Resolve 14 & Avid Artist Mix Both HUI Compatible

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FabriceAragno

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Resolve 14 & Avid Artist Mix Both HUI Compatible

PostWed Sep 06, 2017 7:42 am

Hi
How is it possible to use Avid Artist Mix control surface (HUI Compatible) with Resolve 14 Beta 9 also HUI compatible as announced?
In control panels / Sys pref there is only Midi Protocol choice. No ethernet Eucon etc.. Will there be soon?
I need to choose between Resolve 14 for all post-prod (Composing, color, mix, deliver, etc) or switching between Resolve and Pro Tools for the next new JL Godard film.
But I need to mix with a control surface, such Artis Mix that I have already. (I use Artist color also)
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Re: Resolve 14 & Avid Artist Mix Both HUI Compatible

PostThu Sep 07, 2017 7:30 am

Many waiting for this... i hope.

as i mentioned in another thread. The more we are waiting for Mix is working, the faster BMD will offer this
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Re: Resolve 14 & Avid Artist Mix Both HUI Compatible

PostFri Sep 29, 2017 1:40 am

YES! MANY ARE WAITING FOR THIS! LET'S HOPE FOR THE BEST!

In fact, why not enable the EuCon protocol for control of the Fairlight page as well. I currently use Avid Artist Color via EuCon to control my Color Page. EuCon is faster, more stable and robust that both HUI and MCU.

So why not?

That said... keep up the great job BlackMagic!

Studio 14 has been a big win already!

Keep it coming!

Cheers!
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Re: Resolve 14 & Avid Artist Mix Both HUI Compatible

PostFri Sep 29, 2017 3:10 am

FYI, Fairlight already had the HUI compatible code base and we have implemented that in v14. We don't have Eucon for Artist Mix and while it's on the request list there are a number of other projects we are working on so the Eucon support is far from close.
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Re: Resolve 14 & Avid Artist Mix Both HUI Compatible

PostFri Sep 29, 2017 3:44 pm

Thank you for the EuCon update Peter,

I have an Avid Artist Control and an Avid Artist Mix - both of which are supposed to support HUI or MCU. After choosing both HUI and MCU in the Audio Control preferences, why am I NOT ABLE to use either device to control the Fairlight page?

Am I missing something?

Kindly advise.

Thank you!

Rob
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Re: Resolve 14 & Avid Artist Mix Both HUI Compatible

PostSat Sep 30, 2017 5:35 am

I'm not sure Rob. We don't have either device at this time to review.
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Re: Resolve 14 & Avid Artist Mix Both HUI Compatible

PostSat Sep 30, 2017 10:13 pm

Thanks again for your reply Peter.

In an attempt to help make Resolve the best it can be, I’ll gladly overnight my devices to you at my cost if you like. Considering the fact that I’m unable to use them with Resolve today, I’m sure you and your team can put them to better use than me for the time being.

Kindly let me know, as this is a good faith offer for sure.

Keep up the good work.

Best!
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Re: Resolve 14 & Avid Artist Mix Both HUI Compatible

PostSun Nov 12, 2017 12:23 pm

Hi fellows,
As well as some of you, I'm the owner of some avid control surfaces. I'm also pretty excited by the new Fairlight panel in DaVinci Resolve 14. So when I first found out that it supports Mackie and HUI protocols, I was like "Wow ! Good news !".

I'm on Mac so I went in my EUCON preferences panel, added DaVinci resolve in the list of controllable apps, restarted my system, went in DaVinci preferences to configure my controller and nothing happened...

Very frustrated at first, I checked everything, did the whole thing from zero. Still NOTHING.
Went on the internet to see if I was missing anything on the subject. Nothing usable.

While I was pulling my hair I noticed something : on the artist control, the name of the active app showing on the upper left corner of the touch screen, doesn't match the name of the application showing on the upper left corner of my macOS X bar !

According to Osx I'm running "DaVinci Resolve"
According to Eucon I'm running "Blackmagic DaVinci Resolve"

While I thought this is very likely to be the problem, I also thought how the the hell am I going to get around that.
Here's what I found :
Go in the application folder, right clic on DaVinci Resolve app and choose "Show package content", enter the Contents folder, find Info.plist and open it in a text editor. You will have to change the text so that where it says "Blackmagic DaVinci Resolve" it would says "DaVinci Resolve" instead. Save and close the file, run DaVinci.

And Voilà! It works!

There's not much you can do with the controller though : you have transport, solo, mute, select, volume fader.
I don't know the trick on windows (if there even is the same problem on this platform)
I guess I have to report this to Blackmagic...

Hope this will help some of you.
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Re: Resolve 14 & Avid Artist Mix Both HUI Compatible

PostWed Nov 15, 2017 2:56 pm

Thanks. Yes please post this to BMD. Unforunatelly i have a Windows system. So still waiting for a solution...
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Re: Resolve 14 & Avid Artist Mix Both HUI Compatible

PostSun Nov 19, 2017 6:47 pm

John_C_Tout...

You are the Man!

Thank you for the workaround!

Let's hope Blackmagic finally enables the full Eucon protocol!

For now, I'm happy I have SOME control!

Have a great day!
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Re: Resolve 14 & Avid Artist Mix Both HUI Compatible

PostSun Nov 19, 2017 10:06 pm

Wow, that is an interesting workaround.
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Re: Resolve 14 & Avid Artist Mix Both HUI Compatible

PostTue Dec 05, 2017 12:14 pm

After further thinking and researching, another version of the solution consists of changing the app name directly in the Eucon settings by doing so :
go to ~/Library/Preferences/
Find com.euphonix.EuConSystem.plist and open it

This file shows the settings for every app you added in de EuCon preferences.

Edit the xml code so that the string below the key "App Name" matches exactly what Application name EuCon detects when the app is focused. In the case of Da Vinci it must be "Blackmagic DaVinci Resolve" (if you didn't change it yet)

This method might be better since you don't have to do it every time you install or update your apps.
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Re: Resolve 14 & Avid Artist Mix Both HUI Compatible

PostWed Dec 06, 2017 4:26 pm

Up with this topic.

Any additional input from you John_C_Tout ?
Happy about the way your Artist panels work with Resolve ?

Is there anywhere I can find the mapping details with such interface ?

As a new Resolve user, I'm considering the best hardware options I can have.

Currently have an good option for second-hand Artist series panels (Color and Mix).
Just wondering if it's a viable solution or not.
Plan B is saving bucks for BMD Resolve Micro and some Fairlight panel (if comes out one day ...), but playing with mouse & clicks has its limits :?

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