Major Bug with Selection Follows Playhead

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Major Bug with Selection Follows Playhead

PostSat Dec 16, 2017 2:39 pm

I'm currently editing my first ever project on V14.1 of Resolve. I'm coming from Premiere as I gave up with all the bugs and sluggish performance. So far, so good for Resolve but with one major problem I've come across.

When activating Selection Follows Playhead, playback begins to stutter and drop probably 1/2 of all frames. This is on a simple one track 1080p timeline. No audio (other than from camera), no additional tracks whatsoever, no effects, no transitions. If I disable Selection Follows Playhead, playback returns to buttery smooth.

Anyone come across this or know whether it's been fixed?

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Major Performance Hit when using Selection Follows Playhead

PostThu Jul 05, 2018 12:15 pm

Shame to still see this problem lingering with all beta versions of Resolve 15, as well as the past 14.X release. Any sign of a fix?
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Re: Major Bug with Selection Follows Playhead

PostFri Jul 06, 2018 1:15 am

No one can help as you haven’t provided the basic information about your system, config, OS etc.
Please review the post at the to of the forum “Before you post”
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Re: Major Bug with Selection Follows Playhead

PostFri Jul 06, 2018 3:16 am

On Windows, I've noted a bit of a stutter in the Edit page GUI when "selection follows playhead" is active, but that stutter is not seen in either cinema view or external monitoring. And the indicator is showing real-time playback in all cases.

If your system is marginal, it might be more consequential(?)
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Re: Major Bug with Selection Follows Playhead

PostFri Jul 06, 2018 3:40 am

An alternative may be to try using Shift-V while playing back to select clip/edit under the playhead. While this is a more hands-on approach to selecting the clip being played back, it helps avoid rapid refreshes when playing back over very small cuts.
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Re: Major Bug with Selection Follows Playhead

PostTue Jul 10, 2018 8:54 am

My system is as follows:
1. 8-core 16-thread Xeon Processor 2.4ghz
2. 32GB ram
3. GTX 1070 Graphics Card
4. 2 x SSD (one for system)
5. 8 x 3.5" drives for media storage
6. Windows 10 Pro 64-bit Version 10.0.16299 Build 16299

The performance hit when selecting "Selection follows playhead" is also occurring in all beta versions of Resolve 15.
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Re: Major Bug with Selection Follows Playhead

PostTue Jul 10, 2018 2:22 pm

Do you have only one UI monitor and it’s connected to the 1070?
Can you test with ProRes source clips, like ProRes HQ.
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Re: Major Bug with Selection Follows Playhead

PostTue Jul 10, 2018 6:35 pm

Just one monitor (4K 8 bit). I have no ProRes clips as I don't shoot in that format and not ideal for PC use.
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Re: Major Bug with Selection Follows Playhead

PostTue Jul 10, 2018 6:57 pm

Odd, I'm not seeing it at all now. Not on Prores or h.264 material.

You didn't note the file type you're editing. If it's GOP footage, you might want to transcode to DNxHR or another intra-frame format, if that's not too obvious.
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Re: Major Bug with Selection Follows Playhead

PostTue Jul 10, 2018 8:47 pm

All footage I've thrown at it has the same problem, this mainly consists of 1080p 8/10 bit varieties recorded in MP4 from the Panasonic GH5, with some 4K thrown in for good measure. I shoot in PAL 25 frames a second (sometimes 50p).

Just to reiterate though, all material plays absolutely fine in the timeline (including 4K files) but only with "Selection follows playhead" disabled. As all that function is doing is highlighting the clip under the playhead, it must be a bug as it goes from buttery smooth to unwatchable. However, the Frames Per Second indicator doesn't drop in line with what is actually happening on screen (e.g. it will show it's playing back at 25 frames per second where in reality it could be only 1 or 2 frames per second - certainly no higher than about 12 frames per second).
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Re: Major Bug with Selection Follows Playhead

PostTue Jul 10, 2018 9:03 pm

Tried with DNxHD. A bit smoother until you add a Transform. Then it's back to a very jerky playback. Frame count does not drop.
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Re: Major Bug with Selection Follows Playhead

PostSat Jun 06, 2020 1:51 am

I am having this issue on 16.2.2, in a UHD/23.98 timeline with Alexa Mini LF ProRes 4444 footage. Specifically, the playhead stutters immediately going in and coming out of simple Cross Dissolve transitions in the timeline.

Disabling Selection Follows Playhead "fixes" the issue, although I don't consider that a fix, because I like to work with that option enabled at all times.
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Re: Major Bug with Selection Follows Playhead

PostSat Jun 06, 2020 8:58 am

Mel Matsuoka wrote:I am having this issue on 16.2.2, in a UHD/23.98 timeline with Alexa Mini LF ProRes 4444 footage. Specifically, the playhead stutters immediately going in and coming out of simple Cross Dissolve transitions in the timeline.

I think multiple streams of 4K ProRes 4444 will be taxing on an 8-year-old Mac Pro, even one with a big GPU and lots of RAM. My suggestion would be to do the session in HD and/or use the render cache for the transitions, and that should solve the problem. You can still render out in 4K at the very end of the session.

I bet using a very recent-vintage machine with a very powerful CPU and GPU will solve the problem.
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Re: Major Bug with Selection Follows Playhead

PostSat Jun 06, 2020 8:11 pm

Marc Wielage wrote:
Mel Matsuoka wrote:I am having this issue on 16.2.2, in a UHD/23.98 timeline with Alexa Mini LF ProRes 4444 footage. Specifically, the playhead stutters immediately going in and coming out of simple Cross Dissolve transitions in the timeline.

I think multiple streams of 4K ProRes 4444 will be taxing on an 8-year-old Mac Pro, even one with a big GPU and lots of RAM. My suggestion would be to do the session in HD and/or use the render cache for the transitions, and that should solve the problem. You can still render out in 4K at the very end of the session.

I bet using a very recent-vintage machine with a very powerful CPU and GPU will solve the problem.


The issue occurs with a simple single-track, cuts only sequence, even with 1/4 Proxy Playback and Performance Mode totally enabled, cached User Mode transitions and with NO grade applied to the clips. Turning off "Selection Follows Playhead" alleviates the issue.

This is clearly a bug.
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Re: Major Bug with Selection Follows Playhead

PostSat Jun 06, 2020 11:21 pm

Mel Matsuoka wrote:The issue occurs with a simple single-track, cuts only sequence, even with 1/4 Proxy Playback and Performance Mode totally enabled, cached User Mode transitions and with NO grade applied to the clips. Turning off "Selection Follows Playhead" alleviates the issue.

OK. What happens if Render Cache is turned on?
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Re: Major Bug with Selection Follows Playhead

PostSun Jun 07, 2020 2:26 am

Marc Wielage wrote:
Mel Matsuoka wrote:The issue occurs with a simple single-track, cuts only sequence, even with 1/4 Proxy Playback and Performance Mode totally enabled, cached User Mode transitions and with NO grade applied to the clips. Turning off "Selection Follows Playhead" alleviates the issue.

OK. What happens if Render Cache is turned on?


Render cache has no effect, as already mentioned.
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