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Resolve 10 + MBP Retina 15" 2013 Haswell

PostPosted: Sat Nov 23, 2013 1:29 am
by Paul Beauchamp
So far, not so good...

Anyone else having issues? My entire macbook seems to suffer from 'lock ups' and it only happens when I'm either running Resolve 10 or quitting Resolve 10!

Twice today I went to quit resolve (I had a project open with around 150 Cinema DNG clips on a FW HDD) and my entire system locked up (screen froze, no mouse input, no keyboard input) for around 10 minutes.

I've had similar freezes when exporting clips as ProRes, also when doing some general colour correction..

Re: Resolve 10 + MBP Retina 15" 2013 Haswell

PostPosted: Sat Nov 23, 2013 8:58 am
by Peter Chamberlain
Hi, are you on Mavericks, and have App Nap on?
Peter

Re: Resolve 10 + MBP Retina 15" 2013 Haswell

PostPosted: Sat Nov 23, 2013 10:50 am
by Paul Beauchamp
Indeed I was. I have just turned off app nap for resolve, will report back if the problem pursues. Is this a known issue?

Re: Resolve 10 + MBP Retina 15" 2013 Haswell

PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 2:30 am
by swordinhand
Having similar issues with a maxed out Crystalwell MBP. Tried turning off App Nap, problem still persists. Any other ideas?

Re: Resolve 10 + MBP Retina 15" 2013 Haswell

PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 9:27 pm
by Paul Beauchamp
swordinhand wrote:Having similar issues with a maxed out Crystalwell MBP. Tried turning off App Nap, problem still persists. Any other ideas?


swordinhand - what kind of storage are you using? usb/thunderbolt/fw?

I'm running a pro res proxy convert right now with resolve.. My machine is terribly sluggish even though 80% of my CPU is idle. I also still have 4gb ram free..

Re: Resolve 10 + MBP Retina 15" 2013 Haswell

PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 9:37 pm
by Paul Beauchamp
My machine progressively got more sluggish until one of the dreaded lock ups occurred again. Lasted for about 4 minutes. Right before then I actually shut down a few other apps I had open so I had 6gb RAM free at the time. Cpu was still 80% idle.

Just replaced my 2011 MBP after the GPU fried. Went for the best spec MBP I could buy and it's been so disappointing.. Hopefully this is just software problem and an easy fix for BM. Anything I can do to help, please let me know.

Re: Resolve 10 + MBP Retina 15" 2013 Haswell

PostPosted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 6:30 am
by swordinhand
beauchampy,

I was reading off of a G-Raid 4tb, through eSATA to USB 3, averages around 175MB / sec and it was writing to my internal SSD, which averages around 1GB / sec. Don't think that the HDDs are the problem. I also, tried different combinations of drives, same gradual slow down after about 20-30 minutes.

But, I downloaded Resolve 9.1.6 and that fixed the problem. Now, it renders just under realtime (22.5fps), constantly. I rendered a 6+ hour render and it never slowed down. Screen saver was turned on and display sleep too. I also, was simultaneously surfing the net and watching some of the proxies as they finished. No slow down in render speed. I'm starting to think it must be a bug in Resolve 10 and / or something in Mavericks. I always forget that bleeding edge software is usually buggy.

Took me a while to find this, but here's a link to download Davinci 9.1.6 -- http://www.blackmagicdesign.com/support ... rue&os=mac

Hope that helps you, until we get some sort of bug fix.

Re: Resolve 10 + MBP Retina 15" 2013 Haswell

PostPosted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 8:39 am
by Paul Beauchamp
Yes my performance issues are gone with resolve 9 too.. I shoot raw with a 5D II and R9 seems to produce some really nasty purple colour fringing. I don't have this issue with R10... Fingers crossed for an R10 fix soon..

Re: Resolve 10 + MBP Retina 15" 2013 Haswell

PostPosted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 12:16 pm
by Rohit Gupta
Can you try adding this string to your Preferences/Advanced, and restart Resolve V10:

Local.GPU.Mode = CUDA

V9 used to use CUDA on the retina Macbook Pro, but V10 uses OpenCL by default. Make sure you have the updated to the latest version of CUDA available in the System Preferences CUDA control panel.

Re: Resolve 10 + MBP Retina 15" 2013 Haswell

PostPosted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 3:28 pm
by Paul Beauchamp
Ok now I'm in love with BMD. Not only am I using a FREE product which gives amazing cinematic results, their support is amazing. I'm now running a proxy pass on some raw footage with an LUT applied, FPS has gone from what was 2-3fps to around 17fps. I had my suspicions this GPU wasn't being utilised properly, seems you were right!

