Resolve vs Studio: speed differences?

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Resolve vs Studio: speed differences?

PostThu Sep 14, 2017 12:23 pm

Hello.
Is DaVinci Resolve free faster that Studio?
I remember some people reported this in the past. What about v14? Do someone have this experience?
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Re: Resolve vs Studio: speed differences?

PostThu Sep 14, 2017 1:36 pm

If nothing change in your hardware nothing change in performance.

If you have 4gpu, the studio version will use all 4, the other only 1
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Re: Resolve vs Studio: speed differences?

PostThu Sep 14, 2017 1:38 pm

As far as I can see, Studio is faster with H.264.
Now that the cat #19 is out of the bag, test it as much as you can and use the subforum.

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Re: Resolve vs Studio: speed differences?

PostThu Sep 14, 2017 1:44 pm

Uli Plank wrote:As far as I can see, Studio is faster with H.264.


You might be right, i teenager reading something in the notes, does not apply to is because we work with monsters EXR/DPX...
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Re: Resolve vs Studio: speed differences?

PostThu Sep 14, 2017 7:46 pm

Alex Potemkin wrote:Hello.
Is DaVinci Resolve free faster that Studio?
I remember some people reported this in the past. What about v14? Do someone have this experience?

I purchased Studio to be able to edit H.264 in real-time on the system you see below. Using the free version, editing H.264 in real-time was impossible. Using Studio I never experience any dropped frames no matter what I'm doing.

Your mileage may vary depending on your hardware. I'm just using a modest laptop.
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Re: Resolve vs Studio: speed differences?

PostFri Sep 15, 2017 5:52 am

Gary - Interesting results on a 4 core CPU and a 1050 GPU.
Is your H.264 HD or 4k/UHD? How many layers?
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Re: Resolve vs Studio: speed differences?

PostFri Sep 15, 2017 3:30 pm

Al Spaeth wrote:Gary - Interesting results on a 4 core CPU and a 1050 GPU.
Is your H.264 HD or 4k/UHD? How many layers?
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Al - For me buying Studio has made all the difference. I am editing footage from my DJI Mavic Pro drone shot in H.264 at 3840 x 2160 UHD. I am also editing footage from my DJI OSMO+ shot at 3840 x 2160 UHD and my Sony RX10M3 shot at 3840 x 2160 UHD. I can edit natively with my timeline set at 3840 x 2160 UHD and 24 FPS smoothly with absolutely zero dropped frames. When I add some color correction work it doesn't affect timeline playback.

I would have thought that I would need to spend big bucks on a high end desktop system to get this kind of performance. All I spent was $2400 for the laptop you see below. For me the boys at Blackmagic got it right with DaVinci Resolve Studio 14.
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Re: Resolve vs Studio: speed differences?

PostSat Sep 16, 2017 10:27 am

Thanks Gary - I'm moving to 4K and getting a Mavic Pro(2), have two GoPros and use a DSLR. Want to produce promo vids on fly fishing etc here in South Africa. H.264 is the challenge. Yours is the first encouraging news on Resolve 14 performance on affordable PC hardware as I've been testing the free version betas. Great news.
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PostSat Sep 16, 2017 3:16 pm

Al - I understand that Studio 14 uses the nVidia GPU's ability to internally process H.264. The Free version apparently doesn't have this capability. For what I'm doing $299 USD for the Studio upgrade was money very well spent. What hardware are you using?
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PostSat Sep 16, 2017 3:25 pm

Gary - Planning an upgrade to my old desktop. Limited budget but am not an AMD fan yet so looking at new Coffee Lake gen 8 upgrade to your i7-7700 - a 6 core CPU i7-8700K due out next month. :)
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Re: Resolve vs Studio: speed differences?

PostSat Sep 16, 2017 3:32 pm

Al - What GPU will you be using?
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Re: Resolve vs Studio: speed differences?

PostSat Sep 16, 2017 3:41 pm

Gary Coombs wrote:Al - What GPU will you be using?

Currently have a Gigabyte G1 GTX960 4GB which I'll test but have a feeling I'll have to throw it out. GPU prices are high at the moment but I was thinking maybe a 1070TI.
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Re: Resolve vs Studio: speed differences?

PostSat Sep 16, 2017 3:41 pm

Gary Coombs wrote:Al - What GPU will you be using?

Currently have a Gigabyte G1 GTX960 4GB which I'll test but have a feeling I'll have to throw it out. GPU prices are high at the moment but I was thinking maybe a 1070TI.
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Re: Resolve vs Studio: speed differences?

PostSat Sep 16, 2017 4:01 pm

Al - Based on the great performance I'm getting with my modest setup, you should be very impressed with a Studio 14 upgrade!
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PostSat Sep 16, 2017 8:17 pm

Thanks for the info Gary - looking forward to it :)
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Re: Resolve vs Studio: speed differences?

PostTue Sep 19, 2017 2:39 pm

Is this deliberate and official? If so then many new users will feel like they don't want to switch to Resolve if the performance isn't up to scratch. If I were a new user I would never have assumed that paying for it would deliver better GPU performance.
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Re: Resolve vs Studio: speed differences?

PostFri Sep 22, 2017 2:12 pm

Paul Willis wrote:Is this deliberate and official? If so then many new users will feel like they don't want to switch to Resolve if the performance isn't up to scratch. If I were a new user I would never have assumed that paying for it would deliver better GPU performance.


The team of developers spend, let's say a month, to improve h264 performances: do you want it for free?

Really?
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Re: Resolve vs Studio: speed differences?

PostFri Sep 22, 2017 3:20 pm

There are those who believe that software should be free. I understand that there exists a community of individuals who donate their time for all sorts of free stuff. Open source communities, for example. However, Black Magic Design is not a non-profit organization. The fact that they provide a free version of Resolve and Fusion is a mystery to me, particularly when you consider that the free versions are barely crippled.

Even more incredibly is the fact that they now sell the Studio version of Resolve for $299 (down from $999 which was already a great deal - no annual fee and so far, even major upgrades like 12.5 to 14 were free for Studio users).

I don't really like being in the mode of an apologist for BMD but whenever I see someone complain that the free version is lacking some feature for which they would have to pay $299 to get the Studio version, it really bugs me. I can't even imagine how the product team feels when they read these posts.

For those who wish to complain about how unfair it is that the free version lacks certain features, perhaps start a new thread and explain why you believe companies do not have a right to make a bit of coin for a lot of hard work... It would be an interesting read.
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Re: Resolve vs Studio: speed differences?

PostFri Sep 22, 2017 3:39 pm

Well said!
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Re: Resolve vs Studio: speed differences?

PostFri Sep 22, 2017 3:58 pm

Robert James wrote:Well said!

OT:Cant say about the speed but Studio has many improvements that would be hard to live without. Being able to render 4k DCI file sizes, the effects are awesome in Studio for glow etc, very cool. Being able to import H265.
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PostFri Sep 22, 2017 5:21 pm

4K DCI is not available (from my memory) with FREE version (limited to UHD). With studio : yes.
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Re: Resolve vs Studio: speed differences?

PostFri Sep 22, 2017 7:51 pm

waltervolpatto wrote:The team of developers spend, let's say a month, to improve h264 performances: do you want it for free?


i think, they could in fact save a lot of work, if they would simply allow us, to utilize already existing free cross platform software solutions for file import/export in resolve.
that's exactly what other manufactures of even more prestigious professional video software did, to concentrate their man power on major problems and more important competitive advantages.

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