Fairlight Plugin Latency

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Fairlight Plugin Latency

PostTue Feb 20, 2018 5:58 pm

I am using some Waves VST plug-ins in Fairlight and am experiencing a lot of Latency. It would appear that DR doesn't have automatic delay compensation?

Is there anyway to tell how much latency is being added to a channel from plug-ins? Is there an easy way to shift a track a specified amount of samples?

Some VST's add huge amounts of delay. Z-Noise for example is around 35000 samples.

Every DAW I can think of has ADC so I am a bit surprised Resolve doesn't (unless I missing something).

How are others dealing with this?

BTW other than this issue I am really impressed with DR.
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Re: Fairlight Plugin Latency

PostTue Feb 20, 2018 6:24 pm

There doesn't appear to be any latency control inside Resolve. The not-yet-released Fairlight card advertises realtime plugin performance, so that may be their solution, I don't know.

I'm dealing with it by not using plugins which cause latency.
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Re: Fairlight Plugin Latency

PostTue Feb 20, 2018 6:33 pm

John Paines wrote:There doesn't appear to be any latency control inside Resolve. The not-yet-released Fairlight card advertises realtime plugin performance, so that may be their solution, I don't know.

I'm dealing with it by not using plugins which cause latency.


That's what I figured. Might just have to export to a DAW for now. Haven't come across a good noise reduction plug-in that doesn't have a fair amount of delay.
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Re: Fairlight Plugin Latency

PostTue Feb 20, 2018 6:53 pm

Yes,

There are plugins that display their latency, for example Izotope RX6 De-Click.
We are far from 0 latency Announced: but we are still at the software vs hardware level. I compared with ADOBE Audition 6: no fear to have => the 64 bit is better than the 32 bit. :)

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Re: Fairlight Plugin Latency

PostTue Feb 20, 2018 7:13 pm

I have been meaning to buy Izotope RX6 but haven't managed to yet.

Waves does have a list of plugin latency but I don't know how accurate it is or if the values are for the mono or stereo versions (I would guess they would be different?).
waves.com/support/tech-specs/plugin-latency
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Re: Fairlight Plugin Latency

PostTue Feb 20, 2018 8:47 pm

Unless the host application supports latency adjustment, I don't think that plugin latency option will achieve anything. Far as I know, all that option does is report back to the host.
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Re: Fairlight Plugin Latency

PostTue Feb 20, 2018 10:06 pm

I've got some plugin chains that can cause several seconds of latency. However everything is in perfect sync in the master. Thus, i think it's something they just don't have implemented everywhere yet.
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Re: Fairlight Plugin Latency

PostTue Feb 20, 2018 11:54 pm

Dan Sherman wrote:I've got some plugin chains that can cause several seconds of latency. However everything is in perfect sync in the master. Thus, i think it's something they just don't have implemented everywhere yet.


Do you mean after it is rendered it is in sync? Will have to experiment with that.
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Re: Fairlight Plugin Latency

PostWed Feb 21, 2018 12:17 am

I'm not sure what he means either, but rendering Rx6 plugins renders the latency, as well as other artifacts. The more plugins, the worse it gets.
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Re: Fairlight Plugin Latency

PostWed Feb 21, 2018 2:16 am

LiefStevens wrote:Do you mean after it is rendered it is in sync? Will have to experiment with that.


Yep!

I've had stuff that will be horribly out of sync on the Fairlight tab, but once rendered it's fine.

My last project looked like this

A1: Mono
  1. ERA-D (Noise reduction & de-reverb)
  2. TDR Nova (EQ & Compressor)
  3. LUFS Meter (Loudness normalize)

A2: Mono
  1. ERA-D (Noise reduction & de-reverb)
  2. TDR Nova (EQ & Compressor)
  3. LUFS Meter (Loudness normalize)
  4. Waves DeBreath Mono
  5. Waves Renaissance DeEesser

M1: Stereo
  1. LUFS Meter (Loudness normalize)
  2. Limiter No6
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