Albeit I'm only 5 mins in, I can tell the performance is much much better. I am running from my internal SSD to internal SSD (can't quite crack out the 3.5" HDD in starbucks lol), but I was sure that wasn't the bottleneck anyway.

I've drunk a lot of coffee. Rohit, I owe you a beer!

Re: Resolve 10 + MBP Retina 15" 2013 Haswell

PostPosted: Sat Dec 14, 2013 4:12 pm
by swordinhand
Thanks a million Rohit! That did the trick. Somewhat unrelated, but XML import and export to and from Premiere Pro CC gives me a "Timecode extents don't match error". Any fix for that one? Thanks so much!

Re: Resolve 10 + MBP Retina 15" 2013 Haswell

PostPosted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 3:19 am
by peroguita
I have the same issues with DaVinci Resolve 10. I have a MacBook Pro Retina 15, with Mavericks, Processor 2.7 GHz Intel Core, Memory 16 GB 1600 MHz DDR3, Graphics NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M 1024 MB, and a SSD 2.5" Samsung 500gb conected to a dock Voyager vía usb 3.0. When I try to import XML front a proxy sequence the software always collapse. I dont know why, but this is a huge bug. It's just a proxy from Final Cut Pro X from DNG 2.5k footage...
I going to install 9 versión to see if it works...

Re: Resolve 10 + MBP Retina 15" 2013 Haswell

PostPosted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 1:20 am
by Matt Choules
Rohit Gupta wrote:Can you try adding this string to your Preferences/Advanced, and restart Resolve V10:

Local.GPU.Mode = CUDA

V9 used to use CUDA on the retina Macbook Pro, but V10 uses OpenCL by default. Make sure you have the updated to the latest version of CUDA available in the System Preferences CUDA control panel.


Sorry to sound ignorant, but isn't there a setting to specify this in Preferences > Video I/O and GPU > GPU Processing Mode > CUDA

?

Re: Resolve 10 + MBP Retina 15" 2013 Haswell

PostPosted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 1:29 am
by Peter Chamberlain
Correct, we added that use setting after Rohits recommendation to the other user. You dont need the Preferences/Advanced setting now.. .in fact you should only use the checkbox.
Peter

Re: Resolve 10 + MBP Retina 15" 2013 Haswell

PostPosted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 1:31 am
by Matt Choules
Lovely. Loving your work guys!

Re: Resolve 10 + MBP Retina 15" 2013 Haswell

PostPosted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 5:45 pm
by Rando Bach
Matt Choules wrote:
Rohit Gupta wrote:Can you try adding this string to your Preferences/Advanced, and restart Resolve V10:

Local.GPU.Mode = CUDA

V9 used to use CUDA on the retina Macbook Pro, but V10 uses OpenCL by default. Make sure you have the updated to the latest version of CUDA available in the System Preferences CUDA control panel.


Sorry to sound ignorant, but isn't there a setting to specify this in Preferences > Video I/O and GPU > GPU Processing Mode > CUDA

?



I have installed 10.1 how does it come that I can not see a Cuda option in Video I/O and GPU ?

Re: Resolve 10 + MBP Retina 15" 2013 Haswell

PostPosted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 7:49 pm
by adamroberts
rabal wrote:I have installed 10.1 how does it come that I can not see a Cuda option in Video I/O and GPU ?


You probably don't have a GPU that supports CUDA. You must have and ATI card.

Re: Resolve 10 + MBP Retina 15" 2013 Haswell

PostPosted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 8:38 pm
by Rando Bach
adamroberts wrote:
rabal wrote:I have installed 10.1 how does it come that I can not see a Cuda option in Video I/O and GPU ?


You probably don't have a GPU that supports CUDA. You must have and ATI card.


Sorry, I forgot to tell, this is on at the newest rMBP 15 with 16 GB, 1 TB SSD. So Cuda is supported...

Re: Resolve 10 + MBP Retina 15" 2013 Haswell

PostPosted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 2:42 am
by Chris Chiasson
Anyone know how well the latest Mac Book Pro (2.6GHz Quad-core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost up to 3.8GHz) runs Resolve? I keeps hearing "it runs good... ish" and if you're going to run Resolve, that's the one to get. There's no videos online showing how well or unwell it runs it. I'll be using it to grade pocket camera Raw footage, and maybe 2.5k footage if it can handle it. Will it run the footage like stop motion animation? Or will I get a smooth picture during playback?

