New Retina Macbook Pro 15" OK for Resolve?

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New Retina Macbook Pro 15" OK for Resolve?

PostThu May 21, 2015 11:01 am

Hi, I'm a new owner of a BMPCC and I'm about to buy the new MBpro 15" with "Intel Iris Pro Graphics
AMD Radeon R9 M370X with 2GB of GDDR5 memory and automatic graphics switching" that apple announced this week.

Will Davinci Resolve work fine in this computer? I'll mostly work in ProRes but probably some raw as well.
I just read in another forum that someone was doubting that AMD radeon R9 would work with Resolve because it can't have CUDA.

I'm not an expert and I'm new at this forum, so hope someone can help me.

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Re: New Retina Macbook Pro 15" OK for Resolve?

PostFri May 22, 2015 12:31 am

It should work. The question is: how well will it work?

You'd want to turn off Automatic Graphics Switching.

And with only 2GB of VRAM, should probably only be used for HD timeline work.

Resolve uses OpenCL processing with AMD GPU's.
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Re: New Retina Macbook Pro 15" OK for Resolve?

PostFri May 22, 2015 3:47 am

15" retina MB pro, with max configuration offered.
Can you post/publish preferred settings/configuration for Resolve on this platform (you mentioned some settings in the previous post - is that all?).
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Re: New Retina Macbook Pro 15" OK for Resolve?

PostFri May 22, 2015 4:10 am

My friend has a Macbook Pro 15" and it has the AMD gpu. It runs Resolve but Resolve freezes or just shuts down at random. It might be that OpenCL is not as dependable for Resolve's used. If you can get the NVidia gpu option, that would be the better option.
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Re: New Retina Macbook Pro 15" OK for Resolve?

PostFri May 22, 2015 7:44 am

Ellory Yu wrote:My friend has a Macbook Pro 15" and it has the AMD gpu. It runs Resolve but Resolve freezes or just shuts down at random. It might be that OpenCL is not as dependable for Resolve's used. If you can get the NVidia gpu option, that would be the better option.


I'm very interested in finding out how the new AMD m370x card will perform in Resolve compared to the 2014 15" rMBP w/ NVidia 750m. Apple claims up to a 70% increase in performance with the AMD, and I'd like to find out how that translates into Resolve's OpenCL implementation compared to the 2 year old 750m's CUDA acceleration.

I'll be paying attention to this thread since I just picked up a maxed out refurb 2014 rMBP when I saw that Apple went with AMD for this round of updates…but now I'm second guessing the decision. I'll be working just with 1080p RAW from the BMPCC and 4k ProResHQ from the BMPC and its my understanding that the 2GB memory for the dGPU is the bottleneck when it comes to working with real time playback.
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Re: New Retina Macbook Pro 15" OK for Resolve?

PostFri May 22, 2015 8:37 pm

I have both a maxed-out 2013 MBP\.
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Re: New Retina Macbook Pro 15" OK for Resolve?

PostTue Jun 02, 2015 2:55 am

AFTER the NLE renders optimized, media, they simultaneously play back smooth as butter. This is critical for me (don't know about other editors).
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Re: New Retina Macbook Pro 15" OK for Resolve?

PostTue Jun 02, 2015 6:12 am

What does the '3.6' mean. If you are referring to the CPU then that's only a 'turbo' speed. It can only stay at that speed if the system doesn't get too hot. As soon as the CPU reaches it's thermal max then the CPU throttles back to down.

Have you checked in your NLE that it's playing back the 4K clips at 4K in full not at a reduced res.

Also I suspect the 'optimized media' is just a render down of the 3 clips plus effects into 1 single clip so no real surprise that it can then play back what is essentially a single layer clip
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Re: New Retina Macbook Pro 15" OK for Resolve?

PostThu Jun 11, 2015 10:59 pm

2.8 base speed, you are right.
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Re: New Retina Macbook Pro 15" OK for Resolve?

PostSat Nov 14, 2015 12:00 pm

just logged in to say that it works fine, no significant lags. compared to 2012 cmbp, 2015 (16gb, 512ssd, 2gbVRAM) is extremely smooth.

long story short - yes, it`s even more than OK for resolve.
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Re: New Retina Macbook Pro 15" OK for Resolve?

PostSat Nov 21, 2015 3:17 am

Just picked one up MBP 15" 512G flash /16G,excited to test it out :)
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Re: New Retina Macbook Pro 15" OK for Resolve?

PostFri Feb 26, 2016 3:24 pm

Hey... Really would love to know your current experiences with the new MacBook Pro.

I want to buy a 15", 2,5 GHz 256GB, 16GB, Nvidia 750 next week but before I spent 2400euros I would like to know if you would recommend that. It is mainly for HD pre color grading on set including dailies and proxies and I would like to have the seup as minimal as possible. So no MacPro.

Tell me what you think. Nvidia or AMD? Still differences?

