Kensington trackball to control color wheels?

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Kensington trackball to control color wheels?

PostWed Jan 16, 2019 2:41 pm

Is it possible to use a Kensington trackball (or similar), to control the color wheels in Resolve's color page?

Not as a mouse replacement, but specifically as a simple 2D control of the hue values.
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Re: Kensington trackball to control color wheels?

PostWed Jan 16, 2019 3:43 pm

Interesting question!

The answer is yes, either holding down the key you use for a click or program another key as a "drag" and then you can use the trackball for hue in the color wheels.
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Re: Kensington trackball to control color wheels?

PostWed Jan 16, 2019 4:19 pm

KatCaverly wrote:Interesting question!

The answer is yes, either holding down the key you use for a click or program another key as a "drag" and then you can use the trackball for hue in the color wheels.



Thank you for your answer!. I'm glad to hear that. And do you know if the scrollwheel on the perimeter of the trackball can be used to adjust exposure?
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Re: Kensington trackball to control color wheels?

PostWed Jan 16, 2019 5:00 pm

yes it does, if you hover over the exposure wheel and then scroll. But remember to move the cursor off or there are unintended changes!
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Re: Kensington trackball to control color wheels?

PostWed Jan 16, 2019 5:51 pm

Basically, I think the best way to look at it is that the Kensington trackball is an old-fashioned (non-optical) mouse on its back and behaves the same way.
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Re: Kensington trackball to control color wheels?

PostWed Jan 16, 2019 6:58 pm

Brad Hurley wrote:Basically, I think the best way to look at it is that the Kensington trackball is an old-fashioned (non-optical) mouse on its back and behaves the same way.


exactly, PLUS the fact the Kensington Expert Mouse is programable!
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Re: Kensington trackball to control color wheels?

PostWed Jan 16, 2019 10:41 pm

I just want to point out: even a very inexpensive color panel like the Tangent Ripple is much better than trying to color correct with a mouse. Especially in Resolve. (Though there are some major colorists using Lustre with just a keyboard and mouse).

My advice: save your money and pick up a used control surface cheap on eBay or one of the user groups on the web.
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Re: Kensington trackball to control color wheels?

PostThu Jan 17, 2019 8:25 am

Thank you for the replies. So do you think the kensington offers any substantial advantage over using a standard mouse?

I realize it wont replace a dedicated control surface, but I am attracted by the much smaller footprint, since my desk is already pretty crowded.
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Re: Kensington trackball to control color wheels?

PostThu Jan 17, 2019 9:59 am

Singularity wrote:Thank you for the replies. So do you think the kensington offers any substantial advantage over using a standard mouse?

I was never happy with trying to draw a complex power window with a trackball or trackpad, so I rejected that in favor of a very simple 3-button wired mouse. I used a Kensington Turbomouse for decades (I think they came out in the late 1980s), but gave it up specifically because of the power window problem in Resolve.
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Re: Kensington trackball to control color wheels?

PostThu Jan 17, 2019 12:55 pm

Singularity wrote: So do you think the kensington offers any substantial advantage over using a standard mouse?


I have been using a Kensington Expert Mouse for animation since 2001, but for Resolve I bought MIDIGrade which uses the DJ Tech Tools MIdi Fighter Twistor, then added the Tangent Ripple. I guess to each their own, and use whatever, whichever works best for your creativity.

So for me a mouse was never accurate or useful. I didn't like a 3 button mouse either. I programed the Expert Mouse for the middle click. I also added an Apple Magic Trackpad recently because sometimes that works best!
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Re: Kensington trackball to control color wheels?

PostThu Jan 17, 2019 1:28 pm

I would also check out the budget controllers from Glenn Venghaus, if you use a Mac. See https://posttools.tachyon-consulting.com/davinci-resolve-controllers/apc40-mk2-resolve-edition/?v=3e8d115eb4b3 for example, which would literally feel like "mixing light," given the mixer-style faders.

I have his Arturia Beatstep controller, which works, but I think the one I linked to above is a likely to be more usable solution due to the lighted labeled buttons. A bit involved to set up, but you get a lot of functionality for a reasonable price.

One of the key advantages to dedicated controllers is that you can adjust lift and gain simultaneously (or lift and gamma, gamma and gain, etc) or fine-tune the pivot point while adjusting contrast...it's the ability to control two things simultaneously that creates a big advantage over a mouse or trackball. It's not just the better/more intuitive ergonomics.
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Re: Kensington trackball to control color wheels?

PostThu Jan 17, 2019 1:38 pm

Thanks. I would have liked to use the midi controller option since I already have a couple of midi controllers. But unfortunately, the software seems to be mac only :(
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Re: Kensington trackball to control color wheels?

PostThu Jan 17, 2019 2:55 pm

And MIDIGrade is only available for macOS too. https://sellfy.com/p/ggBh/
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