Keyframe Easing within Editor

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Keyframe Easing within Editor

PostThu May 19, 2016 5:36 pm

Can someone please explain to me how to edit transform keyframes in resolve and add smooth handles for smooth transitions.

Position curves do not seem to show up for me in the curve editor. See attached.
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I don't even see the option to display position in the transform section
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Re: Keyframe Easing within Editor

PostFri May 20, 2016 1:23 am

I don't see any keyframes at all. What if you manually add some keyframes and then see if those show up? Once they show up, then you can use the ease controls on most functions.
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Re: Keyframe Easing within Editor

PostFri May 20, 2016 5:26 pm

Tried that and nothing shows up for position...I can add keyframes to most other qttributes
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Re: Keyframe Easing within Editor

PostFri May 20, 2016 6:39 pm

Not sure if this will help. See the short section entitled "Keyframing and Curves".

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Re: Keyframe Easing within Editor

PostMon Jul 03, 2017 11:42 am

I confirm that position keyframes are NOT showing up in the curve editor.
We can edit pretty much every other parameter, but not X&Y position.
Seems like a big oversight to me. It's such a basic feature.

Why on earth can we use bezier handles to edit cropping keyframes, but not our footage position ?! :(
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Re: Keyframe Easing within Editor

PostMon Jul 03, 2017 2:44 pm

I have the same issue with position curves as well. I cannot select or modify in the curve editor.

I was under the impression that it is a known bug but I could be wrong on that.


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Re: Keyframe Easing within Editor

PostFri Jul 28, 2017 4:20 am

I am currently having the same issue. No curves in the position transform. It doesn't seem to be able to ease in or out.

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The "curves" work differently as this issue has been discussed in other threads. Keyframes can be manipulated only with the transform tool activated. not very intuitive.
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Re: Keyframe Easing within Editor

PostSun Sep 17, 2017 12:32 pm

This is now a problem for me, too. Zoom X and Zoom Y show up as keyframes I can ease or not ease, but lack of ease on Position X and Position Y is a killer. Please give us position keyframes in Resolve 14.1!
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Re: Keyframe Easing within Editor

PostSun Sep 17, 2017 7:06 pm

Is there some other way to modify the position curve? I seem to recall seeing something where the curve itself is on the source viewer... I'm losing it :)
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Re: Keyframe Easing within Editor

PostSun Sep 17, 2017 7:52 pm

Ah - I see - it seems as mentioned above that you must use the transform settings X,Y under the 'Video' tab of the 'Inspector'. Then you can add X,Y keyframes and these appear in the record monitor. You can then right-click on these to select 'smooth' interpolation and hence you have a set of keyframes on a path mapped-out in the record monitor. This gives you more control over the spatial coordinates of the title across time.

This is what I was thinking of in my previous post.
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Re: Keyframe Easing within Editor

PostThu Sep 28, 2017 4:55 pm

Steve Alexander wrote:You can then right-click on these to select 'smooth' interpolation and hence you have a set of keyframes on a path mapped-out in the record monitor.

And, to perform easing, one needs to use the smaller dot-control between the keyframe and its curve handle to change the temporal bias of that keyframe. Moving the dot closer to the keyframe tightens the spacing at that end, such that the movement is slower going out of or into that keyframe.

The biggest problem with this interface approach is that it usually requires really zooming tight into the viewer to see the control, which is very small and easy to mistake for one of the frame markers along the curve.

Add my voice to the people wanting to see Position added to the curves options on the Timeline.
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Re: Keyframe Easing within Editor

PostThu Sep 28, 2017 5:42 pm

I find it so much easier (tab edit) to click on the tools 'transform' (1).
Open the Inspector:
Play. Stop. and then drag to the position you want. Stop play. Drag, etc...
Then to refine, one can at the near frame, change a position X, Y and even rotation by advancing to the image: then drag in X, Y and even rotation. If you can not find enough precise: change the values in the inspector. The best result of the created effect is displayed on the screen. It's very interactive. :)

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Re: Keyframe Easing within Editor

PostFri Sep 29, 2017 3:18 am

It can get very messy in the viewer. Plus, I'd like to get at temporal bezier handles for position keyframes too.

Add this, please, BM!
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Re: Keyframe Easing within Editor

PostTue Oct 17, 2017 10:30 pm

In my use-case this is not working out. I'm using an extremely large photo (stitched together using Hugin) and want to zoom out and in while panning to different locations.
Without easing anything, the desired path of motion is correct. But as soon as I try easing any aspect (zoom or position) the movement starts going in an S-shape and it's impossible to sync the two splines to match each other exactly, resulting in a wibbley-wobbly seasick experience.

I'm also unable to reach some zoom spline points because they go out of scope (far above the top of the spline editor) and there's no scroll-bar there to reach them.

