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Re: Intel Arc A770 Support

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Re: Intel Arc A770 Support

PostFri Jan 20, 2023 1:32 pm

Glad you got it to work :-)
Maybe the Intel driver installer borked something with the OpenCl library which the NVIDIA installer did fix.

What's interesting with your PugetBench results:

Overall Score: 1117 vs Puget's test: 1507
GPU Effects Score: 77 vs Puget's test: 64
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Re: Intel Arc A770 Support

PostFri Jan 20, 2023 3:05 pm

Robert Niessner wrote:Glad you got it to work :-)
Maybe the Intel driver installer borked something with the OpenCl library which the NVIDIA installer did fix.

What's interesting with your PugetBench results:

Overall Score: 1117 vs Puget's test: 1507
GPU Effects Score: 77 vs Puget's test: 64


Intel has been optimizing the drivers. Puget likely used older drivers.
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Re: Intel Arc A770 Support

PostTue Mar 12, 2024 7:05 pm

Sorry to necropost but I'm trying to get Resolve to work with an A770 on Linux. I can get into Resolve and it shows the GPU but it detects it as integrated graphics, doesn't show anything about Neural Engine Optimizations, doesn't show that I can encode/decode h.264/h.265, and I can't preview anything on the timeline.

Any ideas?
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Re: Intel Arc A770 Support

PostTue Mar 12, 2024 8:29 pm

Intel GPUs are not supported by Resolve in Linux.
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Re: Intel Arc A770 Support

PostTue Mar 12, 2024 9:00 pm

Dwaine Maggart wrote:Intel GPUs are not supported by Resolve in Linux.


Damn. I'm guessing there's no plans to support them either? The reason I just bought this Intel GPU is because off all the long-standing issues with Nvidia drivers on Linux.
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Re: Intel Arc A770 Support

PostTue Mar 12, 2024 11:41 pm

I think it would be safe to say there are no near term plans to support Intel GPU's on Linux.

I can't comment on long term plans.
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Re: Intel Arc A770 Support

PostThu Mar 14, 2024 6:21 am

Dwaine, being that the A770 is supported by Resolve, what kind of configuration would BMD recommend for a max 6K indie feature film (90 mins avg) workload? Is more than 1 A770 gpu supported in studio version?
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Re: Intel Arc A770 Support

PostThu Mar 14, 2024 6:37 am

I'd recommend a GPU with 24 GB or more VRAM. Assuming your timeline res is going to be UHD or higher.

If you wanted to use an Intel ARC card, your PC needs to support ReBAR for best performance. At least, that's what the Intel driver installer will tell you if you don't have that.

I have no way to test multiple A770 cards in a system. But I would expect the Studio version to support at least 4 GPUs of any variety, as long as they are all the same.
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Re: Intel Arc A770 Support

PostThu Mar 14, 2024 4:52 pm

I’m planning on upgrading my system and, within a reasonable but low budget, I was thinking of either putting 1 AMD 7900XT 24gb or lately with 2 A770 16Gb each. My cpu is intel 12 gen with rebar so it should support it. Thinking price vs performance value, I wonder which would be a better choice.
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Re: Intel Arc A770 Support

PostSun Mar 24, 2024 12:38 am

Has anyone used Resolve 18 that supports the Arc A770 just with the Intel i7 or i9 12th gen or newer with the integrated A770? Any experiences with that over the discrete A770?
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Re: Intel Arc A770 Support

PostSun Mar 24, 2024 1:20 am

Ellory Yu wrote:I’m planning on upgrading my system and, within a reasonable but low budget, I was thinking of either putting 1 AMD 7900XT 24gb or lately with 2 A770 16Gb each. My cpu is intel 12 gen with rebar so it should support it. Thinking price vs performance value, I wonder which would be a better choice.

Ellory Yu wrote:Has anyone used Resolve 18 that supports the Arc A770 just with the Intel i7 or i9 12th gen or newer with the integrated A770? Any experiences with that over the discrete A770?

As you can see from number of posts in this forum AMD and ARC seem to bring nothing but headaches so why not consider combination of Intel iGPU with Nvidia 40 series card that is known to work well? Or Mac with M* silicone?
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Re: Intel Arc A770 Support

PostSun Mar 24, 2024 1:24 am

Perhaps I'm misunderstanding but I would be very surprised if there's a CPU that has a full size A770 integrated into it. Maybe you mean the A770M which is the mobile version of the GPU? It's also separate but I guess you can say it's integrated into a laptop.

There's also the Intel UHD 770 that is integrated in some of the CPUs, but that is something entirely different and not something you want to run Resolve on unless you pair it with a good GPU.
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Re: Intel Arc A770 Support

PostSun Mar 24, 2024 1:42 am

roger.magnusson wrote:Perhaps I'm misunderstanding but I would be very surprised if there's a CPU that has a full size A770 integrated into it. ... There's also the Intel UHD 770 that is integrated in some of the CPUs, but that is something entirely different ...

