UHD HDMI output with 1080HD downconvert

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UHD HDMI output with 1080HD downconvert

PostFri Nov 14, 2014 8:04 pm

One would think....
there would be an option to monitor UHD (via HDMI) and HD (SDI) using a Blackmagic Decklink 4K I/O card. Is there a combination of Desktop Video (10.2.3) settings and the three or four layers of Playback, Monitoring and Scaling in Resolve11 that might yield this magical (some might assume "useful") state?

Although at this point in the week, the fact that I have a picture at all is a minor miracle. Lets say a lot of "cable jiggling" was involved.

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Re: UHD HDMI output with 1080HD downconvert

PostFri Nov 14, 2014 10:18 pm

Resolve does not currently have the ability to do that.
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Re: UHD HDMI output with 1080HD downconvert

PostSat Nov 15, 2014 12:17 am

Feature R12.

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Re: UHD HDMI output with 1080HD downconvert

PostSat Nov 15, 2014 4:53 pm

I've been pondering the same thing and an SDI downconvert box seems the answer. Believe there is a BMD solution for $295. Acceptable I think.
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Re: UHD HDMI output with 1080HD downconvert

PostSat Nov 15, 2014 6:53 pm

Paul Provost wrote:an SDI downconvert box seems the answer.


Sounds like a plan -- looking through the Products listing, though, there don't seem to be any that actually perform this function -- most of them are pass-through that either can't or don't do any resolution conversion. Most of them are straight-through SDI-->HDMI or vice versa.

I have a Teranex2D. I see that Blackmagic has a "UHD" logo placed in conjunction with the current model on the Products page, but there doesn't seem to be any mention of UHD conversion in its TechSpecs. Is this something we might be able to do with a firmware upgrade?

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PostSat Nov 15, 2014 7:09 pm

Hmm you're right. Maybe Aja makes one.
I could use the BMD mini Sdi to hdmi 4k, down convert to hd and use the hdmi input of my Sony pvm 2541 oled...
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Re: UHD HDMI output with 1080HD downconvert

PostMon Nov 17, 2014 8:57 pm

Paul Provost wrote:Sdi requires this


Good info.

Not quite the same price as the Decklink was originally -- hard to imagine a BMD version could be far behind.

Sign me up for one, Grant.

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PostMon Nov 17, 2014 9:02 pm

Me 2
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Re: UHD HDMI output with 1080HD downconvert

PostSat Dec 06, 2014 8:51 pm

I'm proposing something similar so I hope this is not too off topic:

I've been editing HD video for some time and I'm currently building a dedicated HD 'edit suite' for my business. Although my current shoot/edit is mostly HD material and high resolution RAW stills, I have a number of clients who now shoot 4K video material and have never been able to 'see' it at full resolution. (most of my PC based hardware is 4K (UHD) capable)

At home, I had been persisting with a 26" SD CRT monitor for broadcast TV (because the 16:9 SD free to air pictures still looked fantastic as the old CRT monitor was driven YUV from a 'set top box') but I recently made a leap into the modern age and bought Sony's 2014 55" KD55X9000B UHD TV. I am so pleased with the picture and sound quality from the new Sony that I plan to use this TV as a 'client monitor' in my HD edit suite. (it's internal HD>UHD up-scaling ability is truly remarkable)

I already use a 24" colour managed 10bit IPS LED display as a 'grading monitor' with Resolve 11 and it is driven from a BMD Decklink SDI 4K card in the PC with SDI to Display Port conversion carried out by a BMD HDLink box.

Now, the Sony 55" K9B has a 'game' mode which is capable of receiving and delivering a UHD content at 4:4:4 resolution so if I do install this TV as a client monitor, I plan to run an SDI cable from the HDLink box's spare SDI loop though BNC to the TV, then convert the SDI to HDMI 2.0 using the BMD SDI to HDMI mini converter.

Wading through the tech specs of the Decklink SDI I/O card and the SDI > HDMI mini converter, it implies that a 4:4:4 signal path is achievable. Comments or suggestions?
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Re: UHD HDMI output with 1080HD downconvert

PostSat Dec 06, 2014 11:12 pm

I think this is in everybody's future. Count me in too.
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Re: UHD HDMI output with 1080HD downconvert

PostMon Dec 08, 2014 9:30 am

I just got the BMD sdi>hdmi 4k mini converter, and the HD downscale is disappointing. Still going to use it I guess. Wonder if the Aja is any better. It's almost triple the price though.
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