle. The LCD is better quality, better color and contrast than G1. The XLR connecters are Neutrik now and not Amphenol as before. The camera feels a little heavier too.

Fantastic. Where are you based Will?

edit : jus seen your post on bmcuser. I really should check that site first each time

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Sorry, I get defensive when I'm on the Internet

Yep. They are shipping. I just received mine today. The camera no longer comes with a side handle. The LCD is better quality, better color and contrast than G1. The XLR connecters are Neutrik now and not Amphenol as before. The camera feels a little heavier too.

Really no side handle?

I got my shipping notice from reseller yesterday and should have G2 in hand soon : )
They'll have one or two more coming soon and told me that no one else is in line for them yet. If anyone wants their contact info, send me a direct message.