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Re: Keyframe Easing within Editor

PostSun Nov 26, 2017 7:37 pm

I, too, wish I could ease Position X and Position Y.
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Re: Keyframe Easing within Editor

PostFri Jul 20, 2018 12:53 pm

I am able to see the keyframes, but when I select them, there is no way to add an ease in, ease out or ease in&out.

This means you get very ugly moves when you zoom and position an object. The ease in&out for position and scale should be matched so you see a smooth movement.
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Re: Keyframe Easing within Editor

PostTue Jul 24, 2018 2:53 pm

Would it be possible to add this in 15 beta??? Please??
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Re: Keyframe Easing within Editor

PostTue Jul 24, 2018 5:06 pm

Joshua Morin wrote:Would it be possible to add this in 15 beta??? Please??


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Re: Keyframe Easing within Editor

PostSat Dec 07, 2019 7:01 am

Bump.

I can get "ease in" bezier handles on the X coordinate keyframes I've made, but adjusting the curve does absolutely nothing to the speed of the movement, unless I go too far in which case it seems to ease (but backwards, which makes sense in itself). This seems to be a bug, but the interface is quite poor too.
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Re: Keyframe Easing within Editor

PostThu Feb 06, 2020 1:21 pm

*BUMP*

I am using Resolve 15.
This is still a problem.
I am working with 4K source footage, making an HD video.
Making a long smooth "zoom out" in the footage in the project is impossible without getting a little "jerk" or "bump" at the end.

I tried all the advice in this thread.

Yes. You can make a "ease in and out" on the transform if you do it in the inspector window (right click on the keyframe button in inspector after you make the keyframe), but it doesn't do it no matter how you try. This is either a bug or a design flaw.

Please fix it, as reframing footage within larger source footage is common practice.
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Re: Keyframe Easing within Editor

PostSun Feb 09, 2020 2:25 pm

I'm using DR Studio 16.1.2.026 and I can't believe this is still a problem, but it is.
I just want to dynamically change the position of some 2D text.

It should be so easy - drop text onto new track, Inspect, look at the video tab, make a node where I want the text to start moving, make a node where I want it to stop moving, smooth them both, and have a smooth transition.

But no - that starts and stops with a bump (and the viewing of the nodes in the node viewer is very temperamental too). You can see in the dots on the transform graph on the timeline viewer that nothimg happens when you "smooth" a node. if you're a couple of frames off the start or end points and you switch between linear and smooth you can see that the nothing changes - where you'd expect to see a change in position.

Instead I have to take that text effect, make a compound clip from it, make a Fusion clip from that, go into Fusion, make the start and end nodes, view splines, ease in/out on the nodes. Terrible User eXperiance.

Worse, I can't see the video on the layer(s) below the text while I'm making the change. Which is the whole point of a multi-layer video timeline.

Now, I love DR Studio, I've paid for it, and mostly editing is a dream with it. But silly bugs like this are really infuriating - and hard to evangelise to one's colleagues that DR is a good option to switch to.
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Re: Keyframe Easing within Editor

PostWed Feb 12, 2020 10:34 pm

IMO, keyframe easing in DR is a low priority item as most long time users of BM software would "just go do it in Fusion". There is much better easing and control of source media in Fusion.

The thing is, many of us here are coming from Premiere. In Premiere, dropping some animated text onto the timeline and easing it into place is super simple.

BMD wants to bring users of Premiere into the BMD universe. If they're smart, they'll knock these kinds of things off the list. it's these little things that will keep people off the system. Especially now that BMD themselves released the BRAW plugin for Premiere.

I had a project recently where I did exactly what you were doing. Simple text and animate its display in the frame. Even though easing is 'applied', I honestly couldn't see any difference with it applied or not. Start/end keys were still way too abrupt. It just didn't have the same smooth quality you can get in Premiere or AE.

Now could this be something to do with Adobe splitting out keyframe and velocity graphs to be separate?
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Re: Keyframe Easing within Editor

PostFri Aug 07, 2020 3:37 pm

Same. Selecting "Ease In" puts a bit of a curve on the line but there's no visual difference in the clip. I can manually move the handles around to change the way it eases but it's impossible to move the handles for both X and Y to the exact same place which means they don't move together consistently. Plus it's super easy to accidentally move a handle below the line, causing an unwanted "bounce" effect. You'd think this would be a simple thing to do...
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Re: Keyframe Easing within Editor

PostFri Aug 07, 2020 4:27 pm

dev_willis wrote:Same. Selecting "Ease In" puts a bit of a curve on the line but there's no visual difference in the clip. I can manually move the handles around to change the way it eases but it's impossible to move the handles for both X and Y to the exact same place which means they don't move together consistently. Plus it's super easy to accidentally move a handle below the line, causing an unwanted "bounce" effect. You'd think this would be a simple thing to do...


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