Correct, there isn't, I interpreted his statement as he meant UHD 770.

roger.magnusson wrote:... and not something you want to run Resolve on unless you pair it with a good GPU.

... hence my recommendation for iGPU + Nvidia combo.
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Re: Intel Arc A770 Support

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4EvrYng wrote:As you can see from number of posts in this forum AMD and ARC seem to bring nothing but headaches so why not consider combination of Intel iGPU with Nvidia …

I don’t know much about the ARC graphics processor that’s why I’m asking. But that’s okay, I am not considering that option now. As for AMD, yes I saw post about griefs with AMD drivers but those are very old post and AMD drivers are very stable now. I personally have not encountered any problems with my old AMD GPUs which I have been using since Resolve 11 and did some heavy work on them. I like NVidia but for what I am considering and within my 1K upgrade budget, the 4090 is out of reach or I would do that. The 4080 series are trash, and the 4070ti super is the only other contender to consider. With the new prices coming out and much lower that the 4070 cards, and with more vram, the XTX7900 is probably worth going for. Of course, everyone has their own opinion on this and I always like to hear a good point and deal that educates me. I’m not a hardware engineer so I reach from Puget, forums, and reviews to get some groundings then make my decision. Thanks.
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Re: Intel Arc A770 Support

PostTue Mar 26, 2024 6:34 pm

Ellory Yu wrote:
4EvrYng wrote:As you can see from number of posts in this forum AMD and ARC seem to bring nothing but headaches so why not consider combination of Intel iGPU with Nvidia …

As for AMD, yes I saw post about griefs with AMD drivers but those are very old post and AMD drivers are very stable now.
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The 4080 series are trash, and the 4070ti super is the only other contender to consider.

We will have to agree to disagree. My impression of quality of AMD drivers is completely opposite from yours plus I don't find anything about 4080 Super trash nor would I consider 4070ti over it unless I am on extremely tight budget, just the 4GB more of NVRAM in 4080 is worth $200 price difference to me, and even then I would continue saving pennies until I had for 4080 because I'm sure down the road NVRAM requirements will only go up, they never go down, and I would regret excessively pinching them.
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Re: Intel Arc A770 Support

PostTue Mar 26, 2024 7:07 pm

I suppose it's with AMD drivers like with Nvidia drivers, bugs can affect a newer generation of cards and not affect the older generations. Some years ago when there were some disastrous 10-series Nvidia drivers my 9-series GPUs were totally fine with the same driver package.
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PostTue Mar 26, 2024 7:30 pm

roger.magnusson wrote:I suppose it's with AMD drivers like with Nvidia drivers, bugs can affect a newer generation of cards and not affect the older generations. Some years ago when there were some disastrous 10-series Nvidia drivers my 9-series GPUs were totally fine with the same driver package.

Correct. Different generation has different driver which is different codebase. Some parts of it might be common, some parts are not (not to forget it's not just driver that plays the role, there is also a BIOS inside the card itself). That is why Nvidia driver download asks you which generation of card you have and that you DDU old one before installing different one.
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Re: Intel Arc A770 Support

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4EvrYng wrote:
Ellory Yu wrote:As for AMD, yes I saw post about griefs with AMD drivers but those are very old post and AMD drivers are very stable now.
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The 4080 series are trash, and the 4070ti super is the only other contender to consider.

We will have to agree to disagree. My impression of quality of AMD drivers is completely opposite from yours plus I don't find anything about 4080 Super trash nor would I consider 4070ti over it unless I am on extremely tight budget, just the 4GB more of NVRAM in 4080 is worth $200 price difference to me, and even then I would continue saving pennies until I had for 4080 because I'm sure down the road NVRAM requirements will only go up, they never go down, and I would regret excessively pinching them.

So my source about the 4080 was from talking with a reputable system builder of Resolve workstations and who also suggested the 4070ti super over the 4080 super or the 7900 xtx over the 4090 if on a budget which I am on a $1k budget. He pointed out to me on articles and benchmarks they did for Resolve 18.6.4 which is rather recent and the 7900 xtx had the best overall scores on relevant test. However, this also meant that the inclusion by them of the AMD 7900xtx has it that AMD drivers were no longer much of an issue as it used to be, or maybe with only certain GPUs. As I said before I’m not a hardware engineer and am making decisions based on numbers and facts from sources like Puget. Of course gaming reports are better for nvidia I think, also I am only interested in a gpu for Resolve. You might disagree with this numbers but I didn’t made them up, just sharing them. It maybe time for a second look at AMD for content creation cards. Hopefully the numbers here warrant our constructive disagreement and discussion.
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PostWed Mar 27, 2024 8:14 pm

