Can you roundtrip to Logic Pro as well as Pro Tools?

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Can you roundtrip to Logic Pro as well as Pro Tools?

PostTue Sep 08, 2015 6:22 pm

I know that you can export to Pro Tools, but can you export and roundtrip to Logic Pro? That would be awesome, for those of us who use that.
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Re: Can you roundtrip to Logic Pro as well as Pro Tools?

PostWed Sep 09, 2015 12:10 am

I'm not sure the export to ProTools is actually working.
I haven't been able to successfully export to ProTools.
Has anyone had this working?
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Re: Can you roundtrip to Logic Pro as well as Pro Tools?

PostWed Sep 09, 2015 3:24 am

My opinion is that Logic is not a good choice for doing final mixes & edits for film & TV, particularly timecode based where you need to pull in a video for reference. Pro Tools is tailor-made for this.
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Re: Can you roundtrip to Logic Pro as well as Pro Tools?

PostWed Sep 09, 2015 4:42 am

My opinion is that Logic is not a good choice for doing final mixes & edits for film & TV, particularly timecode based where you need to pull in a video for reference.


Marc, are you basing this on recent experience with Logic Pro X? There's a whole suite of tools for putting sound to picture now.

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Re: Can you roundtrip to Logic Pro as well as Pro Tools?

PostFri Sep 11, 2015 12:17 am

It looks like Logic Pro X can deal with AAF files, so it might work? I just haven't gotten to this point in the project yet and I have Logic on my other computer. Just wanted to check a little early on this.

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Re: Can you roundtrip to Logic Pro as well as Pro Tools?

PostSat Sep 12, 2015 5:58 am

Lee Gauthier wrote:[Marc, are you basing this on recent experience with Logic Pro X? There's a whole suite of tools for putting sound to picture now.

You asked my opinion -- I gave you my opinion.
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Re: Can you roundtrip to Logic Pro as well as Pro Tools?

PostSat Sep 12, 2015 10:30 am

Marc Wielage wrote:You asked my opinion -- I gave you my opinion.



Actually, I asked if your opinion was based on current data. Things change.
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Re: Can you roundtrip to Logic Pro as well as Pro Tools?

PostSat Sep 12, 2015 11:04 am

Can you share your reasons, Marc?
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Re: Can you roundtrip to Logic Pro as well as Pro Tools?

PostSun Sep 13, 2015 10:35 am

Peter Cave wrote:Can you share your reasons, Marc?

I've used them both and my reaction was that Logic was a terrible program. I know of many, many TV series and films around the world that are strictly mixed in Pro Tools, and I think there are good reasons to stick with it.

I think for music, the sky's the limit -- you can use anything from Garage Band to Audition to Cubase to Digital Performer to Sound Forge. There's no rules there and all kinds of music projects that can work, particularly if you're just recording 3-minute pop songs. But I think when you need to make hundreds (even thousands) of changes, deal with hundreds of tracks, incorporate dozens and dozens of plug-ins, and also follow a known workflow that absolutely works for longform entertainment, plus follows well-established industry practices that include many thousands of potential editors and mixers who can work with it, you have to go with Pro Tools.

Look at it this way: BMD included a mode to export OMF's for Pro Tools from Resolve. This is a standard that's very hard to break. Check out the pro audio discussion groups around the web, and you'll see there are good reasons why Pro Tools has a pretty tight hold on the industry. In truth, the choice of the DAW is relatively cheap (even one as costly as Pro Tools); it's the plug-ins that cost many thousands of dollars.
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Re: Can you roundtrip to Logic Pro as well as Pro Tools?

PostFri Sep 18, 2015 5:08 am

Hey Marc, just a note, Resolve can't export OMF's.
AAF export for Protools didn't actually seem to work during the beta's (on a Mac afaik).
I do agree with everything you're but just want to warn people thinking of moving to Resolve an editor that they should test the exporting to Protools functionality if this is important to them.
A workaround is XML export to FCP7 then OMF export from there.

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