Which GPU: 3060/4060/4070 ?

Dear Blackmagic Forum community,

I am a new Davinci Resolve Studio user.
Seems great, but using FXs' Davinci shows me that my GTX 970 is far too weak.
Help me, please, make a decision: which of these 3 I should choose:
RTX 3060 12 GB, RTX 4060 8GB, or RTX 4070 12 GB?

Is RTX 4070 worth paying twice the price of RTX 3060?
My PC: CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X, RAM: 64GB, SSD: 2x 1 TB.

RTX 4060 I take into consideration because of its low power consumption.

Thank you in advance for any suggestions.

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Hi.

Or buy the coming RTX 4060 NOT with 8 GB VRam, but with 16 GB VRam.
I will arrive at the end of the month. Price will be 499 USD.

Regards Carsten.

Thank you for your answers.
I have already checked PugetBench, but there is no RTX 4060 or RTX 4070 in the comparison chart.

I didn't know about RTX 4060 12 GB version planned.
Maybe this could be the solution.

That one should be quite interesting. Basically, GPU model is for speed, VRAM for stability.

Thank you for your suggestion.
I think you mean RTX 4060 TI 16 GB.
You are right, seems it can be a "dark horse" in my situation.

RTX 4060 with 16 GB VRam. Price will be 499 USD.

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Hi.

RTX 4060 Ti 16GB will launch on July 18, 2023.

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidi ... e-revealed

Regards Carsten.

I built my PC a year ago, wanting to get a 3060 Ti but waited for 4060 Ti as it should be better. As you know, the 4060 Ti is neither here nor there (GB, bus width etc). I later decided to get a 4070. The table helps me in making up my mind. The tensor and Cuda in 4070 are new gen and better than in 3060Ti.

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For about $100 more than 4060 Ti 16 GB, I decided and got the 4070 Gigabyte Eagle. Happy with it. Did a simple rendering test. With 4070, it is 4 times faster in rendering a 4 mins video ( vs 730 GPU, my 1050 GPU decided to RIP about a year ago). Also tried upscaling a 6 mins 1080p file to 4k, which took only 6 mins.

There is a youtube video comparing 4070 with 3060Ti, 3070, and 3080 on DR. He highly recommends 4070, in some cases better than 3080. Because of the price and much higher power for 3080 (my PSU is only 600W), glad that now I have a 3080 power GPU in my PC now. The icing on the cake, lower wattage, and over the years, that will be some $$$ saving.

On Gigabyte GPU PCB cracking, it is not just Gigabyte but other brands too, especially the big heavier GPUs. On installing the 4070, it is pretty firm but I installed a GPU support (DIY using wood and screw).

Now spending more time on DR and Python programming!

Enjoy your new GPU!

Thanks for all your input.
It seems that I have to wait for official tests of 4060 Ti 16GB and compare it to 4070.
No one is suggesting AMD solutions instead of NVIDIA. I think I am not surprised.
Greetings!

You may well wish to look at this for hardware decode and encode support. https://developer.nvidia.com/video-enco ... matrix-new Of particular interest is the 4070Ti has two encoders but the 4070 only one. If encoder is important to you this set of information may be important. With the latest driver I even noticed a difference in my old 1080Ti ( which also has two enco ders )

Thanks for all your input.
It seems that I have to wait for official tests of 4060 Ti 16GB and compare it to 4070.
No one is suggesting AMD solutions instead of NVIDIA. I think I am not surprised.
Greetings!

I was going to wait for 4060 Ti 16 GB review before getting the 4070. But when I looked at the table I posted earlier, the extra $100 is well worth it for the added benefits and longer use before it becomes performance speed limiting on DR.

I was going to switch to AMD with Nvidia monopolising with their higher prices and not-there specs to push customers to get the next higher model (yes, I am guilty of that, got 4070 over 4060 Ti).

Went back to Nvidia due to Cuda and Tensor for Python AI programming. AMD is not there yet on this front.

You may well wish to look at this for hardware decode and encode support. https://developer.nvidia.com/video-enco ... matrix-new Of particular interest is the 4070Ti has two encoders but the 4070 only one. If encoder is important to you this set of information may be important. With the latest driver I even noticed a difference in my old 1080Ti ( which also has two enco ders )

4070 Ti is indeed more powerful than 4070. But the extra $200 is too much for me.

On Gigabyte GPU PCB cracking, it is not just Gigabyte but other brands too, especially the big heavier GPUs. On installing the 4070, it is pretty firm but I installed a GPU support (DIY using wood and screw).

I thought the conclusion on cracking boards was poor packing in shipping. Actually Hardcore Overclocking did a video on this. I'd trust his guesses more than the average Youtuber.

I'm coming from a 3060 12GB, hopefully someone will benchmark the 4060 Ti 16Gb against it because i'd like to see if it would be a decent upgrade from my 3060 for DaVinci Resolve

I just wanted to ask if you guys got more infos.
I am thinking about getting the 4060 16 GB or 4070 TI 12 GB.

