Exclude One Clip From Timeline Node

Hey folks,

is there an easy way to exclude one clip from the changes of the TL Nodes?

As a work around, I tried to add all the clips that should be effected by the TL Nodes to a Pre-Clip Group, copyied the TL Nodes there, and deleted the original TL nodes. So that I could exclude the one clip from all these changes. But the result is different.

Thanks for help

[Rohit Gupta]

Hey folks,

is there an easy way to exclude one clip from the changes of the TL Nodes?

As a work around, I tried to add all the clips that should be effected by the TL Nodes to a Pre-Clip Group, copyied the TL Nodes there, and deleted the original TL nodes. So that I could exclude the one clip from all these changes. But the result is different.

Thanks for help

You want to use Post-Clip, not Pre-Clip.

Thank you Rohit, good to know that TL Nodes are coming after clip Nodes yet moving my nodes from TL to PostClip is still a different result :-/

Add a layer mixer node to the timeline grade. Put it right at the end of the timeline grade but have the input be the Timeline grade input, and set the Key Output Gain to 0 in the Node Key tab.

Now go to the Keyframe tab, right click on the track of the node you just added, and select 'Add EDL Marks On Tracks'. Now move the playhead to any clip you want to exclude from the timeline grade and set Key Output Gain back to 1.

excellent workaround, but I wish it was easier to do too.

often I have the whole movie that require a lut except a handful of shots. and I don't want to waste the groups to do that

Some more workarounds:
- wrap all clips ( except the ones you want to leave out ) in one or more compound clips and then apply lut or grade to compound clips.
- ripple paste lut or compound nodes to your groups so you don't waste you groups

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Some more workarounds:
- wrap all clips ( except the ones you want to leave out ) in one or more compound clips and then apply lut or grade to compound clips.
- ripple paste lut or compound nodes to your groups so you don't waste you groups

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that does not work when you are in the middle of a live project. ..

You are right, that doesn't work all times and it can be slower then we wish but combined with some of the new feature of resolve 12 it saved my day.
In your common scenario clips you want to exclude are already grouped ?
I often use (waste) my groups to apply a "timeline grade " which can be bypassed ungrouping shots. This behaviour has changed my grading routine.
I first create my groups and grade the whole film, then collapse group grades to clip level, then assign all the shots to a new group and apply lut/node if needed to the new macro group, then ungroup shots I want to exclude.
It works but it's not optimal.
I can understand the Timeline mode works, of course, on the whole timeline but in this way it's almost useless and reduntant, in fact if we want to apply lut to everything we can use output lut in project settings. I think what we need in resolve is a track grade level ( moving clips to a certain video track to include or exclude them) or a "master grade" ( with option to exclude some clips) replacing the " timeline".

Going back to the OP question, cutting and pasting grade from timeline to post group should give the exact same result. Timeline grade is coming right after post group so as long as the grade is the same ( you must delete timeline grading though). Be sure you haven't also the same grade applied by mistake to pre group.

Add a layer mixer node to the timeline grade. Put it right at the end of the timeline grade but have the input be the Timeline grade input, and set the Key Output Gain to 0 in the Node Key tab.

Now go to the Keyframe tab, right click on the track of the node you just added, and select 'Add EDL Marks On Tracks'. Now move the playhead to any clip you want to exclude from the timeline grade and set Key Output Gain back to 1.

I've just found this workaround and I have to admit it's briliant. Nevertheless is in the v.15 a builtin function which might do the trick?

Not sure why Resolve has no option to respect the timeline node from a nested timeline similar to a group node, I think that would solve this problem more elegantly.

And even fancier would be to both make the nested timeline and group nodes (prefixed by the nested timeline) of nested timelines available in the node selection list of the color page.

There is no way to have timeline nodes not apply to generated graphics (titles, lower thirds,...)
or not to the track they are in. Except to make them not to be timeline nodes using one of the options outlined above.
Correct?

For some reasons (including graphics and titles clips), I'm looking for any solution too at his point (to exclude 10 clips out of maybe 150 in my actual project)...
Groups would have done the trick, so I'm heading to the shared node equivalence for elegance, but I'm not deeper enough into it so far

Is there a solution to this by now?

I regularly need to insert just a graph or text which I don't want to be affected by the TL node, a simple way to exclude it would be very handy.