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Re: New Retina Macbook Pro 15" OK for Resolve?

PostSat Feb 27, 2016 12:24 am

Miguel Ottaviano wrote:15" retina MB pro, with max configuration offered. Can you post/publish preferred settings/configuration for Resolve on this platform (you mentioned some settings in the previous post - is that all?).

The recommended Resolve configurations specs are here:

http://documents.blackmagicdesign.com/D ... _Guide.pdf

My opinion is that Resolve is a demanding program that will not generally do well with any laptop. I think you need lots of system RAM and powerful GPUs with lots of VRAM in order to work with real-time footage. You can do a degree of work with HD material, but Noise Reduction or any complex node structure will slow you down quite a bit.

I blame Apple for still not offering a true "desktop replacement" laptop that crams everything into it. It's possible with some other companies (like Alienware) who make powerful Windows laptops, but we no longer have that option for Mac OSX.
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Re: New Retina Macbook Pro 15" OK for Resolve?

PostSat Feb 27, 2016 12:44 am

I only have the free version of Resolve, so noise reduction isn't an issue for me (it would be a nice problem to have) but it runs pretty well on my top spec, current model of the 15" Macbook Pro. I do relatively simple edits and grades on short videos so my experience may not be typical.
Version 12.3 is very unstable for me though, lots of crashes.
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Re: New Retina Macbook Pro 15" OK for Resolve?

PostSun Feb 28, 2016 8:55 am

MarkusKreuzwirth wrote:Hey... Really would love to know your current experiences with the new MacBook Pro.

I want to buy a 15", 2,5 GHz 256GB, 16GB, Nvidia 750 next week but before I spent 2400euros I would like to know if you would recommend that. It is mainly for HD pre color grading on set including dailies and proxies and I would like to have the seup as minimal as possible. So no MacPro.

Tell me what you think. Nvidia or AMD? Still differences?

cheers...



I have new MBP 15 2.5 GHZ 16GB 500 GB SSD....its snappy and does ok better then my Asus beefed up gaming laptop g74 gtx560 3gb 32 Gig ram 1tb Samsung EVO SSD.


Apparently NVIDIA 750 will be faster for some applications and programs,while AMD works 70% better with FCPX.
Haven't really done full heavy grades yet but with current Resolve options to optimise media and relink proxies I think will be more then capable for HD and 2K.

I would hold out for new major MBP Apple release soon....
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Re: New Retina Macbook Pro 15" OK for Resolve?

PostSun Feb 28, 2016 10:15 am

What you should probably mention to put it in proper context is that your 'beefed up' gaming laptop is 5 years old and not the top end mobile GPU even then. The GTX 560m only has 192 CUDA cores so no real surprise that Resolve and other programs reliant on CUDA would be pretty crappy
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Re: New Retina Macbook Pro 15" OK for Resolve?

PostSun Feb 28, 2016 2:28 pm

Dwaine Maggart wrote:It should work. The question is: how well will it work?

You'd want to turn off Automatic Graphics Switching.
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Is this preference at the Finder level or Davinci Resolve? I can not find it.
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Re: New Retina Macbook Pro 15" OK for Resolve?

PostSun Feb 28, 2016 3:58 pm

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Now that the cat #19 is out of the bag, test it as much as you can and use the subforum.

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Re: New Retina Macbook Pro 15" OK for Resolve?

PostSun Feb 28, 2016 10:26 pm

Adam Simmons wrote:What you should probably mention to put it in proper context is that your 'beefed up' gaming laptop is 5 years old and not the top end mobile GPU even then. The GTX 560m only has 192 CUDA cores so no real surprise that Resolve and other programs reliant on CUDA would be pretty crappy



Yes,it's over 4years old and was top of the range when I bought it.
So is the MBP 2013 GT 750 3yrs old.
So its relevant to compare.

Interested to know is your Clevo good machine to cope with heavy grades and 4 k?
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Re: New Retina Macbook Pro 15" OK for Resolve?

PostMon Feb 29, 2016 7:29 am

Well the GTX 560M wasn't top of the range on the GPU side back then, it was a mid range mobile GPU as you had the GTX 570m and GTX 580M above that model. The GT 750M was from the next range of mobile GPU's and has 386 CUDA cores so no real surprise that it would seem 'slicker' as with each new generation they get faster and seem to have more CUDA cores.

As to how well my current model works, that would depend on what you do with it. My boss is the one who tends to use it for Resolve and editing more so than I do and I know he loves it, he keeps screens at work and home and just moves the laptop between the 2 locations, saves him keeping desktops in both locations. Some argue that the laptop isn't as good as a high-end desktop, which is true, but for the equivalent power (ie same desktop CPU and GPU) they are like for like. We see no real performance difference on the laptop with a 6700K CPU and the GTX 980 (non m) GPU and a desktop system using a 6700K CPU and a standard GTX 980 only differences is that the laptop gets louder than the desktop when rendering due to the fans having to kick in
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