The stabilizer: new vs old?

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The stabilizer: new vs old?

PostMon May 01, 2017 1:34 pm

Hello!

I'm looking into the new stabilizer of the 14-beta...
At the first look, it's the same with fewer controls.

I read the manual, but there is almost no info about the differences, except the phrase "new advanced"...
Did I miss something?
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Re: The stabilizer: new vs old?

PostMon May 01, 2017 2:14 pm

I do not know. I started comparing the manuals of the V12.5.5 and the V14 for stabilization. That's the best thing to do for now.
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Re: The stabilizer: new vs old?

PostMon May 01, 2017 2:33 pm

Yeah, you missed something...
It's warping.
The new one does warping like After Effects' Warp Stabilizer VFX.
Though it lacks several dozens of manual controls, which AE has and the ability to change the settings and not been re-analysed all over again...
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Re: The stabilizer: new vs old?

PostMon May 01, 2017 2:45 pm

Yes thanks. Found Page 1050: Perspective.
I go back to my manual. Thanks again.
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Re: The stabilizer: new vs old?

PostTue May 02, 2017 11:35 am

The new R14b stabiliser works very well. Much better than the 12.5 version.
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Re: The stabilizer: new vs old?

PostTue May 02, 2017 1:41 pm

Peter Cave wrote:The new R14b stabiliser works very well. Much better than the 12.5 version.


Fully agree, I tested on two scenes where the stabilization did not really work in v12.5 and in v14 it did a great job.
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Re: The stabilizer: new vs old?

PostWed May 24, 2017 11:56 pm

I'm not sure why the team would essentially dumb down the stabilizer.... Sure fix the algorithm, but why did they remove the manual functions of selecting different points of interest on the image etc?

Will this be back in the full version or the final release of the program?
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Re: The stabilizer: new vs old?

PostTue Dec 12, 2017 7:48 am

I can see that it added Warping to the process. I can really see it, too much. How do i just turn off the warping? I have selected every option. Perspective, Similarity, and Translation. Adjusted Strong and Smooth, but every one of them I try gives me tons of screen warping. I want it off completely, but even in the old stabilizer it happens too. I tried it in a new project and still the same results. Pretty disappointing to need to go back to Premiere just for this one function.
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Re: The stabilizer: new vs old?

PostTue Dec 12, 2017 5:04 pm

You can just go back to the old Classic Stabilizer in the options of the Tracking section.

Basically, you have two complete stabilizers since V14.
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Re: The stabilizer: new vs old?

PostThu Dec 14, 2017 8:30 am

Thanks, but I tried that. As I said in my post. I think it's possibly a processing lag, nothing seems to change, or only slightly. I will try using optimized media.
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Re: The stabilizer: new vs old?

PostThu Dec 14, 2017 9:38 am

tonywilliams wrote:I can see that it added Warping to the process. I can really see it, too much. How do i just turn off the warping? I have selected every option. Perspective, Similarity, and Translation. Adjusted Strong and Smooth, but every one of them I try gives me tons of screen warping. I want it off completely, but even in the old stabilizer it happens too. I tried it in a new project and still the same results. Pretty disappointing to need to go back to Premiere just for this one function.


The warping you see in the "old" stabilizer is probably due to your camera's Rolling Shutter effect being augmented; stabilizing (in any NLE I know) is where RS hits the strongest. The best results in fighting the RS-related warping I've seen in the stand-alone version of Mercalli 4.0.

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Re: The stabilizer: new vs old?

PostThu Dec 21, 2017 5:04 pm

Don't forget to hit stabilize after each setting being changed in the new stabilizer!

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