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Resolve Superscale vs Topaz Video Enhance AI

PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2022 6:55 am
by Frank Glencairn
Today I did some 4K up scaling tests.

The Material I used was an old Trailer (MP4 720p) from the film “In Memoriam” that I shot 15 years ago on a Sony FS100.

I up scaled the material to 4K – first in Topaz Video Enhance AI, and than in Resolve with Superscale and an additional node for a bit of sharpening.

I was pretty much surprised, that at the end, the visual difference is nothing to write home about, but the render times are way different – like in more than 800% different.

In a nut shell: IMHO – doing it in Topaz is not really worth the wait – your mileage may vary though, depending on your material and expectations.

To be honest, even the difference between Superscale and the normal (Lanczos) scaling in Resolve is way less than I expected. If you really have a need for speed, Lanczos is probably doing the trick in most cases.

I was a bit disappointed though, cause I really wanted the Topaz result somehow reflecting the sooomuchloooooonger render times, but actually it barely does.

There are some fringe cases – like trees and foliage for example – where it does a bit of a better job than Superscale, but than – with more tweaking in Resolve, I probably could come dammed close. Topaz does definitely a better job in de-banding/de-posterizing compression artefacts though.

And yeah, if you zoom in 800% on a still frame, you can probably find some more, but that’s not the point of up-scaling.


Re: Resolve Superscale vs Topaz Video Enhance AI

PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2022 7:17 am
by Uli Plank
That pretty much reflects my experiences and I did quite a bit of tuning. Well, depending on hardware, speed of VEAI has improved quite a bit.
From my tests, I’d say it does visibly better with natural textures, but sometimes it looks downright ugly with faces.
It does better with de-interlacing, even with DR switched to the neural version.

In general, I’d always check first if either method with its rendering times is justified. Good UHD TVs do a pretty good job upscaling these days, some even claim to use AI.
De-interlacing, not so much.

Re: Resolve Superscale vs Topaz Video Enhance AI

PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:56 pm
by ZRGARDNE
I used Topaz for stills and could see it as better than just upscale in LR. Not used it on video

I use the Davinchi Superscale on my gopro footage, it only does 2.7k. It still looks like crappy gopro footage after :lol:

Re: Resolve Superscale vs Topaz Video Enhance AI

PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2022 3:58 pm
by Jim Simon
There is a slight advantage with Topaz in the results, but for me...not enough to justify the cost in both dollars and time.

Re: Resolve Superscale vs Topaz Video Enhance AI

PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2022 9:03 am
by AnthonyReno
Thanks for posting about this. I was seriously considering picking this up. After seeing the differences...honestly, I think DR does a better job. I spotted some weird artifacts from the Topaz render that the DR superscale rendered nicely. Maybe the DR superscale wasn't as sharp, but it looked less noisy to me overall.

Re: Resolve Superscale vs Topaz Video Enhance AI

PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2022 9:05 am
by Marc Wielage
If you add a tiny (very small) amount of OFX Sharpen Edges, it also can help in some situations.

Re: Resolve Superscale vs Topaz Video Enhance AI

PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2022 9:30 am
by Uli Plank
The only function I found substantially better is de-interlacing. And it's fast (compared to the rest).