Things have changed; since v16 you can use the Adjustment Clip to be put above what's to be applied to only... No more solution for v15.x...

I am using Adjustment Clip, but in many situations a 'exclude from timeline node' would simplify workflow quite a bit. Cheers

Chiming in to say this is a much needed feature.
I have a handful of clips that need to have a separate grade from the rest.

My clunky workaround: Have two separate sets of nodes in timeline that I toggle between, and then do 2 separate exports.

'Exclude from timeline' would be an easy fix.

Maybe a function to create a node that inverts the currently selected node or graph and that copy&paste that node to the excluded graphs?

Maybe a function to create a node that inverts the currently selected node or graph and that copy&paste that node to the excluded graphs?

It might not be possible, imagine a black and white node, but the logo need to be in color

Chiming in to say this is a much needed feature. I have a handful of clips that need to have a separate grade from the rest.

You could always do a Keyframe in the Timeline Grade and turn the grade off within that segment. I don't like having to do this, because it's clunky, but I'll do it if there's no other way.

Same issue here! I got a transition that I don't want to be affected so an adjustment layer wouldn't work. If there was an option in the inspector to bypass, that would awesome!

please can we have a simple 'exclude from timeline grades' feature please. Every colourist and online editor i know would use this feature on every show! It is a bit clunky with these work arounds.

please can we have...

There is a separate forum for Feature Requests.

viewforum.php?f=33

Best practice is to search first, to see if someone already asked. (I think this one might already exist.) If not, post one idea per thread with a very brief description of the idea in the thread's title.

Well... This is depressing. Is there a thread already started in Feature Requests so that I can bump it up and add my support?

New Request Here...
viewtopic.php?f=33&t=178927

(I hope I'm linking correctly)

Chiming in to say this is a much needed feature. I have a handful of clips that need to have a separate grade from the rest.

You could always do a Keyframe in the Timeline Grade and turn the grade off within that segment. I don't like having to do this, because it's clunky, but I'll do it if there's no other way.

brilliant fix, thank you!

Having seen Cullen Kelly’s Look development videos, I would say using the Timeline to apply global effects in many cases, is not the best idea. I never want to apply a look to absolutely everything on my timeline.. titles, lower 3rds and animations etc will have their own set of looks. It’s already been suggested here that using the Post Clip ie. Using Groups would be the way to go. I use groups all the time, but nearly always for input CST’s which would appear in the Pre Clip - as I work with multiple cameras. Post Clip is nearly always redundant so using it for TL global effects makes sense for me. However, I agree that this is something that needs to be addressed within Resolve.

can u plz show us the process?

I'm curious how disabling a grade from a clip works with keyframes. I made keyframes on first frame of each clip in question and then reset the grade on each node I wanted excluded from these clips and no dice. The grade either disappears from the entire timeline or fails to be removed from the clips I key framed.

I'm curious how disabling a grade from a clip works with keyframes. I made keyframes on first frame of each clip in question and then reset the grade on each node I wanted excluded from these clips and no dice. The grade either disappears from the entire timeline or fails to be removed from the clips I key framed.

I describe how to do it above.

I'm curious how disabling a grade from a clip works with keyframes. I made keyframes on first frame of each clip in question and then reset the grade on each node I wanted excluded from these clips and no dice. The grade either disappears from the entire timeline or fails to be removed from the clips I key framed.

keyframes only works if you have a single clip at that point to exclude, if it is (for example) a text over image, you cannot exclude the text but keep the image.

use groups instead.

Wound up using a technique Mark Wielage sent my way.

"You'd have to do a STATIC keyframe on the first frame of shot #1, then another STATIC keyframe on the first frame of shot #2, then another STATIC keyframe on the first frame of shot #3. Now, go to the first frame of shot #2 and reset each node (deleting the correction inside)."

A kind of keyframe sandwich technique if you will. Worked great!

Wound up using a technique Mark Wielage sent my way.

"You'd have to do a STATIC keyframe on the first frame of shot #1, then another STATIC keyframe on the first frame of shot #2, then another STATIC keyframe on the first frame of shot #3. Now, go to the first frame of shot #2 and reset each node (deleting the correction inside)."

A kind of keyframe sandwich technique if you will. Worked great!

If you re-edit the timeline (adding a logo at the beginning for example) those keyframe DO NOT MOVE (be aware)

Good call, Walter!