I'm coming from a 3060 12GB, hopefully someone will benchmark the 4060 Ti 16Gb against it because i'd like to see if it would be a decent upgrade from my 3060 for DaVinci Resolve

The 40 series is heavily gimped - especially the lower end tiers - although, I would consider a 4060 Ti or the 4070 Ti Super - if one has the $$ - or if I did....

I think it's best to have at least 16gb - but, 12gb is okay in a pinch, I guess - or if you know your work doesn't need more than 12gb - but, always better to get 'extra' vram - you never know if you might need it later on.

Because of the gimped 40 series cards - I've been looking at getting a used 3090. I am also considering a used 7900 XT - because I would like to use Linux (sometimes) and compare DR in both OSs - although, I know it will be way easier and simpler to do it in Windows.

But, I'd make sure the specs/tech. of the 40 series card you're looking at is sufficient - you get full warranty with a new gpu - but, if you compare specs - there is some noticeable 'crippling' or gimping of the card. Nvidia will explain it as 'technological advancements' allowing lowering specs in certain areas. There's also a power efficiency improvement and I think that is the highlight of the 40 series. The 3080 and above - have a much higher power envelope requiring a higher wattage psu - also, it requires a higher quality psu - to deal with the inevitable power spikes those gpus and above will/can have.

However, you don't have to worry about that with the **60 and **70 series. I'd just get the newest gpu I can for the $$ -but, I'd pass on 8gb/10gb cards.

When the 4070 super comes out in January the 4070 is expected to be discounted, the problem is the 12GB Vram which most of the time probably won't cause you a problem, but I'd feel annoyed buying a new GPU and getting a low VRAM error, so I'd get the 4070 Ti super with 16GB in January/February, but pricing may not be reasonable compared to a discounted 4070

Thank you guys. The 3080 with 24GB seems really sweet if i take a look at the benchmarks (sorry forgot the url, found it on the forums).

Problem is it can only be bough used. For a 800€ buy that is a big risk for me. Especially if you buy it for a business.

16 GB also is a minimum for me. Currently resolve complains all the time because my 1070 ti only has 8GB.

Thank you guys. The 3080 with 24GB seems really sweet if i take a look at the benchmarks (sorry forgot the url, found it on the forums).

Problem is it can only be bough used. For a 800€ buy that is a big risk for me. Especially if you buy it for a business.

The 3090 and 3080 ti have the hot Vram problem which many believe could shorten the life of those cards. Having said that, majority of concern posts steem from Mid 2021, 2.5 years later we aren't seeing an avalanche of dead cards, but maybe their time isn't up yet but will still have a shorter life then other cards.

So, in the end, what did you got?
Are you satisfied?
Disclaimer: I'm particulary interested on the RTX 4060 TI and its 16 GB.

So, in the end, what did you got?
Are you satisfied?
Disclaimer: I'm particulary interested on the RTX 4060 TI and its 16 GB.

I know you are asking the TS, but I will jump in here as I went through that journey.

Wanted to get 3060TI, then waited for 4060. I later decided on 4070. I paid a bit more for 4070 vs 4060, worth the extra. Now the 4070 price has dropped, even better for you. The newer Tensor cores are more powerful, so dont just compare the number of cores.

I use it mainly for photo and video editing. Some games, Fight Simulation (60+ FPS).

9/10 satisfied with what I got.

Thank you guys. The 3080 with 24GB seems really sweet if i take a look at the benchmarks (sorry forgot the url, found it on the forums).

Problem is it can only be bough used. For a 800€ buy that is a big risk for me. Especially if you buy it for a business.

The 3090 and 3080 ti have the hot Vram problem which many believe could shorten the life of those cards. Having said that, majority of concern posts steem from Mid 2021, 2.5 years later we aren't seeing an avalanche of dead cards, but maybe their time isn't up yet but will still have a shorter life then other cards.

I have the 3080Ti and , when running X plane 12 (hard on video cards)and Youtube videos, I get a memory temp of about 95 degrees (well within the 110 max temp) and about 65 degrees GPU temperature. I was worried about the temps at first but after a bit of research, the temps are all within specs by quite a margin. If it goes up in smoke, I'll get another card lol So far I'm happy with the 3080Ti

So, in the end, what did you got?
Are you satisfied?
Disclaimer: I'm particulary interested on the RTX 4060 TI and its 16 GB.

I know you are asking the TS, but I will jump in here as I went through that journey.

Wanted to get 3060TI, then waited for 4060. I later decided on 4070. I paid a bit more for 4070 vs 4060, worth the extra. Now the 4070 price has dropped, even better for you. The newer Tensor cores are more powerful, so dont just compare the number of cores.

I use it mainly for photo and video editing. Some games, Fight Simulation (60+ FPS).

9/10 satisfied with what I got.