Ellory Yu wrote:So my source about the 4080 was from talking with a reputable system builder of Resolve workstations and who also suggested the 4070ti super over the 4080 super or the 7900 xtx over the 4090 if on a budget which I am on a $1k budget. He pointed out to me on articles and benchmarks they did for Resolve 18.6.4 which is rather recent and the 7900 xtx had the best overall scores on relevant test. However, this also meant that the inclusion by them of the AMD 7900xtx has it that AMD drivers were no longer much of an issue as it used to be, or maybe with only certain GPUs. As I said before I’m not a hardware engineer and am making decisions based on numbers and facts from sources like Puget. Of course gaming reports are better for nvidia I think, also I am only interested in a gpu for Resolve. You might disagree with this numbers but I didn’t made them up, just sharing them. It maybe time for a second look at AMD for content creation cards. Hopefully the numbers here warrant our constructive disagreement and discussion.


You're beating a dead horse around here with some people. These benchmarks will never be accepted no matter how many media outlets say the drivers are a non issue the past few years.

It used to be that Puget was an accepted benchmark until some AMD cards came on top. Then it was real life experience that mattered and any other random metric they can come up with, moving the goalpost every time.

And you'll end up with recommendations for 3060 12GB over 7900XTXs because "CUDA" or some other random thing. No matter if you use RED/BRAW 95% of the time for example.

So its best to ignore, check the numbers, check the forum. Ask people who actually used the cards,
check the professionals, ignore the trolls.

If you're dead set on a 7900XTX then I can only share my experience. I use RED RAW, BRAW, CinemaDNG from Ursas, ArriRAW and it works very well with these formats. Resolve 18.6.1 and Adrenalin 23.9.1.

I only had a crash in Resolve that was related with one of the weird Sony XAVC flavors. Not sure if it was fixed or not in the new drivers but since it was like 30mins of footage I just converted it with ffmpeg.
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Re: Intel Arc A770 Support

PostWed Mar 27, 2024 9:29 pm

VMFXBV wrote:If you're dead set on a 7900XTX then I can only share my experience. I use RED RAW, BRAW, CinemaDNG from Ursas, ArriRAW and it works very well with these formats. Resolve 18.6.1 and Adrenalin 23.9.1.

I only had a crash in Resolve that was related with one of the weird Sony XAVC flavors. Not sure if it was fixed or not in the new drivers but since it was like 30mins of footage I just converted it with ffmpeg.

Not necessarily dead set but considering it. Thanks for sharing your experience. I’m mostly using the same formats that you mentioned and ProRes as well. Rarely that I use a very compressed codec from consumer cameras so if that happens, I’m already doing what you do - convert them first.
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PostWed Mar 27, 2024 9:39 pm

Transcoding amateur codecs is just what Marc also recommends all the time.
Now that the cat #19 is out of the bag, test it as much as you can and use the subforum.

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PostThu Mar 28, 2024 2:02 am

Uli, what do you consider amateur codec? Are you considering codecs like Sony XAVC as such?

I usually transcode XAVC to ProRes before ingesting them since my very old gpu would struggle even in edit. Once transcoded, it’s pretty smooth in playback and grading. It’s just one extra step to do but I just convert them all in a swift using Shutter Encoder and let it do its job while I make some coffee. :)
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PostThu Mar 28, 2024 2:56 am

For me, an amateur codec is any GOP codec without proper timecode, or in wrappers like MP4 and MKV.
We can dispute if H.264 and H.265 are in general, because they can be so demanding on the hardware.
Now that the cat #19 is out of the bag, test it as much as you can and use the subforum.

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Uli Plank wrote:For me, an amateur codec is any GOP codec without proper timecode, or in wrappers like MP4 and MKV.
We can dispute if H.264 and H.265 are in general, because they can be so demanding on the hardware.

Ah, got it. Yeah, I do transcode H.26x to ProRes now for the same reasons but when I upgrade my MB and CPU to the Intel 12 or higher generation, then I could probably just bring them in without transcoding.
I recently brought in IPhone 12 and 13 footage from the BM Camera app which was in H.26x without transcoding first and it playback just fine at 24fps.
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I bring in any footage in H.264/5 with TC just fine, it plays even at 50 fps in UHD.
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Re: Intel Arc A770 Support

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Oh man.

https://old.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/1 ... r_various/

Please read!

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Re: Intel Arc A770 Support

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VMFXBV wrote:Oh man.

https://old.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/1 ... r_various/

Please read!

You might have just been scammed.

OMG! Thanks bro! I immediately cancelled my order and called my bank. Since this was through Amazon, I'm hopeful it will be resolved. It's just a hassle and my money get tied up until the investigation and dispute settles. :(
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