Re: Resolve 10 + MBP Retina 15" 2013 Haswell

PostPosted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 11:02 am
by Matt Choules
I bought the latest MBP 15" Retina, 2.6GHz i7 Haswell, 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD, Intel NVidia GeForce GT 750M 2GB.
It plays back RAW footage from the BMPCC at 22fps, once graded it runs around 21fps with the scopes up. When it exports I get a solid speed of between 20.5-21fps.

This is all when running footage from the internal SSD. I have not yet tried a TB HDD.

After playing back a while the fans kick in and it sounds a bit like it's going to take off, but generally I'm happy with the performance.

Re: Resolve 10 + MBP Retina 15" 2013 Haswell

PostPosted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 4:14 pm
by rick.lang
Chris, in another forum someone posted these BMD Speed Test results for a maxed out MacBook Pro Retina (late 2013):

Write 956.9 MB/s and
Read 876.0 MB/s

It's fine for HD video! I have an unopened one here (it's a gift) but I can't verify this now unfortunately.

Rick Lang
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Re: Resolve 10 + MBP Retina 15" 2013 Haswell

PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 6:06 am
by Dwaine Maggart
rabal, if you are using Resolve Lite from the Apple App Store, it will not have CUDA support.

Re: Resolve 10 + MBP Retina 15" 2013 Haswell

PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 3:32 pm
by Matt Choules
Do you mean that Resolve Lite does not support CUDA? Or do you mean that if you download it from the Apple Store it will not have CUDA support?

Re: Resolve 10 + MBP Retina 15" 2013 Haswell

PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 6:03 pm
by Dwaine Maggart
It means that Apple App Store version of Resolve Lite does not support CUDA.

Re: Resolve 10 + MBP Retina 15" 2013 Haswell

PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 10:57 pm
by Matt Choules
Why on earth would this be?

Re: Resolve 10 + MBP Retina 15" 2013 Haswell

PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 4:00 am
by rick.lang
Dwaine Maggart wrote:It means that Apple App Store version of Resolve Lite does not support CUDA.


Then we need to download from BMD's Support pages if we are using Lite on the MBPr.

Rick Lang
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Re: Resolve 10 + MBP Retina 15" 2013 Haswell

PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 5:44 am
by Chris Kenny
Matt Choules wrote:Why on earth would this be?


Apple 'sandboxes' App Store apps to some extent. They're not nearly as restrictive as they are with iOS, but I don't think there's a way for an App Store app to install system-level components like CUDA drivers, the way the Resolve installer you download from Blackmagic's web site does. Still though, you'd think it would be possible for it to use them if the user installed them separately. Might be a bit of a support hassle for Blackmagic, though.

The whole thing isn't an issue with OpenCL, of course, because OpenCL libraries are just bundled with the OS.

Re: Resolve 10 + MBP Retina 15" 2013 Haswell

PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:05 am
by Rohit Gupta
Chris Kenny wrote:
Matt Choules wrote:Why on earth would this be?


Apple 'sandboxes' App Store apps to some extent. They're not nearly as restrictive as they are with iOS, but I don't think there's a way for an App Store app to install system-level components like CUDA drivers, the way the Resolve installer you download from Blackmagic's web site does. Still though, you'd think it would be possible for it to use them if the user installed them separately. Might be a bit of a support hassle for Blackmagic, though.

The whole thing isn't an issue with OpenCL, of course, because OpenCL libraries are just bundled with the OS.


It's a "sandboxing" limitation - there are no CUDA enabled apps on the Mac App Store AFAIK.

Re: Resolve 10 + MBP Retina 15" 2013 Haswell

PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2014 5:38 pm
by Archbishopjosh
Not sure if anyone else is still having issues, but I have been lately and just figured out a decent enough workflow. For the record I'm transcoding h264 footage from a 5DmkIII to DNxHD 36 QuickTime movies. And I need to maintain Timecode and (of course) Gamma levels. I tried about 5 different compression programs and Davinci Resolve Lite seems to be the best answer as far as quality and integrity. Unfortunately, on my rMBP (CUDA enabled, latest driver and resolve updates) I was getting about 20-25 fps rendering, which is perfectly fine, but then it would slowly but surely plummet to about 2-3 fps as the transcode chugs along. I'm a DIT doing this work on set, so 2 hours to transcode 20 minutes if footage is simply unacceptable. I dug through forum after forum with no luck, as most posts regarding this matter are outdated.

So what made a big difference for me, is setting it to output to a separate harddrive (I've got 2 LaCie Rugged 1TB USB 3 drives plugged into my powered 7 port Anker USB 3 Hub). Now I can consistently get 15-28 fps rendering out of Resolve Lite. No plummeting frame rate! That being said I'm also not running any other apps in the background, I disabled App Nap for Resolve, and I rebooted and wiped my PRAM before starting. Hope this helps!