Thanks for your contribution. It's highly appreciated!

The thing is that the 4060 TI I'm intersted has 16 GB x standard 4070's 12 GB. And I see people on this forum complaining of not enough memory even with a 24 GB card, on some high res workflows. So, where I live, while the 4060 TI 16 GB is priced faily, the next 16 GB offering with AV1 encoder is the 4070 TI Super, which costs near the double of a 4060 TI and is priced very close to 4080 and 4080 Super.

For video editing, IMHO, a 4060 TI with 16 GB is more future proof than any 8 and 12 GB offering, unless Davinci Resolve brings generative AI tools to futu versions (not the case of Davinci Resolve 19), because 4060's capped memmory bandwidth, makes it perform poor at generative AI tasks, whencompared with 4070s and above.

Since streaming in AV1 is getting more demand, nVidia is also asking premium values for its dual (4070 TI and higher) and tripple (RTX 6000) nvenc encoder solutions (you can read more about it on https://developer.nvidia.com/blog/video ... hitecture/ ).

Thank you guys. The 3080 with 24GB seems really sweet if i take a look at the benchmarks (sorry forgot the url, found it on the forums).

Problem is it can only be bough used. For a 800€ buy that is a big risk for me. Especially if you buy it for a business.

The 3090 and 3080 ti have the hot Vram problem which many believe could shorten the life of those cards. Having said that, majority of concern posts steem from Mid 2021, 2.5 years later we aren't seeing an avalanche of dead cards, but maybe their time isn't up yet but will still have a shorter life then other cards.

I have the 3080Ti and , when running X plane 12 (hard on video cards)and Youtube videos, I get a memory temp of about 95 degrees (well within the 110 max temp) and about 65 degrees GPU temperature. I was worried about the temps at first but after a bit of research, the temps are all within specs by quite a margin. If it goes up in smoke, I'll get another card lol So far I'm happy with the 3080Ti

Have you tried undervolting?
Gpu prices - in particular, nvidia cards aren't really falling in price much if at all. I was thinking about buying a used 3090. Used 3090s had a brief increase in price but now - I am seeing some drops - or ppl just becoming desperate. I am a bit worried about the memory temps too -but, the 3090 clicks most of the boxes except for that and it's previous gen.

The 4070 Ti Super here is $400-$500 more - a used 4080 is about $500 more (than the used 3090). Even on the AMD side - a 7900 XT is $200-$300 more - and nvidia allows me to use Blender, AI programs - just more options - and even in DR - it might be the safer bet, right?

I guess I am getting discouraged saving up for the 4070 series (with 16gb vram) or used 4080. A 3090 also has 24gb of vram so one shouldn't have to be concerned with stretching memory.

[/quote]The 3090 and 3080 ti have the hot Vram problem which many believe could shorten the life of those cards. Having said that, majority of concern posts steem from Mid 2021, 2.5 years later we aren't seeing an avalanche of dead cards, but maybe their time isn't up yet but will still have a shorter life then other cards.[/quote]

I have the 3080Ti and , when running X plane 12 (hard on video cards)and Youtube videos, I get a memory temp of about 95 degrees (well within the 110 max temp) and about 65 degrees GPU temperature. I was worried about the temps at first but after a bit of research, the temps are all within specs by quite a margin. If it goes up in smoke, I'll get another card lol So far I'm happy with the 3080Ti[/quote]Have you tried undervolting?
Gpu prices - in particular, nvidia cards aren't really falling in price much if at all. I was thinking about buying a used 3090. Used 3090s had a brief increase in price but now - I am seeing some drops - or ppl just becoming desperate. I am a bit worried about the memory temps too -but, the 3090 clicks most of the boxes except for that and it's previous gen.

The 4070 Ti Super here is $400-$500 more - a used 4080 is about $500 more (than the used 3090). Even on the AMD side - a 7900 XT is $200-$300 more - and nvidia allows me to use Blender, AI programs - just more options - and even in DR - it might be the safer bet, right?

I guess I am getting discouraged saving up for the 4070 series (with 16gb vram) or used 4080. A 3090 also has 24gb of vram so one shouldn't have to be concerned with stretching memory.[/quote]

Under volting has crossed my mind. I may have to try it tomorrow...see what performance hits I take in the flight sim area.

Well, I gave under volting a try and seem to have some success. Reduced the voltage and also reduced the memory speed...to -500. Results are about an 8 degree drop in memory temp and no noticeable drop in performance in either X Plane or DaVinci Resolve Studio. Thanks for the push to give 'er a try!

Update:

I have put all my voltages back to stock and tried the power limit slider in MSI Afterburner. This did the trick also and in a better way than lowering the voltage. Running X-Plane AND rendering a file in Davinci , the memory temp barely broke 95. My power limit is set at 70 ...3 fps less on X Plane and a 5 minute slide show render only takes 5 seconds longer. So, I'm happy.